XP SP3 MCE recomends HDD defragment often?

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October 17, 2010 at 07:13:15
Specs: Microsoft Windows XP Professional, 2.793 GHz / 3070 MB
My system WindowsXP Pro MCE 2005 SP3 seems to recomend H.D. defrag every other day or so ? My PC has a 250G.B. H.D. and I do use a utility called CCleaner daily after logging off the internet ! It usally removes around 20-30+ M.B.'s of temp files ,index.dat and other temporary files (log files ,etc.). I analyze the hard drive with the Windows defrag utility ,however I use Defraggler to do the actual defragging. I just want to know if this is normal due to the daily removal of these unneeded files. Thanks to all that reply :-)
NicR

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#1
October 17, 2010 at 07:28:25
Try using Microsoft On-line Safety Scanner http://safety.live.com/site/en-gb/d... it includes a defragger..

Also it may be prudent to go to the Hard drive manufacturers WebSite and Download their Drive Fitness Software.

Last but not least is your PC 48LBA complient ??

http://www.48bitlba.com/


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#2
October 17, 2010 at 07:45:03
I analyze the hard drive with the Windows defrag utility ,however I use Defraggler to do the actual defragging.

There's where your problem lies. Analysing with one utility and doing the job with another is a sure way to end up chasing your own tail.

Each utility will have a different algorithm for determine what needs dragging and how to do it. If you are going to use a separate utility to do the dragging use that and only that. Don't use the Microsoft tool to determine when you should do it as it will always give you misleading results unless you actually use that to do the defragging.

What LBA compliance has got to do with this I have no idea. Different problem altogether.

Stuart


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#3
October 17, 2010 at 09:12:37
If the PC motherboard is not LBA48 complient, it can cause hard drive r/w errors.....

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#4
October 17, 2010 at 09:19:27
I want to thank you whom replied to my questions ,its greatly appreciated ! Iam not sure if this is LBA compliant and Iam not familar with exactly what that is.For more info on my H.D. ,its a Samsung 250G.B., 7200rpm, spinpoint P120, buffer 8M.B.,ATA S.M.A.R.T. compliant, SATA 3.0 ! I will take the advice of using only one utility to analyze and defragment this H.D. The reason I used the Windows utility to analyze is becasue it would tell me wheather or not it recomends if the H.D. should be defragmented. defraggler would simply give you the status of the fragmatation on the drive.I also will follow the link and check out the Microsoft Utility ! Again Thank You All
NicR

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#5
October 17, 2010 at 10:16:06
If the PC motherboard is not LBA48 complient, it can cause hard drive r/w errors..

Sure it can. But that's not a defrag problem. If that was the problem the OP would have known about it long ago. No amount of defragining or lack of it is going to cure hard disk errors if the system is not 48 bit compliant.

As the OP never mentioned disk errors and from the original post, disk size was never mentioned, so introducing 48 bit LBA into the discussion is an irrelevance that just serves to confuse.

Stuart


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#6
October 18, 2010 at 08:05:52
Check the defrag analysis for the list of fragmented files. I'd guess that there are fragmented system files (eg. MFT, page file etc) listed; that's usually why the windows utility complains frequently about needing a defrag. Another cause could be several hundred 'persistent' fragments. Both Defraggler and the windows defrag utility cannot defrag system files and in low space conditions, so grab a free trial version of one of the commercial defrag utilities that can handle both these problems easily. Most of these trial versions run for about a month as fully functional software.

Also, running chkdsk /r before doing anything else might not hurt, just to check up on the state of the file system. It might take a while though (1-2 h), so run it when you don't need to use the computer.


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#7
October 18, 2010 at 12:37:34
Defraggler has it's own analysis so I don't see why you'd need to run the MS analysis before running Defraggler?

As for 48-bit compliance, if your 250GB HDD is showing it's full capacity (approx 233GB), your board/BIOS is compliant. If it wasn't compliant, the max it would show is 128GB.


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#8
October 19, 2010 at 05:48:03
FYI, Actually I did run the check disk utility B/4 checking for the defragmentation of the drive and errors where found and repaired ! I checked both boxes the one to automaticially fix file system errors and scan and attempt recovery of bad sectors . After check disk ran ,I looked at the log file and many errors where found and repaired including bad sectors ! In the H.D. Properties it does show the entire size of disk space 21.9 used and 205G.B.'s free ,I also have a 5.22G.B. partition on drive !
Thanks Again NicR

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