Windows XP can't copy folder created in Win7

November 13, 2011 at 15:09:59
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can't copy folder (created in windows 7) from external hard drive to XP desktop

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#1
November 13, 2011 at 16:42:41
If it's because your XP machine can't access the folder, it could be because your external drive has been formatted to the NTFS filing system, but your XP is on a Fat32 partition.

A Fat32 OS cannot access NTFS partitions.

You can convert your Windows XP partition to NTFS to get around that problem,
or reformat your external drive to Fat32.

How to convert partition from Fat32 to NTFS: http://www.ehow.com/how_5937970_con...

When converting a drive on which the OS is installed, it should not destroy data so Windows should remain intact. But it would be prudent to have a Windows recovery method in plae just in case.


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#2
November 13, 2011 at 21:10:01
"can't copy folder (created in windows 7) from external hard drive to XP desktop "

Clear as mud.

You need to do a lot better job of explaining what your problem is.

Troubleshooting USB device problems including for flash drives, external drives, memory cards.
See Response 1:
http://www.computing.net/answers/ha...
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"....... it could be because your external drive has been formatted to the NTFS filing system, but your XP is on a Fat32 partition.

A Fat32 OS cannot access NTFS partitions."


WRONG ! and WRONG !

2000, XP, Vista and Windows 7 can all recognize data on FAT32, FAT, or NTFS partitions.

There's no such thing as a FAT32 operating system !

FAT, FAT32, and NTFS are all software partitioning types.

Windows 95 OSR2 or later, Win 98, 98SE, and ME can recognize data on a FAT or FAT32 partition but they can't recognize NTFS partitions or the data on them. Win 95 previous to OSR2 and Dos 6.x and previous can only recognize data on FAT partitions.


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#3
November 14, 2011 at 07:21:41
A Fat32 OS cannot access NTFS partitions.

Completely wrong! The type of partition an OS is installed on is irrelevant when it comes to copying files from one file format to another, providing the OS can read both type of files systems, which Windows XP can.

However the preceding sentence could be right for totally different reasons.

If there are any files in the NTFS partition that are greater in size than 2 GBs then they cannot be copied to FAT32 partition os FAT32 has a moximum file sixe of 2Gbs. Other than that there is no reason why a an NTFS folder cannot be copied to an FAT32 folder.

Stuart


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#4
November 14, 2011 at 08:23:29
Really surprising misinformation from pip22.

BobM111 it would be helpful if you filled in the missing info like how are you attaching the drive, do you see it in my computer or disk management and whatever other info you think may be helpful.

Answers are only as good as the information you provide.
How to properly post a question:
Sorry no tech support via PM's


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#5
November 14, 2011 at 08:42:34
I'd be thinking if you can see the folder and can't copy it then you would need to play with take ownership.

If you can't access the drive then I'd think it was formatted in exfat or an assigned drive letter issue.

Possible that this unspecified drive has some software or setting to prevent it but doubtful.

It is possible that you don't have write permission to the place you want to copy the folder too or other restrictions based on business computers.

In an odd sense pip22 may have part of it right. I guess it is possible that you do have a fat32 formatted xp and the folder is over or files rather over 4 g.

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#6
November 15, 2011 at 03:32:03
Many thanks for this. I thought this may be the case but I just copied a folder with 393 mb from my external drive to my windows xp desktop. The folder I want to copy is over 3Gb. Could it be that it's too large to copy over?

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#7
November 15, 2011 at 03:33:38
Drive is attached by usb

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#8
November 15, 2011 at 04:12:03
Thank you Stuart S for your info. That's probably it......folder is too big to copy.
Sorry to reply this late but I'm having great deal of PC problems at the moment (nothing to do with this thread). BSOD on startups, intermittent shutdowns etc. Think my hard drive is almost gone, but that's another matter. Thank you all for your input and I would say my question has been answered.

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#9
November 15, 2011 at 06:24:01
It is not the folder size that is the problem but the size of individual files. Tthe limit is 4Gbs as pointed out by Jefro, Not the 2 Gbs I mentioned. The maximum folder size is 2Tbs

With all the other problems you are having I would get them sorted first. ou may find your file copying problems disappear once you have the BSOD problem sorted which is the far more serious.

Stuart


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#10
November 15, 2011 at 12:58:58
Where are you trying to save the files to? Is there enough room in that folder/drive?

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#11
November 15, 2011 at 15:17:35
As I said in response 2:

"You need to do a lot better job of explaining what your problem is. "

If the XP computer isn't seeing the files on the external drive at all, or if it is but you can't access all of or some of them, click on the link to the troubleshooting info in the first part of response 2 !


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#12
November 16, 2011 at 10:41:36
The folder was created in windows 7 desktop PC. I should say though that there are around 946 folders inside this main folder, with many folders within other folders. There are 6,828 files in total and this main folder is 3.26 Gb in size. Almost all files inside this folder are various office files....ppt, docs, and pdf mostly.
I copied it to my external hard drive which is 320 Gb with only 40 Gb used. It copied to external drive no problem. Because of problems with my desktop PC, I'm using an older laptop, HP satellite with XP Home installed and around 58 GB free.

For ease, I thought I would copy this folder onto the Laptop desktop, but it only does so for a second then I get an error window saying "cannot copy file". No error number or message other than that. The external disk is attached using ordinary USB. All ports on laptop are functioning properly with no conflicts.

I really thought it was because the folder was too large or maybe the content (eg folder within folders) or the NTFS and Fat 32 issue. It's not so important that I copy this folder to XP desktop. It's more the reason why that's niggling me.I can access all the folders in this external drive and have copied a few from it to the laptop desktop with no problem.
It just seems to be this 1 large folder that's the problem.

I thank everyone very much for their replies and don't really want to bother anyone with this issue, but it may be a concern for someone else at some point.

Many thanks again........
Kindest Regards........Bob


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#13
November 16, 2011 at 11:56:37
Thank you for the details.

The size of the "master" folder is not a problem

If the folder contains 3.26 gb total data for all files in it and in sub-folders, there is no file larger than 4 gb that would cause a problem if the partition on the laptop is using FAT32 software partitioning.

" I'm using an older laptop, HP satellite with XP Home installed and around 58 GB free."

It's extremely unlikely that's a FAT32 partition. You don't have the choice in Windows itself of using FAT32 software partitioning if the partition is larger than exactly 32.0 gb ( 32,768 mb) - Microsoft chose not to give you that choice.

You CAN use a third party program and get it to use FAT32 software partitioning for any size of drive partition, Windows will recognize that fine, but the the original brand name supplied software installation, and Windows itself, would have used NTFS software partitioning for any partition larger than exactly 32.0 gb.

Since you seem to be having no problem accessing the individual files and sub-folders inside the "master" folder, and no problem copying some of them, on / from the external hard drive, your problem is caused by something else.

"For ease, I thought I would copy this folder onto the Laptop desktop, but it only does so for a second then I get an error window saying "cannot copy file"

It said "cannot copy file", NOT "cannot copy folder" or similar.

Your info in the title of this Topic is NOT correct !

You problem is caused by one or more files.
I suspect you have one or more files XP won't allow you to copy that Windows 7 had no problem copying.

Windows HALTS the copying process at the first instance of a file you're not allowed to copy.
When it says "cannot copy file" , if the file it can't copy is not specified on the screen, there is something you can click that will tell you which file the problem file is.

Try selecting (highlighting) all files in the folder where the problem file is located (Edit - Select All), then hold down the Ctrl key and click on the problem file's name to de-select that one file, then RIGHT click anywhere on a highlighted file and Copy all the remaining files.

You may need to do that more than once, if there is more than one file XP won't allow you to copy.

Or - you could try RIGHT clicking on the problem file, select Properties, and de-select any System, and/or Read only and/or Hidden file attribute(s) that was (were) enabled, then try copying that file.



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#14
November 16, 2011 at 13:56:49
When I drag this FOLDER from the external drive to the laptop (which is NTFS)...a window pops up saying at the top..."Error copying file or folder".......and in the window the message is......cannot copy file: with a red circle and a white cross on it. There is no indication to what file it is.

I'm trying to copy a folder, so my title of this topic is correct. I highlighted all sub folders within my main folder and tried to copy them to my laptop with the same result..."cannot copy file:" There is no way of finding what file it is without going through 946 individual subfolders. I don't think so. I'm resigned it won't copy so that's fine. It's not the end of the world. I have more problems to contend with concerning my Desktop PC. This is why I have this folder and others backed up on external drive.

Thanks again for your reply


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#15
November 16, 2011 at 14:41:56
"a window pops up saying at the top..."Error copying file or folder"..."

I can only go by what information you supply. If your information isn't accurate that doesn't help at all.

Problems copying an entire folder are rare - it's usually one or more files inside the folder that are causing the problem.

You could also try this...

- you could try RIGHT clicking on each folder (or at least the "master" folder), select Properties, and de-select any System, and/or Read only and/or Hidden attribute(s) that was (were) enabled, then try copying that folder.

You didn't mention previously that you were using Drag and Drop to copy the folder. Drag and Drop has limitations - sometimes you can't Drag and Drop.
Try Copying the folder, Pasting it where you want to go, in My Computer instead.

- try copying the folder to an empty folder. If you get the same error,
- if your problem is caused by a problem file, there will be files in the new folder in the formely empty folder, the one after the last one listed is the problem file, unless the first file was the problem file.
- if your problem is caused by the folder, there will be nothing in the formerly empty folder.

- or - select all the files and folders inside a folder- copy them to a blank folder. If you get the same error, if your problem is caused by a problem file, there will be files in the formerly empty folder, the one after the last one listed is the problem file (there will be fewer files than the ones you selected to copy), unless the first file was the problem file.

or - select all the files inside a folder- de-select all sub-folders if any - copy them to a blank folder. If you get the same error, if your problem is caused by a problem file, there will be files in the formerly empty folder, the one after the last one listed is the problem file (there will be fewer files than the ones you selected to copy), unless the first file was the problem file.

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#16
November 16, 2011 at 15:29:22
Try this.

Start - Run - type: cmd (click OK or press Enter)

Type the drive letter of your external drive followed by a colon character.

e.g. G: (press Enter)

type: dir /o:n /p (press Enter)

(space after dir and n, colon character between o and n - sorts - orders - in alphabetical order; displays a page at a time if it's a long list. )

The files and folders on the entire drive will be listed
Folders (directories) are flagged <DIR> on the same line.

type cd, space,the name of the "master" folder you're trying to copy.

e.g. cd MASTER (press Enter)
cd OTHER\MASTER

type: dir /a:h (press Enter)

All files and folders with the Hidden attribute will be listed.

type: dir /a:s

All files and folders with the System attribute will be listed

type: dir /a:hs

All files and folders with both the Hidden and System attribute will be listed

type: dir /a:r

All files and folders with the Read only attribute will be listed.

type: dir /a:hsr

All files and folders with all three attributes will be listed.
........

If there are not a lot of files / folders listed when you type those, it wouldn't take long to remove their attributes.

type: cls to clear the screen in the CMD interface.

You can easily check the attributes of the "master" folder by examining it's Properties normally in Windows


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