Solved xp microphone test not enough memory None of my 3 mics work

January 26, 2012 at 08:02:58
Specs: Windows XP
My mikes have stopped working. I use sound max and have tried just about everything I know, any suggestions very welcome. Roy

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February 8, 2012 at 06:12:10
"Would this account for mics not working in any other software, video editors etc."

Probably not.
In those cases, it's probable that something else is wrong.

You may need to reinstall your sound software, properly, as I detailed above.

You haven't told us which mic port the mics don't work in, if that applies, although if they work in one (the back port built into the mboard) but not the other (the front case port) , that would apply to all software for the mics.

You haven't told us whether you have more than one sound adapter.

You probably don't need to have less ram installed if you don't use Window's Sound Recorder.

However, as I pointed out above, your system will probably run better if you have 3 gb or less ram installed.

See in my post above...

"A side note...

"Total Physical Memory 4,096.00 MB"

All versions of XP are 32 bit except XP Pro 64 bit.

If you have a 32 bit version of XP, or any 32 bit Windows operating system, you are probably better off installing a max 3 gb of ram rather than 4 gb. "

etc.

In my case I have 4 ram slots and three 1 gb ram modules installed.
My mboard is in the same Asus M3A series as the example system I mentioned at the link.



#1
January 26, 2012 at 11:26:32
Re-install audio driver from your PC manufacturer's website, also install more system RAM.

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#2
January 27, 2012 at 12:18:52
thanks Pip

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#3
January 27, 2012 at 12:54:15
"xp microphone test not enough memory ..."

Are you getting an error message ?
If yes, when you do what, and what is the exact message ?

You don't normally get messages about not enough memory unless
- you have a minimal amount of ram, e.g. less than the minimum recommended for the op system XP just barely works as it's supposed to with 256mb of ram
- you have too many programs running or minimized at the time
- your partition Windows itself was installed on - usually that's C - is too full. What's the size of your C partition, and how much free space is left on it ?
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Is it only the mics that aren't working ?
If yes, if you have a desktop computer, are you plugging them into the same port
they were plugged into before ?
If you're plugging them into a case port, have you loaded default bios settings since the mics last worked there ?
I have an Asus mboard - apparently this is common for Asus mboards - that has a setting in the bios for the front sound ports connection that is set to HD sound by default. If your case has support for AC 97 sound ports, not HD sound ports, the Mic and Line Out (headphones) jacks on the front of the case won't work unless you change the setting in the bios to AC 97 sound. The Mic port on the back of the case will work with them fine, unless you have changed default settings in the sound software that disables it.

Have you been fiddling with the jumper settings or wiring connection from the case on the mboard header for the front sound ports since the mics last worked ?
If yes, consult your mboard manual to make sure you set / connected those right.

Sound drivers don't spontaneously stop working, but sometimes software conflicts or installing certain devices can cause them to stop producing sound.

If ONLY the mics don't work there's probably nothing wrong with your sound drivers.

If NONE of your sound works.....
What has gone on since the sound last worked properly ?
Have you had this problem only after
- installing a certain program
- installing a device such as a card in a mboard slot ?
E,g, installing the PCI Lava parallel port card caused a resource conflict that caused my SB16 card's software to stop producing sound, despite the fact nothing in Windows (98SE) indicated what was wrong .


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#4
January 28, 2012 at 10:07:34
I was getting the message not enough memory when I tried mic in XP sound recorder. After making some changes in SoundMax I am no longer getting the message but it is still not recording. I tested the mic in SoundMax and the test went ok and all seemed ok but the mic still doesn't work in sound recorder or any other software like video editor etc.
I have 80gb free space on C: and 4gb ram
Its only the mic I'm having trouble with.

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#5
January 28, 2012 at 17:02:23
Tell us the make and model of your brand name system, or if you have a generic desktop system, the make and model of the mboard.

The specific model of a brand name system is often shown on a label on the outside of the case somewhere, or it can often be determined by going to the brand name's web site and loading a program they have available, if Windows is still working, on the subject computer.

If it's a Dell computer...
Go here for how to find the Service tag "number":
http://support.dell.com/support/top...

Tell us what it is.

If it's a HP or Compaq computer.....
Go here:
http://partsurfer.hp.com/search.aspx
Scroll down a bit.
Look for the similar label on the outside of your computer.
Quote the specific model number - that's at the end of the first line.
Quote the Product number - that's on the third line.

If it's a Lenovo computer
Find your specific Product number and tell us what it is:

Finding my product number
http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/Fin...

The model, sometimes the make, of a mboard in a generic desktop system is usually printed on the mboard's surface in obvious larger characters, often between the slots.
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Make sure that your volume level for the mic is not set too low.
RIGHT click on the speaker icon in your taskbar, select Open Volume Control.

NOTE that the mic volume control is supposed to be muted when you are not using a program that can use a mic in XP and below (back to Win 95) - it's automatically un-muted there when you use a program that can use a mic.

If you don't see the Mic volume control, click on Properties there top left of the mixer window, you can select to show the Mic volume control.

Some mics may require that you find a setting that boosts the input signal.
E.g. in my case there is an Advanced button below the Mic volume control - when I click on that I can select Microphone boost, which is disabled by default.
In other cases, if you click on Properties there top left of the mixer window, you can select Mic boost.
......

"I was getting the message not enough memory when I tried mic in XP sound recorder. After making some changes in SoundMax I am no longer getting the message. I tested the mic in SoundMax and the test went ok and all seemed ok but the mic still doesn't work in sound recorder or any other software like video editor etc."

That sounds like a software problem. If a mic works in the Soundmax software it should work fine everywhere else.
Are you SURE it's working in the Soundmax software ?
In Sound Recorder you should see a green ? bar graph, at least a bit of IT, that varies with what you're recording.

Have you re-installed the Soundmax software since the mics last worked properly ?

If you have, it's VERY COMMON for people to NOT install their sound software properly, and in that case it's likely at least some of it's features will not work properly.
......

Do you have two sound adapters on this computer ?
E.g. onboard sound and a sound card in a slot .

Does your computer have both a front mic port in the case and a mic port on the back built into the mboard (or that plus a mic port in a sound card in a slot) ?

If yes, if you're plugging the mics into a case front port, try them in a back port.

If you have only one Mic port on the back of the computer, if the mics work in that port but not in the front case port, either
- you do not have the front port wired up or jumpered / not jumpered properly on the mboard header for that
- if there's nothing wrong with that, it may be that there is a bios settings you must change

Were you using one pair of speakers previously when the mics worked but now you're using more than a pair ?
In some cases when you connect more than one pair of speakers you may lose the use of the mic port as a mic port.
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#6
January 30, 2012 at 04:18:02
All the settings seem to be correct, I have two mic inputs one at the rear and one on the front, also I have a USB headset none of them work in software even though I see the the green bars moving up about halfway in recording and playback and hear my voice during mic test. I am getting the not enough memory message again in voice recorder.
My audio out (speaker) is via my HiFi system.
I haven't re-installed the sound max software since it last worked. Do you think it is worth re-installing the audio drivers?

Mother board ASUS P5B

OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 Build 2600
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Manufacturer System manufacturer
System Model System Product Name
System Type X86-based PC
Processor x86 Family 6 Model 15 Stepping 11 GenuineIntel ~2401 Mhz
BIOS Version/Date American Megatrends Inc. 1604, 13/07/2007
SMBIOS Version 2.4
Windows Directory C:\WINDOWS
System Directory C:\WINDOWS\system32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume1
Locale United Kingdom
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "5.1.2600.5512 (xpsp.080413-2111)"
User Name USER-A925B87CF6\User
Time Zone GMT Standard Time
Total Physical Memory 4,096.00 MB
Available Physical Memory 1.93 GB
Total Virtual Memory 2.00 GB
Available Virtual Memory 1.96 GB
Page File Space 4.78 GB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys


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#7
January 30, 2012 at 14:02:29
"I haven't re-installed the sound max software since it last worked. Do you think it is worth re-installing the audio drivers?"

If you mean since the mics last worked, then there's probably nothing wrong with the audio software installation itself, and No, you shouldn't have to re-install it

I'm assuming, of course, that you're SURE the mics worked fine previously with the same Soundmax software installation.

If you're NOT sure, re-install the software - see the heading BELOW near the end of this post
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Ask yourself - what has changed since the mics last worked ?

You say the sound output is to your HiFi system - was it to something else before ?

By the way, is the "HiFi" plain stereo, or is it multichannel ?

Have you installed
- a software program
- or a card in a mboard slot (e.g. my example, a LAVA PCI parallel port card)
and it was only after that the mics output no sound since the mics last worked ?

"Do you have two sound adapters on this computer ?
E.g. onboard sound and a card in a slot "

If YES, Windows supports you having more than one sound adapter, but it can only use one of them at a time.
If the other sound adapter is the one Windows is using, then when you use the Soundmax software in Control Panel to test the mics,
""....also I have a USB headset none of them work in software even though I see the the green bars moving up about halfway in recording and playback and hear my voice during mic test."
....that will probably work despite the fact Windows is using the other sound adapter.

The sound adapter you have installed the software for LAST becomes the default sound adapter.
You can change which sound adapter Windows uses in Control Panel - Sounds and Audio Devices - Audio tab
...........

"All the settings seem to be correct, I have two mic inputs one at the rear and one on the front,..."

A bios setting of this mboard or Soundmax settings or wiring connections can be wrong for the front ports in the case. The back mic port should always work.

See the section below starting
"If your front mic and or Line out (headphones) port doesn't work......"
if you need to.

Have you tried the mics in the pink port on the back ?
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" I am getting the not enough memory message again in voice recorder."

The most usual possible causes of that I outlined in response 3.
You said you have 80 gb free space on the C partition but you didn't say what the total size of the C partirtion is. If you have a really large C partition 80 gb may not be enough. There should be a minimum of about 10% free space on the C partition.

If you DO have more than enough free space on C, and if the other causes I mentioned don't apply, you probably have some oddball software problem.
....

A side note...

"Total Physical Memory 4,096.00 MB"

All versions of XP are 32 bit except XP Pro 64 bit.

If you have a 32 bit version of XP, or any 32 bit Windows operating system, you are probably better off installing a max 3 gb of ram rather than 4 gb.

The 4gb virtual memory address limit for 32 bit operating systems.
An example of 3gb working better than 4gb in a 32 bit operating system.

See Response 6:
http://www.computing.net/answers/ha...
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A possibilty - the mboard may have one or more failing electrolytic capacitors

Going by the dates of other manuals on the Asus web site, this model probably first came out in 2006 and your mboard may be that old.
Or, if it still has it's original specific bios version,
"BIOS Version/Date American Megatrends Inc. 1604, 13/07/2007"
it was made circa July 2007.

Older mboards sometimes have this problem....

Some mboards develop this problem - electrolytic capacitors were installed on them that were not properly made, and they fail eventually - the mboard manufacturer didn't know they were improperly made at the time the mboard was made.

Open up your case and examine the mboard to see if you have bad capacitors, and/or other findable signs of mboard damage .

What to look for, mboard symptoms, example pictures:
http://www.badcaps.net/pages.php?vid=5
Home page that site
- what the problem is caused by
- he says there are STILL bad capacitors on more recent mboards.
http://www.badcaps.net/

Pictures of blown capacitors, other components, power supplies, fried Athlon cpus, etc.:
http://www.halfdone.com/Personal/Jo...
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If your front mic and or Line out (headphones) port doesn't work......

Asus P5B (home support page)
http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/In...

P5B User Manual for English Edition (E2620)
updated 2007.06.12
http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb...

page 30 (46 of 140)

(or click on the Search icon - binoculars - in the top bar of Adobe Reader and search for: rear panel connectors - look at the third "hit". )

1/8" audio ports ports 4 to 9

If you are connecting the mics here do you have it in the pink port 8 ?

If you are using only a stereo output to go to your HiFi system, it must be in the lime green port 7

If you are connecting more than output to go to the HiFi system (it's not just stereo), then you must plug the other stereo connectors into the right ports
AND
in Control Panel - your Soundmax icon - it's probably set to just stereo (2 speaker) output by default - you must find the setting that changes that to 4 or 6 or 8 speakers, save settings
....

Page 38 (54 of 140)

Bottom of the displayed page

2-30 Chapter 2: Hardware information

(or click on the Search icon - binoculars - in the top bar of Adobe Reader and search for: AC 97 - look at the first "hit". )

Front Panel Audio connector

READ the info there - there are two different ways of connecting audio wires from the case to that header. If your case has HD audio support wiring, the default setting in the bios must be changed.
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BELOW

Un-install / install the sound siftware properly !

NOTE that sometimes the resident module(s) of anti-malware programs - a part that runs all the time scanning for suspicious activity - will interfere with the proper installation of third party software, the software will not install properly, and you may get no indication of that at all while installing the software.
To avoid that possibilty, you should always DISABLE the resident module(s) of anti-malware programs, BEFORE you install third party software (software other than most Microsoft Updates, etc., that did not come with Windows ), especially when it's a major or complicated software package.
E.g. if you are using the free or paid version of AVG, you should disable the Resident Shield in AVG's 's settings in Windows (in AVG 2012 that's done under the title AntiVirus). In Norton (Symantec) products, there may be several things you need to disable, or set so they don't load for a specific short amount of time.
If you don't know how to do that, tell us which anti-malware software you are using.
When you are sure the software has installed correctly, re-enable the resident module(s).
.......

If you're re-installing "drivers" for a device, un-install any existing "drivers" BEFORE you install the software for the device again, if it's listed in Add or Remove Programs.

In this case, there should be a listing for the SoundMax software there.
....

Sound and video "drivers" always have associated files that must be installed properly along with the actual drivers. If you install only the actual drivers, it's likely the device, and/or the other software associated with it, will NOT work properly.

Unless the instructions for installing a device tell you otherwise.......
You DO NOT install drivers for a device while booting into Windows, if the software for the device has not been installed yet - when Windows detects a generic device or New Hardware while booting, you allow it to search for drivers, it doesn't find any, and it wants you to show it the location of the drivers - CANCEL that, continue on to the desktop, and install the software for the device using the proper installation from a CD or the proper installation file that you downloaded from the web.

If you DID install drivers that way,

(The following also applies if you want to re-install the sound software)

- go to Control Panel - Classic View - Add/Remove Programs and Un-install the software you installed, reboot, DO NOT install drivers while booting.

- go to Device Manager.
(e.g. RIGHT click on My Computer - Properties - Hardware - Device Manager)
If the sound adapter is still listed, RIGHT click on it and Un-install it.
If that was there, and you un-installed it, Reboot at least once.
DO NOT install drivers while booting.

Install the sound software properly by running the proper download you got from the web, or if you have the CD that came with the sound card, or the CD that came with the computer that has the Drivers on it, run the sound software installation from the installation program on that.

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#8
January 31, 2012 at 03:39:59
Wow, thanks for all that, I will work my way through it and see what happens.
Thanks again for going to all that trouble.

Roy


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#9
February 6, 2012 at 09:02:02
I think your problem is not your mics at all. It's that there is a known issue with Sound Recorder and 4Gb ram on XP. It gives the message out of memory. It's not you. It's Microsoft.

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#10
February 6, 2012 at 12:22:17
I read sunrader's info, then searched.

It IS a known issue with Window's Sound Recorder, but it happens when you have more than 2 gb of ram, not necessarily 4 gb.

I have 3 gb on my system in (XP) MCE 2005, and when I try using it with a mic I see I get the same error, after the file has been recorded.

Microsoft article:
You receive a "Not enough memory available to complete this operation" error message when you try to record a .wav file by using Sound Recorder
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/284...


Wiki article:
Sound Recorder (Windows)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_...

Excerpt:

In editions before Windows Vista, on computers with more than 2 GB of RAM, after recording (but not when playing), Sound Recorder will return an error message indicating that there is not enough memory. This is a design flaw of older versions of Sound Recorder and officially cannot be resolved except by reducing the amount of available physical memory.[4] There does, however, exist an unofficial patch that resolves this problem.[5]
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That "patch" is called a Microsoft "Hotfix" (hot fix ?) in another article, but I've found niether so far.

Use something such as a free third party sound recorder program you can download from the web instead, such as Audacity:
http://audacity.sourceforge.net/



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#11
February 8, 2012 at 03:32:39
Thanks sunrader and tubesandwites, I will try removing 2gb of memory. Would this account for mics not working in any other software, video editors etc.

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#12
February 8, 2012 at 06:12:10
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"Would this account for mics not working in any other software, video editors etc."

Probably not.
In those cases, it's probable that something else is wrong.

You may need to reinstall your sound software, properly, as I detailed above.

You haven't told us which mic port the mics don't work in, if that applies, although if they work in one (the back port built into the mboard) but not the other (the front case port) , that would apply to all software for the mics.

You haven't told us whether you have more than one sound adapter.

You probably don't need to have less ram installed if you don't use Window's Sound Recorder.

However, as I pointed out above, your system will probably run better if you have 3 gb or less ram installed.

See in my post above...

"A side note...

"Total Physical Memory 4,096.00 MB"

All versions of XP are 32 bit except XP Pro 64 bit.

If you have a 32 bit version of XP, or any 32 bit Windows operating system, you are probably better off installing a max 3 gb of ram rather than 4 gb. "

etc.

In my case I have 4 ram slots and three 1 gb ram modules installed.
My mboard is in the same Asus M3A series as the example system I mentioned at the link.


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#13
February 14, 2012 at 07:33:04
I have had partial success. After going through all the above help I checked the motherboard for any obvious faults and removed the front panel connections and refitted in case there was a bad connection, I removed 2gb of RAM and reinstalled the soundmax audio drivers. I now have one headset working plugged into the rear jack sockets.

The front panel and USB mic still doesn't work but I am happy I can use the working mic in video editors.

Thanks again for all the help.....Roy


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#14
February 14, 2012 at 14:30:12
As I said above, for the front mic port (and line out - headphones port) on the front of the case
- the connections to the case from the header on the mboard must be correct - the Asus mboard manual shows two types of the connections, for AC 97 or HD (High Definition) or some other labeled sound, which is the same thing - that must match the type of audio wiring the case has, which is one or the other type - e.g. all my cases are wired up for AC 97 sound.
- according to your models manual the bios of your mboard is set to AC97 sound by default. If your case has HD sound wiring, you must change that setting to HD sound.
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Regarding your USB sound adapter.....

As I said above,
- Windows supports you installing more than one sound adapter and the specific drivers for it, but it can only use one sound adapter at a time.
- The sound adapter you installed the drivers / software for last becomes the default sound adapter Windows uses by default.
- if you have more than one sound adapter, if you want to change which one Windows uses, you can change that in Control Panel - Classic view - Sounds and Audio Devices - Audio tab.
....

Your USB device may not be detected properly or may be detected but not work properly when it's plugged into certain USB ports.
Troubleshooting USB device problems
See Response 1:
http://www.computing.net/answers/ha...
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You MUST install the "drivers" for the device according to the installation directions
Sound and video and many other "drivers" are the actual drivers AND associated software MUST be installed properly along with the actual drivers.

If you install only the actual drivers, it's likely the device, and/or the other software associated with it, will NOT work properly.

Unless the instructions for installing a device tell you otherwise....
(this ALWAYS applies to video and sound adapters )

You DO NOT install drivers for a device while booting into Windows, if the software for the device has not been installed yet - when Windows detects a generic device or New Hardware while booting, you allow it to search for drivers, it doesn't find any, and it wants you to show it the location of the drivers - CANCEL that, continue on to the desktop, and install the software for the device using the proper installation from a CD or the proper installation file that you downloaded from the web.
The same applies no matter when Windows finds New Hardware !

If you DID install drivers that way,

(The following also applies if you want to un-install previous software, or re-install the same software)

for sound adapter drivers...

- go to Control Panel - Classic View - Add/Remove Programs and Un-install the software you installed, reboot, DO NOT install drivers while booting.

- go to Device Manager.
(e.g. RIGHT click on My Computer - Properties - Hardware - Device Manager)
If the sound adapter is still listed, RIGHT click on it and Un-install it.
If that was there, and you un-installed it, Reboot at least once.
DO NOT install drivers while booting.

Install the sound software properly by running the proper download you got from the web, or if you have the CD that came with the sound card, or if you have the CD that came with the brand name computer that has the Drivers on it, run the sound software installation from the installation program on that.




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