XP not installing properly

December 15, 2011 at 15:01:28
Specs: Windows XP
I am trying to install WinXP on a laptop for my son. Each time the install gets to around 58% I get multiple can not install errors, these are generally .dll files. Needless to say the set up does not finish. Please help, I have tried 3 different win XP discs, all legal and all clean with no scratches.

I get the following line
" The file Setup placed on your hard drive is not a valid Windows XP system image. If you are installing from a CD there may be a problem with the Windows XP CD.

If I take the CD out I get the following message "NTLDR is missing"


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#1
December 15, 2011 at 15:52:13
Start again, make sure you delete the old partition & then Format to NTFS.

D to Delete the selected partition
http://www.blackviper.com/Articles/...


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#2
December 15, 2011 at 16:19:30
Thanks John, I will try that now. SO what does this do that formatting does not?

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#3
December 15, 2011 at 16:24:07
I followed that and still am getting the same issues. I get to about 70% and .dll files are not installing. Suggestions?

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#4
December 15, 2011 at 16:26:06
SATA hard drive?

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#5
December 15, 2011 at 16:50:06
"SO what does this do that formatting does not?"
Removes any hidden partitions.

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#6
December 15, 2011 at 17:07:22
Its a Fujitsu 80gig ATA hard drive.

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#8
December 15, 2011 at 17:40:08
I"m not getting that far into the install John. I am still in the copying of files before start up. This is where the .dll and other files are not copying.

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#9
December 15, 2011 at 17:58:17
"This is where the .dll and other files are not copying"
Have you tried ignore or cancel or skip?

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#10
December 15, 2011 at 18:03:12
Yep and when I ignore, cancel or skip then the install does not complete. I restart and it goes back to NTLDR missing.
WHat is the SATA hard drive question about. DO you know.

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#11
December 15, 2011 at 18:09:27
"WHat is the SATA hard drive question about. DO you know"
Don't know what riider had in mind there.

How to fix: NTLDR is missing, press any key to restart.
http://tinyempire.com/notes/ntldris...
http://www.proposedsolution.com/sol...
Windows may not start and you may receive an "NTLDR is missing" error message if Windows is not up-to-date and there are too many files in the root folder
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/320397
If too many files are copied to the root folder of a boot volume that uses the NTFS file system, you may receive the following error message the next time that you restart the computer:
NTLDR is missing Press CTRL+ALT+DEL to restart.
http://www.proposedsolution.com/sol...


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#12
December 15, 2011 at 19:21:19
Think I should try Win to Flash and see if I can install from an external hard drive?

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#13
December 15, 2011 at 19:24:19
If you are working with older hardware I suggest you open the case and look for bad capacitors. I had the same thing happen with a system a few years ago. The motherboard had leaking and bulging capacitors. Look at the link below to see what to look for.

https://www.google.com/search?q=bad...


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#14
December 15, 2011 at 19:35:45
Checked the motherboard and caps already. I had that issue once before.
It makes it through install up to about 70% copying files then I get the errors.

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#15
December 15, 2011 at 19:45:51
Boot into the BIOS (setup) and check the temperatures in there. Let the computer set in the BIOS screens for a few minutes to see if it overheats.

I missed the fact this is a laptop.

Why are you installing Windows now? Has the laptop ever ran WinXP before?

Are you using WinXP full version CDs or OEM restore disks to install?


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#16
December 15, 2011 at 20:14:02
mahgninnuc93, I assume you looked at the NTLDR links for a clue to your problem.

"Think I should try Win to Flash and see if I can install from an external hard drive?"
It will isolate the possibility of a faulty CD rom, anything is worth a try.


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#17
December 15, 2011 at 20:22:32
It is a laptop. A friend had it and tried to re-install Windows so she could have it fresh for her kid. She couldnt get Win to load again so gave it to me.

I have tried both factory OEM restore discs and full version.


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#18
December 15, 2011 at 20:32:09
Another thought.

"It makes it through install up to about 70% copying files then I get the errors"
Reboot & see if you can get past the problem, try rebooting again & again to see if it will complete.


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#19
December 15, 2011 at 20:32:13
John, I also tried it with a USB cr-rom and it did the same darn thing :(

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#20
December 15, 2011 at 20:37:58
Have tried it at least 6 times and it goes each time around 70% then starts giving the errorrs,

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#21
December 15, 2011 at 21:17:52
What problem was it giving before the decision to format?

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#22
December 15, 2011 at 21:32:54
I dont think any. The format was done in an attempt to clear the computer of all information. I wouldnt have done it LOL.

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#23
December 15, 2011 at 21:54:06
Ok, I still have 3 or 4 moves.

Here is the 1st.

I have used this combination hundreds of times. Once done, try the install again.

To get your HD really clean, use both of these, they are instant ( no waiting ) start with Zap 1st & WIPE OUT immediately after.
Only safe way to clean up the HD, is to do it on it's own, in other words no other HD connected to the cable or motherboard.
Zap when finished, gives messages that make you think it has failed, it has'nt.

1: Make sure no other hard drive is connected.

2: Set the bios to boot from floppy or CD first.

3: Use this W95 boot disk. Unzip the files onto a floppy or boot CD ( for maximum flexibility, use RW ) & reboot.
W95 Boot disk files.zip
http://www.mediafire.com/?db15abt4e...

4: Type > zap 1 & press > Enter.

5: Type > wipeout c: /nq /np & press > Enter

6: Change bios to boot from CD first ( if you hav'nt done so already.

7: Remove boot disk, insert XP ( or whatever operating system you want to install ) CD & reboot, format & partition ( recommend NTFS ) as required.


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#24
December 15, 2011 at 22:13:44
failure to copy files during install of XP is a typical symptom of ram issues.

Download Memtest86. (The CD ISO) and make a bootable CD with it.
Run this and see if it reports any errors. Does the laptop have more than one stick of ram? Sometimes installing runs better with only one stick.

Goin' Fishin' (Some day)


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#25
December 16, 2011 at 07:36:53
Chiming in late:

- are you deleting ALL partitions, then creating at least 2 new partitions?
- doing a FULL format rather than quick?
- have you double checked the BIOS settings to make sure everything is correct?
- other than that, run memtest as was suggested to see if there are any memory errors. XP will not install if the RAM is bad.


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#26
December 16, 2011 at 16:44:30
Memtest figured it out. Gotta go get some memory. Thanks for all the assists folks.

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#27
December 16, 2011 at 17:20:15
"Memtest figured it out. Gotta go get some memory"
Try cleaning the contacts first.

http://johnsonyip.com/wordpress/201...
http://www.simmtester.com/PAGE/news...
http://www.dewassoc.com/performance...
http://www.computermemoryupgrade.ne...
Installing Laptop Memory
http://www.computermemoryupgrade.ne...


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#28
December 16, 2011 at 17:30:15
Snap each RAM stick in and out 4 or 5 times to burnish the contacts.

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#29
January 2, 2012 at 18:21:01
Well, I thought it was the memory. Ran the memtest, all failed.
Went and bought new memory, put it in and now I literally get nothing at all.
Power light comes on, stays lit for a second then shuts off. No fans, no screen, no boot menu arrgh....I did take the bootable usb out before I put the memory back in could that have somethign to do with this turn of events.

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#30
January 2, 2012 at 19:40:06
Did you unplug the AC power and remove the battery before messing with the memory?

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#31
January 2, 2012 at 20:07:45
yes I did both. O also took the laptop apart and it seems the CPU has come lose. Reseated it and just put it all back together. Hopeing that was the issue. WIll advise in a few.

Edit...didnt work. I have the light on the front showing its taking a charge. When I turn it on I get the power light for about 10 seconds and then it shuts off. Doesnt even seem to be booting at all. How can I get into the BIOS if I cant get it to boot? Suggestions?


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#32
January 2, 2012 at 21:03:00
See if you get a clue here.

http://www.laptoprepair101.com/lapt...


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#33
January 2, 2012 at 22:22:25
NOthing there JOhn....dangit hope I can get this figured out

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#35
January 2, 2012 at 22:56:02
Did you retry your old memory, only using 1 stick?

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#36
January 3, 2012 at 12:28:35
It only has one slot John. I think its time to send it to the dead laptop heaven :(

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