xp installation problem

Acer / Aspire 9302
March 14, 2010 at 03:07:48
Specs: Windows XP
hi, i have an acer aspire 9302 and i have the following problem. i placed a new kingston v+ ssd hard disk and i am trying to install windows xp. when i enter the bios it detects the hard disk but on windows setup when i am called to select a partition to install windows the ssd is not there. it simply does not detect it. ? can someone please help ?

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March 14, 2010 at 04:03:07
As with a SATA drive yoiu will likely need to provide the drivers for the SSD..

I haven't used any of these devices (yet) but did a trawl in google/yahoo etc... using the search term/string:

how to install an ssd drive

(both with and without the word drive appended).

There are numerous guides etc. out there about that bit... and to install the OS (XP in this case) I used the string:

how to install XP to an ssd drive

and the following, amongst many hits, came up... Suggest you repeat my trawls (both strings..?) and also read the one I have posted below?


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March 14, 2010 at 06:53:33
hi and thanks for the reply,
the problem seems to be more weird then stated before. after placing the old hard disk back i connected the ssd via usb and installed windows. then replaced the hard disk with the ssd back when i start the computer i get a blue screen with a 0x00000007F error that something is wrong... but if i connect it to the usb port it works !!!

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March 14, 2010 at 08:30:56
Your question was answered correctly in response #1. SSD drives use the SATA interface. XP does not natively support SATA so to get it recognized, you have a few options:

1. check the BIOS to see if there's an "IDE compatibility mode" setting & enable it

2. load the SATA driver from a floppy at the very beginning of the XP installation

3. create a new XP CD with the SATA drivers slipstreamed into it

4. install an OS natively supports SATA (Windows Vista or Winodws 7)

How much did you pay for the SSD? Like $200 for 64GB? Why?? The drive costs more than your system is worth.

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March 14, 2010 at 10:13:14
thanks again , i'll try slipstreaming the sata drivers in my xp installation disc.
but again the weird part is since the old hard disc is sata too and since windows xp installs smoothly on it shouldn't they install the on the ssd too without the need of drivers ?

i paid double the price for 128 gb . i needed a hard disc to use on my home server and since it only servers a couple of web sites i decided to use the laptops disc in the server and place the new ssd in the laptop.

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March 14, 2010 at 16:34:26
hi again, i did slipstreamed the sata drivers and the sata raid for win xp using nlite and this time windows setup detects the ssd hard disc but it also states that disc is not available !!!
does anyone have a clue what is the problem now ???

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March 15, 2010 at 02:05:24
mmm... Have you browsed the info at the link I posted; and likewise done a trawl using the strings suggested? I doubt you are the only one to have this experience, and while many here may have the answer... often useful to browse "out there" as well; at least while awaiting help from here and other similar forums? And when you do get it to work - post back how etc. - regardless of where the "ah-ah" (the inspiration/answer) moment came from.

Incidentally is the ssd showing in the bios - presumably as a "drive"? If not... then investigate why - again the link I posted/suggest etc.

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March 15, 2010 at 04:51:27
thanks again for replying,
yes i searched google using most of the correct strings,
the ssd is detected by the bios
there is no IDE compatibility mode in the bios
i cant install win 7 or vista beacause of applications that need xp.
the closest i got is to the point where the win xp setup detects the drive but says its not available !!!
i read all the relavent tutorials , even tried to find newest drivers for my acers aspires 9302 motherboard, which is
NVIDIA GeForce Go 6100 chipset with NVIDIA nForce Go 430. mine is
WinXP IDE SataRAID Driver (v6.50) "WHQL"
WinXP IDE SataIDE Driver (v6.50) "WHQL"
no luck with finding newest, only exe format, but nlite wants inf files in order to slipstream the drivers.
does anyone have an idea please ?

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March 15, 2010 at 08:45:06
"...no luck with finding newest, only exe format, but nlite wants inf files in order to slipstream the drivers.,,"

That sounds a little like a file that you have to run/expand to acquire/install the .inf file?

Have you tried to run/expand that file (via another system) and send it to a usb-stick; after-which use that "stick" as source to slipstream into XP setup disk?

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March 16, 2010 at 02:22:07
thnaks again,
the problem is if i run the exe file on another machine it will probably mess the existing driver causing more harm then good. i am starting to think maybe the fault is on the ssd, because i have reached the point on win xp setup where i have to choose a hard disc to install. the disc is detected but according to the message not available. maybe i must have it replaced. thanks for your time

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March 16, 2010 at 06:06:12
mmm You may be correct re' running the exe. file on another system; but I'm not entirely sure about that... I am surmising it's a self-executing zipped file; and if so then it will open itself - but likely go no further.... It will display its contents (via winzip) and allow to check it out etc. to preferred location. If I'm correct you can then copy the contents (from the location) to a sub stick etc.?

If you have winzip loaded/working "somewhere" then use it open and thus inspect that .exe file?

Not having been in your situation I am of course theorising... Possibly others will concur with the above nonetheless?

Let us know if (when) you do manage to resolve the issue with the ssd device...?

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March 16, 2010 at 06:18:58

seems to address your current query; and in some mesure support my theory...?

Use winzip or similar to view the .exe file contents..; then extract only the .inf file etc...?

And a trawl or three via google/yahoo does suggest it will work; both with Windows and Linux systems... Just open/view .exe file in winzip etc; extract .inf file to a known location (a temp-folder perhaps); copy it to usb stick and use that stick?

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March 16, 2010 at 08:15:50
your theory was correct, it really helped, thanks , but....
i slipstreamed the new drivers and win xp setup detected the ssd and installed the os. but guess what...when it restarted to finish installation i got an 0x000000ED UNMOUNTABLE_BOOT_VOLUME" !!! and the drive wasnt read. after searching in google tried to enter recovery console to type chkdsk for errors. but it cant regognize the drive.
i tried installing windows from the beginning again but this time
a) it detects wrong size 209gb (its 128 gb)
2) it gives the following message : Setup cannot access this disk

trust me i spent lots of time in google searching for a solution. i always come up with something like http://www.computing.net/answers/wi...

what is going on ? should i trow the laptop and the ssd off the window and go for a walk ?

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March 16, 2010 at 09:48:44
mmm... what service pack is the XP disk; and what size shows up in bios for the ssd?

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March 16, 2010 at 12:21:56
hi again,
in the bios its under IDE1 Model Name : Kingston ...., IDE HDD : kingston doesnt mention anywhere the size of it, also dont know why it is listed as ide, but the old hard disc was sata type too.
the service pack is 2 .
the only place where the size is listed too is during windows setup where i had too pick the disk. the fisrt time was listed as 128 gb but after the error it is listed as 209 gr and if i try to boot from the disc i get "a disk read error occurred, press ... to restart"

thanks for your time

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March 16, 2010 at 18:00:10
one more thing. i have tried with service pack 3 as well.
also i have tried with windows xp home edition, service pack 2 and 3 too, with no luck. both os's are genuine.

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March 16, 2010 at 18:14:08
mm I have to admit I am at loss at this point. Not having any direct/personal experience with the ssd kit, and thus never installed and configured one... I have run out of ideas...

I think we do use similar items in some of specialist kit at work; I will have a chat with the appropriate bodies there to see what they may suggest; and get back to you...

One thought; when you first select the drive and thus determine how large a partition to install XP into... Have you tried making it only 128Gig (even less - say 80-100Gig)? The balance would later be configured as Extended space and used for data etc? 80-100Gig is usually more than enuff for an XP + apps + utils?

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March 16, 2010 at 18:32:22
hi, and thanks for the reply
i have tried giving all the space to windows, 128 gb, and one time less, 24 gb but the result was the same. when the system restarted to complete installation the error appeared. once it was uncountable disk, the other time was 0x0000008e . when i go into the recovery console and type chkdsk two things happen
1) the drive is not detected at all
2) the drive is detected but not available

for the past 4 days i tried all possible variations of sata drivers, win xp pro and home editions with all available service packs and had all possible problematic outcomes !!!
event cloning the installation from the original disk failed because the cloning software didn't recognize the ssd !!!

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March 17, 2010 at 02:36:10
mmm - sumat up in the state of wherever for sure...

If per chance you were able to connect this ssd via a usb adapter to another working installatio - and one that also has SATA drivers installed... would it show up there and also show as correct size?

If it was connected thus and it didn't show etc... then I'd be inclined to suspect the ssd device....

Incidentally.. have you read the following? It does state very clearly that the software on the cd that comes with the ssd is critical... Might be worth to read thru and see if it offers a viable solution?



the second one includes a reference to:



this one has a few caveats included...



and "finally" (as per late Knonkite) have you had a chat or similar with Knigston support teams?

http://www.kingston.com/support/ssd... is the faq section; but not a lot there - other than how to instal it etc... But maybe worth a look-see?

I dun a trawl to find the above; likely you have dun so too? If not then maybe do so and check out a few other hits too? I used the string:

kingston ssd v not detected

I also noted on a couple of general hits that this problem is not entirely unknown; and sometimes not resolved. Some folks have given up - kit wasn't really up to it, or found/used another manufacturer...?

It would be nice (useful even) to now the final outcome of this one; if only to save others (me included) grief, phrustrayshuns and like in the future...

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March 17, 2010 at 04:16:09
hi and thanks for the links,
i had visited most of them but they dont seem to work,
acronis wont recognize it no matter what i do. tried nothe methods, blank ssd or installing windows to it through usb and them placing it in the laptops bay. didnt work too...
i also read very carefully the guide that came along with acronis clone software and did exactly what is suggested.
also i contacted kingston support 2 days ago, still no answer.
from what i know the ssd is 2 generation and should not have such problems...
finally connecting the ssd to my desktop it is detected correctly and the size is right too. transferring files works too with no problems.
if i find a solution to this i'll i'll quit everything and go for holidays...

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March 17, 2010 at 06:13:10
It may well be a motherboard issue; which is something that is mentioned briefly - almost as throw away - in one of the links I posted and which you have already browsed...

If so then I have a feeling it will be no go with the system in question?

Enjoy holiday... Who knows you may have an A-ha! moment as per Archimedese and find the solution..

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March 17, 2010 at 18:04:53
i'd like to thank you for the time you spend helping me.
i'll pack it and send it back, such limitations are not mentioned at the products web site. as far as i know it is supposed to work like a normal sata drive provided that the correct drivers exist.

as long as the A-ha moment is conserned at least i am at the correct place of the earth to have it, where Archimedese was.


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