Why do I NOW need administrator permission?

Hewlett-packard / Df253a-aba a250n
September 30, 2011 at 10:32:45
Specs: Microsoft Windows XP Professional, 2.6 GHz / 511 MB
I think I ran some Windows XP updates, and now my computer won't let me do things because I'm not the administrator. Please help. I've been using my computer for a while now and have never had to log in to my user id, but recently, I had to change my settings so it would stop asking me to log in to my user id.

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#1
September 30, 2011 at 10:46:13
"I had to change my settings so it would stop asking me to log in to my user id."

Please detail what changes you made. Like did you create a new account?

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#2
September 30, 2011 at 11:16:58
I believe i followed these instructions. http://www.w7forums.com/automatic-l...

I clicked RUN and typed "control userpasswords2" and made changes there.

But even before I did this, about a month ago my computer was always opening to my account and NEVER asked me for administrator permission to do certain tasks. Somehow it all of a sudden started starting up on the user id page and I had to select my name (administrator is also an option).


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#3
September 30, 2011 at 14:12:54
sounds like you added an account. When you do so the welcome screen shows up. what account besides administrator is showing on the welcome screen?

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#4
October 1, 2011 at 15:12:48
My computer currently automatically opens to my user account "Joe" desktop, so I am not sure what the options are on the Welcome screen. I believe "Joe" is listed as a guest user. But every time I click START, LOG OFF, then SWITCH USER, the only account that shows up is "Administrator."

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#5
October 1, 2011 at 15:37:39
I have clicked on "Administrator" and opened to that desktop... then when i try to log off and switch users, "Administrator" is still the only option. "Joe" does not show up.

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#6
October 1, 2011 at 15:59:19
It's possible for Windows updates to change whether your user is Logged On automatically or not - e.g. there is an update for a .Net version I know of that does that - but I've never heard of one that changes your user privileges.
That's usually caused by MALWARE !
......

All users of XP have administrator rights or privileges by default, except for the optional Guest account, but that can be changed so a user has limited rights or privileges, and that can't be changed back to administrator rights or privileges by that user - only whatever user that has administrator rights or privileges can change that.

There is a Guest account that can be enabled in Control Panel - (Classic view) - User Accounts by any user with administrator rights or privileges - that Guest user always has limited rights or privileges.
....

XP has a built in user account spelled exactly Administrator. You can't have two user accounts that have exactly the same characters for the name, and in the case of that account, it probably doesn't matter whether the letters you use are upper or lower case, you still can't have any other user spelled exactly Administrator.

If you look at C:\Documents and Settings\.... one of the user subfolders is always Administrator by default.

You don't normally see the Administrator user listed on the Logon screen when you boot normally by default - you only see that user choice when you choose to load Windows in Safe mode.

You don't normally see the Administrator user listed in Control Panel - (Classic view) - User Accounts unless you have chosen to load Windows in Safe mode.

(Press F8 repeatedly while booting the computer, don't hold down the key, starting very early in the boot sequence or right after the led for your display turns the color it is when you have video in Windows, and when the Windows loading choices menu appears, choose Safe mode, or Safe mode with networking if you need access to the internet.)

The ONLY time Administrator appears on your normal boot Logon screen by default is when there are NO other users that have administrator privileges - they've either been deleted, or all other users have been assigned limited privileges, by someone with .administrator privileges.

OR
Some malware messes with your computer such that your user that previously had administrator privileges is now denied it's administrator privileges.

"...when i try to log off and switch users, "Administrator" is still the only option. "Joe" does not show up."

Also - you SHOULD be able to click on Log Off, then Switch Users, and switch to any other user, if there are other users - that's NOT normal, and that may indicate you DO have malware.

Try running Malwarebytes to see if you can get rid of your symptoms with that.

See response 1:
http://www.computing.net/answers/wi...

Ignore the part about loading your latest System Restore restore point unless you did what the guy in that Topic said he did in the first post - loaded a previous restore point.
....

"I believe "Joe" is listed as a guest user."

I have the Guest user enabled on my XP MCE 2005 system.
When I click on Log Off, then Switch Users, the Guest user, which always has limited privileges, IS listed.

When you have loaded the Administrator user, when you look in Control Panel - (Classic view) - User Accounts , is the Joe user listed ? It SHOULD be.
Does it have limited privileges or administrator privileges ?

Look at C:\Documents and Settings\.... one of the user subfolders should be Joe - do you see that ?


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#7
October 2, 2011 at 00:04:42
I ran Malwarebytes and Spybot Search and Destroy and found nothing. Unfortunately, I was unable to update both of the programs because I am "not the administrator."

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#8
October 2, 2011 at 07:17:16
" Unfortunately, I was unable to update both of the programs because I am "not the administrator."

Did you try installing Malwarebtyes after loading Windows Safe mode with networking (mode) ? Sometimes whatever malware it is doesn't interfere with privileges when you load Safe mode. Safe mode with networking is required in order for Malwarebytes (or Spybot) to be able to access the internet and update itself.

I DO NOT recommend that you use Spybot. It has made seroius mistakes in the past when it removed things - in some cases the mistakes couldn't be fixed if System Restore was turned off (if it wasn't turned off loading a previous restore point MIGHT work) , unless you ran a Repair installation of Windows procedure, or installed Windows from scratch.

If that doesn't help, you probably have malware - it's just a matter of using the right anti-malware program to find and get rid of it.

Try using the online scanners many anti-malware makers offer.

Try installing or using them in Safe mode or Safe mode with netwokng (mode).
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Is Joe still there as a user ?

"When you have loaded the Administrator user, when you look in Control Panel - (Classic view) - User Accounts , is the Joe user listed ? It SHOULD be.
Does it have limited privileges or administrator privileges ?

Look at C:\Documents and Settings\.... one of the user subfolders should be Joe - do you see that ? "


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#9
October 4, 2011 at 19:22:18
I loaded Windows safe mode with networking and updated my Malwarebytes and ran the scan and found nothing.

I clicked switch user and logged into the ONLY option which was "Administrator." When my Administrator account opened, I clicked control panel/user accounts and my options were "Administrator" and "Guest (Guest account is off)"

When I open control panel/user accounts while on my "Joe" account, 3 user accounts show up: "Administrator," "ASP.NET Machine A...," and "Guest (Guest account is off)"

On both "Administrator" and "Joe" user accounts, the folder "joe" was in Documents and Settings.

When I am on the Administrator account, I click switch user, and the ONLY option is Admistrator (which is obviously frustrating because I JUST left my Joe account). That happens in safe mode and in normal mode.


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#10
October 4, 2011 at 19:48:18
Does the Joe user have limited privileges or administrator privileges ?
....

Search for
ASP.NET Machine Account
on the web.

E.g.
What is the ASP.NET Machine Account?
http://marksxp.mvps.org/WindowsXP/a...

I've followed the procedure on that page to hide it on a few Windows installations, but I did NOT have your privileges problem when I booted normally on those systems.
...........

Did you finish installing Windows updates ?
Sometimes a bug in an update is fixed by a subsequent update to the same thing.

Do you realy NEED .Net Framework 1.1 ?

.Net Framework versions are independant of one another E.g. version 2 is NOT an update to version 1.1, etc.
Some programs require specific .Net versions be installed, but you don't need to install all available .Net versions. Most programs that DO need a specific .Net version will produce an error message about that if it han't been installed.
If a version wasn't listed when you did an Express search on the Windows Updates web page, you DO NOT need to install it


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#11
October 4, 2011 at 23:32:07
I do not know where to see what kind of privileges user account "Joe" has. I am unable to do certain tasks because I am not the administrator, so I assume I have limited privileges.

When I open up user accounts, it says Joe is a Guest account... however, as stated previously, Joe does not show up on the welcome page when I want to switch users.

I noticed that these websites instruct to delete the "ASP.NET Machine Account" while on the User Id "Administrator." When I log on as the administrator, this account does not show up. Only "Administrator" and "Guest" show up. Should I delete ASP.NET Machine Account on my user account, "Joe"?


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#12
October 4, 2011 at 23:32:41
I believe I completed all of the windows updates.

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#13
October 5, 2011 at 01:32:54
joenobodyyet said > "Should I delete ASP.NET Machine Account on my user account, "Joe"?"

I would.

NET Framework
3. Remove Useless User Accounts ( 3/4 of the way down the page )
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/Suppo...
Windows XP Creates additional User accounts that are of no use to the average user. aspnet_wp and the ASP.NET account can be removed if you do not do .NET development work.
The account it adds is called ASP.NET Machine. It is in User Accounts in Control Panel, and it IS SAFE to delete.


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#14
October 5, 2011 at 06:24:47
"I think I ran some Windows XP updates, and now my computer won't let me do things because I'm not the administrator. Please help. I've been using my computer for a while now and have never had to log in to my user id, but recently, I had to change my settings so it would stop asking me to log in to my user id."

Were you having the problem of "....won't let me do things because I'm not the administrator." BEFORE you "......had to change my settings so it would stop asking me to log in to my user id...." ??

If NO, you may have screwed something up when you "...had to change my settings so it would stop asking me to log in to my user id."
.......

"I do not know where to see what kind of privileges user account "Joe" has. I am unable to do certain tasks because I am not the administrator, so I assume I have limited privileges."

When you boot the computer into Safe mode, you should see at least two user choices to log on to - Administrator and Joe .
Do you see that ?

When you choose the Administrator user, go to Control Panel - (Classic view) - User Accounts.

You should see Administrator with Computer Administrator below it,
and Joe with either
- Computer Administrator below it.
OR
- Limited or similar below it

Computer Administrator below it = that user has administrator privilieges.

(Apparently the Guest user, whether it is enabled or disabled, does not show up there in Safe mode.)

If Joe has Computer Administrator below it, either
- you have malware that hasn't been found yet - that's most likely according to what I've seen
- or - much less likely - something else is screwed up .

If Joe has Limited or similar below it, click on the Joe user and click on Change the account type or similar - change it to Computer Administrator.
If you're not allowed to do that, you probably have malware.
........

Apparently Switch Users behaves differently in Safe mode
E.g.
When you have loaded Safe mode, and then have chosen the Administrator user, when you click on Start, then Log Off, then Switch Users, nothing happens.

However, if you click Start, then Log Off, then Log Off again, you get the logon screen with all the users (except Guest, if it's been enabled) on it
You should see Administrator and Joe there in your case.
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"On both "Administrator" and "Joe" user accounts, the folder "joe" was in Documents and Settings."

The folder Joe will always be shown there, unless, possibly, when you have malware, no matter which user you load, however, whether you can access the Joe folder is another matter.

" When my Administrator account opened, I clicked control panel/user accounts and my options were "Administrator" and "Guest (Guest account is off)"

That's NOT normal. I DO NOT see the Guest user there when Windows has been loaded in Safe mode.

Do you see the Administrator user listed on the logon screen when you boot normally ? If YES, that can only happen if your Joe user HAS been assigned limited privileges, and there are no other users other than Administrator that have administrator privileges. .

"When I open control panel/user accounts while on my "Joe" account, 3 user accounts show up: "Administrator," "ASP.NET Machine A...," and "Guest (Guest account is off)"

That's NOT normal either. When I boot normally and load my user, I see ONLY my user and Guest (has been turned off or on) there. The Administrator user should NOT be there. ASP.Net Machine may show up there in certain circumstances.

(i have only the one user made by me, which has administrator priviliges by default, and the built in Guest account has been turned on. The built in Administrator user shows up on the logon screen ONLY when I have loaded Windows in Safe mode.)


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#15
October 5, 2011 at 11:03:15
This is what I did to auto login to Joe.... http://www.fix-your-computer-today....

I did this immediately, so I am not sure if I had administrator privileges or not.

Can you help me reverse what I did so I can see the User account welcome screen again? When I boot normally, it automatically logs in to Joe. Unfortunately, when I click Run, then enter "control userpasswords2", it says I need administrator privileges... so I can't reverse it that way.

I'll try opening in Safe Mode when I get a chance and checking the things you mentioned.


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#16
October 5, 2011 at 12:16:06
If Joe has limited privileges, it's probably because you un-intentionally assigned that to the Joe user when you followed that procedure
If Joe has administrator privileges - Computer Administrator is below the Joe name when you look in Control Panel - User Accounts - you probably DO have malware.
I suggested you use Malwarebytes because I have had to fix other people's computers who had administrator priviliges in XP yet they were denied those rights, and Malwarebytes fixed the problem, at least a half dozen times, by getting rid of malware it found, when I chose to have it remove all of what it found.

When you load Windows in Safe mode, when you load that the Administrator user it ALWAYS has administrator privilieges, and that can't be changed (at least, it can't be changed any way I know of - there is no option to change the account type in Control Panel - User Accounts for the Administrator user, if it IS spelled exactly that way).

Load the Adminstrator user and..
.
"...go to Control Panel - (Classic view) - User Accounts.

You should see Administrator with Computer Administrator below it,
and Joe with either
- Computer Administrator below it.
OR
- Limited or similar below it

Computer Administrator below it = that user has administrator privileges.

(Apparently the Guest user, whether it is enabled or disabled, does not show up there in Safe mode.)

If Joe has Computer Administrator below it, either
- you have malware that hasn't been found yet - that's most likely according to what I've seen
- or - much less likely - something else is screwed up .

If Joe has Limited or similar below it, click on the Joe user and click on Change the account type or similar - change it to Computer Administrator.
If you're not allowed to do that, you probably have malware. "
........

Are you using a password for your Joe user ?

"It's possible for Windows updates to change whether your user is Logged On automatically or not - e.g. there is an update for a .Net version I know of that does that - ......"

As I recall that's .Net Framework 2.0.
You will get the Logon screen when it wasn't appearing previously if you were not using a password for your user.
Installing the further Windows Updates for .Net 2.0 AFTER that restores the normal automatic logon if the (single user set) user needs no password.

You initially set up your single (user set)user that is not using a password to automatically logon by simply pressing Enter.


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#17
October 5, 2011 at 15:45:54
Start your computer in Safe mode - Administrator account.
Click > Start > Run, type > control userpasswords2 & hit Enter.
Select your user name.
Click on > Reset Password button.
If you don't want any passwords, Uncheck the box > Users must enter a user name and password to use this computer.
Click Apply & OK.
Reboot.

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#18
October 12, 2011 at 17:35:03
I have never set up a password to login to my user account "joe"

Johnw, I tried what you said and it didn't help unfortunately.

In safe mode on the administrator account, I did Start < control panel < User Accounts.... Joe does not show up.

I then tried (in safe mode on the administrator account) Start > Run, type > control userpasswords2 And then a User Accounts box opened. Under "Users for this computer" it has user name and group:

User name: Administrator Group: Administrators
ASPNET Users
joe Debugger Users

If I select joe and then click properties, I have the option to change the group membership to "Standard User," "Restricted user," or "Other" (which gives me a drop down list of group names such as administrators, debugger users, guests, etc.) joe is currently set to “other” (debugger users)

Should I just change joe to "Standard User"?? I don't want to do anything just in case, so let me know. Thank you!


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#19
October 12, 2011 at 19:34:27
"User name: Administrator Group: Administrators
ASPNET Users
joe Debugger Users"

I don't understand why you have the ASPNET option, did you remove all the ASP user accounts, as per my post #13. You may have to use Safe mode.

Using Safe mode may be another way of regaining admin rights.
1. Log on as Administrator, or as a user with administrator permissions.
2. Right-click My Computer, and then click Manage.
3. In the left pane, expand the Local Users and Groups node, and then click Users.
4. In the right pane, double-click the Administrator account.
5. On the General tab, make sure the > Account is disabled check box is not ticked, and then click OK.
6. Quit the Computer Management console.
7. Reboot.
http://marksxp.mvps.org/images/asp....

"Should I just change joe to "Standard User"??"
I would'nt.


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#20
October 12, 2011 at 19:35:02
"Start > Run, type > control userpasswords2 And then a User Accounts box opened. Under "Users for this computer" it has user name and group"

When I do that I see

Administrator Administrators

ASPNET Users

Guest Guests (my Guest user has been enabled)

(My User Name) Administrators

When I select (My User Name) then Properties, Group Membership, it's set to Others - Administrators

That's probably what your Joe user is supposed to be set to.

There is no Debugger users listed in the Others drop down box.

The ASPNET user does not show up anywhere else (in Control Panel - User Accounts of any user even in Safe mode)


I have

Microsoft .Net Framework 1.1, 2.0 SP2, 3.0 SP2, and 3.5 SP1 listed in Add or Remove Programs (Show updates not selected)

As I pointed to and said in response 10:

"What is the ASP.NET Machine Account?
http://marksxp.mvps.org/WindowsXP/a...


I've followed the procedure on that page to hide it on a few Windows installations, but I did NOT have your privileges problem when I booted normally on those systems."
...........

I don't recall whther I hid it on my own XP MCE 2005 installtion - but I believe I didn't have to.

I've never removed it on any XP installation.

Why the welcome screen appeared when it didn't previously...

The Welcome to Windows screen appears when you start Windows XP
after you install the .NET Framework 1.1
http://support.microsoft.com/defaul...

The ASP.NET Machine Account is probably directly related to the ASPNET user.

Question
What is the ASPNET user account for?
The "ASPNET" user account is created in Windows XP by Microsoft .NET Framework. It is an automatic machine account created to limit access rights of .NET applications.
http://www.cadforum.cz/cadforum_en/...


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#21
October 12, 2011 at 19:54:51
I did the same as you Tubesandwires, got similar results.

"ASPNet Users"
I don't have, my installs start at version 2.

Guest Guests (my Guest user has been enabled)
I don't have any enabled.

joenobodyyet, if you don't have anything to delete in the User Accounts in Control Panel, I would try this. You may have to use Safe mode.

.NET Framework Cleanup Tool
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Tweak/...
http://www.softpedia.com/progScreen...
http://blogs.msdn.com/astebner/page...


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#22
October 12, 2011 at 20:27:26
I don't think the ASPNET user has anything to do with joenobodyyet's Joe priviliges problem. If he has Microsoft .Net Framework 1.1 listed in Add or Remove Programs, it's perfectly normal for it to be there when he runs control userpasswords2 .

I don't think I installed .Net Framework 1.1 just because it was a Windows update listed when I did an Express search for Windows updates. I think it was required to be installed by some software I installed

I know .Net Framework 2.0 is required to be installed before Catalyst is installed for Catalyst to work properly if you load Catalyst along with ATI video drivers.

I never install .Net Framework updates listed when I do a Custom search for Windows updates, unless they include updates for the versions I already have. .


I think he should try this:

When I select (My User Name) then Properties, Group Membership, it's set to Others - Administrators

That's probably what your Joe user is supposed to be set to.


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#23
October 12, 2011 at 20:46:22
Search for: debugger user

E.g.

Adding Debugger Users and Configuring DCOM
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/lib...

User account type changed to debugger (was Administrator)
http://forums.techarena.in/windows-...

Users must belong to the Administrators group or to the Debugger Users group to use the Script Editor component in Office
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/891962

I don't see how Joe being a Debugger user would affect the Joe user's priviliges.

You haven't told us whether Joe has Computer Administrator below his name when you look in Control Panel - User Accounts
If he doesn't, try changing it to that when you boot into Safe mode and select the Administrator user, then go to Control Panel - User Accounts


Administrators changes to Debugger Users
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/1...

Excerpt:

Use LUSRMGR.MSC, not CONTROL USERPASSWORDS2 to check the group membership. You'll get all the groups, not just the one that appears in the drop down. :-)


If you use LUSRMGR.MSC, you'll see ASPNET user and ASP.NET Machine Account are the same thing .


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#24
October 12, 2011 at 21:45:28
When I click Control panel, user accounts, Joe has (Guest account) under it.

I did not delete ASPNET because, to be honest, when i opened the link on #13, I was pretty overwhelmed and lost on what to do.

I'm going to boot in safe mode now and see if anything works.


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#25
October 12, 2011 at 21:52:58
"I did not delete ASPNET because, to be honest, when i opened the link on #13, I was pretty overwhelmed and lost on what to do"
Ok, my info said go to 3 & do this, forget about the link.

Windows XP Creates additional User accounts that are of no use to the average user. aspnet_wp and the ASP.NET account can be removed if you do not do .NET development work.
The account it adds is called ASP.NET Machine. It is in User Accounts in Control Panel, and it IS SAFE to delete.


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#26
October 12, 2011 at 22:35:36
"When I click Control panel, user accounts, Joe has (Guest account) under it."

A guest user (account) always has limited privileges

Load Safe mode, select the Administrator user, go to Control Panel - User Accounts, and try changing the Joe user's account type to Computer Administrator (administrator privileges).

You SHOULD be able to do that when you use the Administrator user.



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#27
October 12, 2011 at 23:26:37
Thanks Johnw, if it will help, I'll go ahead and delete ASPNET.

I have logged on to Administrator in regular mode and in safe mode and BOTH do not show "Joe" when I click Control Panel < User Accounts.

However, joe does show up when i do Run < control passwords2. I just changed the group for joe from Debugger Users to Administrators. We'll see if this works.


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#28
October 12, 2011 at 23:41:03
So I restarted my computer, and it brought me the the Welcome screen. And the only user was "Joe"! Hopefully this is a good thing haha. It reads "computer administrator" below "Joe."

When I click Start < Control Panel < User Accounts, Joe shows up and Guest (guest account is off) shows up.

If I delete ASP.NET, it asks if I want to "keep files" or "delete files" What should I do??

Also, how do I get my computer to automatically login to Joe so I can skip clicking my icon on the welcome screen.


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#29
October 12, 2011 at 23:46:26
"If I delete ASP.NET, it asks if I want to "keep files" or "delete files" What should I do??"
Delete.

"Also, how do I get my computer to automatically login to Joe so I can skip clicking my icon on the welcome screen"
Reboot after doing the above.


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#30
October 13, 2011 at 21:04:41
I deleted ASP.NET and it worked!!! Went right to my user account. Thanks!!!

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#31
October 13, 2011 at 21:34:10
"I just changed the group for joe from Debugger Users to Administrators. We'll see if this works."

"So I restarted my computer, and it brought me the the Welcome screen. And the only user was "Joe"! Hopefully this is a good thing haha. It reads "computer administrator" below "Joe." "

So - does Joe you have administrator priviliges now ?
You're not getting the you don't have the right to .....messages ?
.....

You didn't need to go to all the fuss of deleting the ASPNET user.

I never have.

It being present had nothing to do with your Joe user being assigned a Guest user.
I don't know how that came about, but I suspect you un-intentionaly, or intentionally but mistakenly, did that yourself when you used control userpasswords2 the first time.

As I ponited to previously -

Why the welcome screen appeared when it didn't previously...

The Welcome to Windows screen appears when you start Windows XP
after you install the .NET Framework 1.1
http://support.microsoft.com/defaul...

Excerpts:

CAUSE
When you install the .NET Framework 1.1, a hidden local user account that is nam...When you install the .NET Framework 1.1, a hidden local user account that is named ASPNET is created. When you start Windows, Windows treats the ASPNET local user account as an additional user account, although the ASPNET user account is hidden. Therefore, the Welcome screen appears and prompts you to click your user name.
Back to the top

RESOLUTION
To resolve this problem, obtain the latest service pack for the .NET Framework 1.1. For additional information, click the following article number to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
885055 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/885055/ ) How to obtain Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 Service Pack 1
....

All you had to do is load Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 Service Pack 1 .

As I mentioned previously...


My Add or Remove Programs shows I have Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 Service Pack 2 installed, the next one after that.

(The earlier versions of ..NET Framework 1.1 software don't show up there when later versiions have been installed.).


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#32
October 13, 2011 at 22:24:31
" I deleted ASP.NET and it worked!!! Went right to my user account. Thanks!!!"
Whew, you certainly made hard work of that.

Now you have done it, you realize how simple it was to get back to where you wanted it.

Net Framework is an programers tool, if you go to install a program in which the programer has used the tool, it will ask you to download the version needed for his program, either in the specs or whilst installing.

Another point, you should now make sure you have SP3 installed & all the MS updates.


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#33
October 13, 2011 at 22:27:03
Where is the best place to download SP3? and MS updates? Thanks

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#34
October 13, 2011 at 22:30:14
Tubesandwires, I changed Joe to administrator and my computer opened to the Welcome screen and I selected Joe. So far, I have not have any pop ups telling me I need administrator privileges. However, I wanted my computer to simply open directly to Joe like it used to. When I deleted ASPNET, somehow, it did NOT open to the Welcome screen, but took me directly to the desktop of the Joe user account!!

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#35
October 13, 2011 at 22:54:48
Download & install XP SP3 first, I do it this way, because I work on other peoples comps all the time, even if you don't, it is still the best way.
http://www.microsoft.com/download/e...

Once you have done it, go into Control Panel, double click on Automatic Updates & tell me what it is set on.

Also whilst in control Panel, double click on System & tell me what it says in General > System. Does it say Service Pack 3?


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#36
October 13, 2011 at 23:17:35
Yes it does say Service Pack 3

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#37
October 13, 2011 at 23:22:01
"Yes it does say Service Pack 3"

Ok, you are right then, just tell me what it says in Automatic Updates.


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#38
October 14, 2011 at 00:22:32
It says automatically download recommended updates for my computer and install them. That is what i have selected and it does it once a week. There are other options:

Download updates for me but let me choose when to install them

Notify me but don't automatically download or install them

Turn off automatic updates


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#39
October 14, 2011 at 00:36:27
"That is what i have selected and it does it once a week"

All good then, you should be Ok.

Can you right click on your name & after OS: Microsoft Windows XP Professional, add > SP3, makes it a lot easier having the info when you post.


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#40
October 14, 2011 at 08:12:00
"Also whilst in control Panel, double click on System & tell me what it says in General > System. Does it say Service Pack 3?"

"Yes it does say Service Pack 3"

That indicates SP3 updates are already installed. Are you have problems with something related to having installed them ?

Automatic Update does not install Windows XP SP1, SP2, or SP3 updates automatically, but it can download them.


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#41
October 14, 2011 at 10:38:02
Johnw, when I right click on my name it just says "open link in new tab, open link in new window, etc" I did a Tom Scan to scan my pc but it didn't update to SP3. Where do i go where I can manually add that?

Tubesandwires, I don't believe I am having troubles


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#42
October 14, 2011 at 15:04:43
"Johnw, when I right click on my name it just says "open link in new tab, open link in new window, etc"
That's right, do just that & I think you can then edit your specs, if you can't, maybe someone else can tell us.

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#43
October 15, 2011 at 23:52:09
I went there and found no way to edit my specs.

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#44
October 16, 2011 at 08:43:10
"Can you right click on your name & after OS: Microsoft Windows XP Professional, add > SP3"

Whether you can do that or not, we can easily ask the person who started the topic to confirm they have SP3 updates installed by them doing several simple things to find that out.

My user computer info for this site is oudated and the date I first started posting here (became a user) is incorrect.


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#45
October 22, 2011 at 22:24:17
you may have installed a virtual lan or a software program did it for you. like Himachi this will create secure shares.

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#46
October 22, 2011 at 23:48:42
a1billk

Thie subject of this topic has been solved.

He probably created the problem himself when he changed the wrong thing when he used control userpasswords2. His Joe user was set to Debugger users - when he changed that to Administrator his administrator privilges were restored.

When his Joe user was set to Debugger users.....,
- Joe was seen as a Guest user when he booted normally and loaded the Joe user and looked in Control Panel - User Accounts
- the Administrator user showed up on the logon screen when he booted normaly (it doesn't by default) because there were no other users that had administrator priviliges. When he looked in Control Panel - User Accounts the Joe user was not listed because Guest accounts are not listed when you load the Administrator user,
- the Joe user did not show up on the logon screen when he loaded Windows Safe mode because Guest users do not show up there - only the Administrator user was listed
- the Joe user did not show up when he loaded Windows Safe mode and the Administrator user in Control Panel - User accounts because Guest users do not show up there. when you have loaded the Administrator user.

He used control userpasswords2 because he had a logon screen he wanted to get rid of (he had logged on automatically previously) after he had installed some Windows updates.

He had a logon screen (he had logged on automatically previously) because he installed Microsoft .Net Framework 1.1 when he installed those Windows updates.
The Welcome to Windows screen appears when you start Windows XP
after you install the .NET Framework 1.1
http://support.microsoft.com/defaul...
If he had installed the SP1 or later updates for that, the logon would have gone back to being automatic

There was no need for him to remove the ASPNET user to get rid of the login screen


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