Windows xp media center view TV signals?

August 1, 2012 at 05:51:41
Specs: windows media center xp, 1.6ghz/2gb
Hi someone has given me this HP Pavilion 7525a http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsuppor...
and i did some googling. Lots of sites mention TV. Now is this machine capable or do they want me to put in a tuner? I am confused as TV tuners can be installed in almost anything and have their own software. What makes MCE so special?

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#1
August 1, 2012 at 06:04:01
You forgot the "S" (for Slimline) in the model number. Does it have a TV tuner or not?

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#2
August 1, 2012 at 06:37:25
Oh yes it is a slimline i guess...i just googled the model number on the case . Yeah mine is 2008 edition of it i think...i dunno where i saw that,,maybe the bios? or when i was booted into it. Not booted right now so can't check as i have to keep plugging it into t into the monitor keyboard and mouse i am using. I didn't look for a tuner inside as i was adding ram when i did have it open and that issue had not been realised yet. I was just googling as i said and then i was made aware of it. I have never come across windows media center before. If there was a tuner would it be a pci device? Its just that one video on youtube showed that i could plug this directly into the computer via the s-video and vga. will try and find that video again if i can. can't remember if it referred to windows xp or not

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#3
August 1, 2012 at 09:00:47
Now is this machine capable?
That page's port section doesn't explicitly mention coax-in, so I'm going with no. You'll need to purchase and install a TV tuner.

What makes MCE so special?
Two things are required to use your PC as a DVR/PVR. You need a viable TV tuner, and you need the software to control the tuner. WinXP MCE has the software built into the OS.

If there was a tuner would it be a pci device?
There are internal PCI TV tuners, but I don't think PCI has enough bandwidth for HD video. That's fine, because I don't think your PC has the power to handle HD anyways. There are also external TV tuners that use USB.

Its just that one video on youtube showed that i could plug this directly into the computer via the s-video and vga.
Those are video-out, not video-in.

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#4
August 3, 2012 at 01:14:34
Coax-in is cable isn't it? I read that the s-video is the video out...somewhere i read it..been days now so don't remember as i read too many sites.

Ok i understand what you mean about the software built in. I remember having an analogue tuner one time with another machine and the software that came with it was crap. I used two other pieces of software and i think one was something that came with the old version of windows...both the other softwares worked better than the original software.

Oh there is plenty of pci hd tuners out there that are very good like hauppage but that is way beyond my budget!

I actually use a usb dongle hd tuner with another pc i have but its not the greatest at picking up all the channels. I do live in an area that has reception issues with tv, radio, phones.

Does MCE also have internet tv as well? Not that that computer makes it special for that as i guess any pc does that. My primary machine has Linux on it but i never seem to really have time to explore internet tv.

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#5
August 3, 2012 at 03:40:14
Internet TV is mostly just web / Flash based. While not native, it is ubiquitous enough that software isn't an issue unless you're using a tablet / smart phone. Theoretically you wouldn't even have to leave Linux to enjoy Internet TV, and no special hardware is required.

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#6
August 3, 2012 at 09:43:21
Yes i get what you mean. Ah well one day i will have time for it. I don't have very good concentration to sit and watch an entire show. For me a computer is doing very little of social media, a lot of video and audio editing and keeping in contact with family plus real friends lol. On my smart phone i don't view anything as the battery runs out too quick. Just for facebook and keeping in contact only..oh and google maps :0)

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#7
August 4, 2012 at 07:55:53
I have a Dell XPS400 2.8Ghz Dual Core 3 G.B. DDR2 RAM O/S WindowsXP Pro MCE 2005 ! I installed an ATI TV Wonder PCI TV tuner card. The ATI TV Wonder came with its own software ,however after doing alot of reading almost all opinions where that the ATI software was not very good and had alot of problems . You need to make sure in order to get the TV to work in the Media Center that not only you have a TV Tuner card,you also must have a compatable codec/plugin . In my case the supplied by Dell CD to install Cine player, that provided my PC with the needed plugin. Once you have these items (TV tuner card & plugin), you run your coaxial cable to the TV tuner cards coxail hook up which would be located at the rear of you PC on the TV Tuner card coxail input connector. Once you have these items all installed and properly so you should have no problem getting your PC to display live TV on your desk top !
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#8
August 5, 2012 at 01:52:59
Cool yeah i think when i was googling i saw that ati was the brand that goes into these machines. I am going to try out my usb dongle though later. Will be interesting to see if it picks up more channels because i find the software that goes with the usb dongle is pretty crappy! Its a leadtek winfast tv gold something or another. Thanks for that info Nick :0)

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#9
August 8, 2012 at 10:33:52
OK well tried the tv tuner dongle that i have on the MCE machine and stupid driver is a problem as usual. I have installed this dongle on two other machines(the one i use now and the machine i used before that) and its always been an ordeal. When windows wants to select a driver whatever i choose windows says that it didn't install....i think maybe from memory there is some issue with directx or active x or something. I also noticed that service pack 3 is not installed on this machine and i tried to install it when getting updates via the 'windows update' page with IE and it said something about activex.

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#10
August 9, 2012 at 06:24:27
When windows wants to select a driver whatever i choose windows says that it didn't install
Try downloading the drivers from direct from ATi, assuming your dongle is an ATi product.

it said something about activex.
Your computer saying "something" is about as descriptive as saying your car made a "sound." Care to elaborate on this ActiveX message?

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#11
August 9, 2012 at 06:46:01
No its a leadtek winfast product and i have done all that talking backwards and forwards with the manufacturer...emails i should say...got me no place really. Sorry don't remember about the active x thing. I have short term memory loss and i tried to get back to where i was and it just would not let me....this probablem has happened so many times with previous installs. I was warned not to get the usb tv tuner and i know why now. Not just that but has very poor reception. Can't pick up all the channels. Mind you i live inalow reception area for tv, radio etc anyway but i had better reception with aproper set top box

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#12
August 9, 2012 at 06:53:45
Try this site to see if they have the WinXP driver for your dongle. If not, you might have to get a new one. If so, I suggest a different manufacturer if this one wasn't helpful.

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#13
August 9, 2012 at 07:17:49
Yeah the manufacturer sent it to me more than once...at first i had someone that didn't speak english and then i got demanding so they got me the right one. Its the same no matter what machine this thing is installed on. believe me it is the dongle and crap windows driver written for it....its ok thanks but given up on it as did my head in for a long time...so not going down that road again. There is a computing.net post about it and it went on for months i think

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#14
August 9, 2012 at 23:46:05
Well it seems i have slightly better pick up of more channels but not sure it is coincidence as this has happened before. I an amplifier thing that plus into the coaxial cable. Between the wall and the tuner. I was able to get those channels before anyway but it must have been over a month ago. I am still not getting all the free to air channels so not sure if this is a coincidence or not

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