Send To Insert Disk Problem

May 18, 2012 at 20:58:09
Specs: Windows XP
<bC D –Rom Send to- Please insert Disk Problem- Can’t burn CD’s
First please excuse me if this is the wrong forum and direct to proper one.
Some background: I hadn’t used this computer for several years so my memory of how things got here are vague at least. I hadn’t had a occasion to burn anything in some time. So when I did I find I have problems. I have pictures on this computer that I can’t remember how they got there. I can only guess they were on a disk that I can’t find.

I want to copy them to a disk so I can save them access them from another computer. I did a search for all pictures- when they came up, I did a select all Then send to Drive D
At that point I got “please insert disk” I had already done so. I then tried to send to Drive E- Same result. Unable to save single picture also
I’ve tried so many things I’ve forgotten the sequence or even what I’ve done.
I clicked on An NTI icon. . (no idea where it came from either) Got a blue screen and had to unplug computer to reboot.-
When I tried again-Same result- No drives shown in Send To. I checked properties of NTI and found it to be a HP program. My drives are mitsumi and lite on so I figured the Hp could be causing a conflict so removed it using “Add and Remove”

Bottom line- Now there are no CD drives shown in Send To and the “Please insert disk problem still exists.
Device manager says both drives are working properly
System restore doesn’t fix either
I’ve spent days searching for an answer I’ve tried nearly every suggestion I’ve found on the net. I’m reluctant to change registry entries so haven’t done so
Will a re-install of XP solve this? O is there something simpler? I really don’t want to re-install all the updates etc.
I can access material on previously recorded disks OK
I'm hoping the fix is something simple like re-setting defaults but that is something I don't know how to do

Please help
. I’ve been using computers for about 15 years so I know A LITTLE BIT but PROBABLY NOT MUCH. I might add I’m 78 years old so I need all the help I can get


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#1
May 18, 2012 at 21:20:57
The drive you have a burnable CD inserted into must be able to burn CDs. E.g. it must show up as a CD-RW driive.

If you don't have a burner drive, if you have a USB flash drive, you could copy the picture files to that.

CD-rom and DVD-rom (only) drives CANNOT recognize a blank burnable CD or DVD. You will get the "please insert disk" message when you click on the drive letter of the drive even when there's a blank burnable disk in it.

XP has a a simple CD burning program built into it. It cannot burn DVDs.
If you don't have any third party burning program installed, you can use the one that's built into XP.

When there is no third party burning program installed....

Windows XP itself has limited recognition of burnable disks.
If you insert a burnable CD in a burner drive, in My Computer, the icon for the drive should change to an image of a CD with a small black label on it that has white letters on it - e.g. CD-R or CD-RW.
However, clicking on that icon results in an error message if there's no data on the burnable CD.
You can't RIGHT click on a file or list of files and Send to to a blank burnable CD.
You can only Send to a burner drive in any case, not a CD-rom drive or a DVD-rom drive.

For directions about how to use the simple burning program that's built into XP

Start - Help and Support
Search for: burn a CD

See
Copy files and folders to a CD
Add more files to a CD

Etc.


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#2
May 18, 2012 at 22:01:30
I don't need instructions on how to burn a CD. If you read my question the problem is much deeper than that

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#3
May 18, 2012 at 22:11:38
When you don't have a third party burning program installed (it sounds like you un-installing the HP burning program resulted in that) , what you need to do to burn a CD with XP's built in program is different than for the third party program.

"Bottom line- Now there are no CD drives shown in Send To ..."

You can only Send to a burner drive in any case, not a CD-rom drive or a DVD-rom drive.

So far, you've only mentioned a CD-rom drive.


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#4
May 18, 2012 at 22:14:18
I thank you for any help you can give

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#5
May 18, 2012 at 22:29:39
"As I said the two drives don;t even show in the Send To panel,..."

You can only Send to a burner drive in any case, not a CD-rom drive or a DVD-rom drive.

"As to a burner, I used to be able to send to, insert disk .wored Ok"

When you don't have a third party burning program installed (it sounds like you un-installing the HP burning program resulted in that) , what you need to do to burn a CD with XP's built in program is different than for the third party program.

Are both drives still showing up in My Computer ?

If yes, is one of them labelled a CD-RW drive ?

What are the models of the drives in Device Manager ?

Is there any yellow ! or red X beside one of them ?

If you have installed Windows from scratch since the last time you burned a CD, a burner drive may NOT be recognized as a burner drive until AFTER the main chipset drivers have been installed for the mboard.


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#6
May 18, 2012 at 22:44:58
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As to a burner, I;m not sure if I have one at this time or not. But I used to be able to burn CD.s I'll check ou the help and suppor and thanks againt

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#7
May 18, 2012 at 23:03:12
Both drives show. Device manager says working properly
I'm going to find a free burner program and install- then see what happens.
Any suggestions/

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#8
May 18, 2012 at 23:11:05
You'll find plenty here: https://www.google.com.au/search?q=...

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#9
May 19, 2012 at 00:04:59
Thanks for your patience
Just bought CDRW drive on Ebay
calling it quits for tonight
Lou

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#10
May 19, 2012 at 15:12:54
Our most frequent problem for those who answer frequently on this web site is the person who started the topic has not provided enough information.

Your initial post had lots of info, which is good, although there was info we need missing in it, but you haven't answered most of my questions or commented otherwise enough about what I said.

I have no info so far that definitely indicates you actually DO have a burner drive on this computer. If you DO already have a burner drive, your problem can probably be easily fixed, if there's nothing wrong with the drive.

HP may have the burning program the computer originally came with in the downloads for your specific model.


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#11
May 19, 2012 at 17:58:58
Frnakly I was concerned that my original post was TOO long. I had posted the identical question to TechGuySupport and received Zero response. I assumed that the fewest words possible were the best and that no-one would even bother to read a long one. I tried to state the facts and not my frustrations.

I think I gave you the wrong info about having burned disks here before. I bought this computer and another identical from a school a few years ago. I have one in a room I call my “office” and this one near my recliner where it is as available as a laptop would be.
I’m now sure my references to having burned disks here were mistaken and were done from the other computer.

I apologize for not answering fully your questions and I really appreciate your patience.

Both Drives say CDRom without any indications of burning capability

TechGuy has a utility that reads the info on a computer. I was reluctant to include the info in the original post here as I didn’t know how it would be received. This is what it showed.
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Tech Support Guy System Info Utility version 1.0.0.2
OS Version: Microsoft Windows XP Professional, Service Pack 3, 32 bit
Processor: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.80GHz, x86 Family 15 Model 4 Stepping 9
Processor Count: 1
RAM: 479 Mb
Graphics Card: SiS 661FX/GX Mirage Graphics, 32 Mb
Hard Drives: C: Total - 76290 MB, Free - 51126 MB;
Motherboard: Acer, E661GXM
Antivirus: avast! Antivirus, Updated: Yes, On-Demand Scanner: Enabled

I checked my “office” computer’s drives:
D is
HPCD-Writer 9100B DVD/CR-R
E is
Lite On CD Rom LTN 5291S DVD/CD-R

If both have burning capability I could easily install one on this unit

Regardless I would very much like to have the capability to go to Send To, then select the drive I want to send to
I know that this doesn’t accomplish the burning process as I then have a file saying ‘You have files waiting to be burned? to disk which I then click on to complete the process

About the pictures I want to save: I don’t remember how they got on this computer. I can only guess they must have been on a disk I no linger have or can’t find
What puzzles me even more is how a HP program could have been installed on this computer and why my clicking on it caused the blue screen situation I described earlier.

Is there any reason for me to have both CDRom/RW and a CDROM capabilities?

Thanks again I'm truly sorry for not having my info correct in the first place and wasting your time
Lou



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#12
May 20, 2012 at 09:58:28
The length of the person who started the topic's posts being too long is not a problem for most people who answer regularly on this site, if the info is clearly stated.
However, there are some things that are not allowed, or that we'd rather not see posted, such as posting the results of a program that lists a huge amount of info about your computer, most of which is useless info to us.
E.g. The results you posted that the Tech Support Guy System Info Utility made are a reasonable amount of data, but posting the complete results of a Hijack This! log file is not allowed in this web site because nearly all or all of that data is useless to us regarding fixing a problem - no one who answers regularly here specializes in analyzing Highjack This! log files - there are other web sites that do that.

"Both Drives say CDRom without any indications of burning capability"

If the model number of one of the drives shown in Device Manager indicates when we look it up that it can burn CDs, there can be things wrong in Windows that make a "burner" drive be detected by Windows as a read only drive.
E.g. if the drive is connected to the Secondary IDE header, in some cases a "burner" drive will NOT be detected as a "burner" drive until AFTER the main chipset drivers have been installed in Windows.

"I checked my “office” computer’s drives:
D is
HPCD-Writer 9100B DVD/CR-R
E is
Lite On CD Rom LTN 5291S DVD/CD-R

If both have burning capability I could easily install one on this unit"

Sure, you could do that.
You would have to make sure the jumper setting on the back of the drives for one of master / slave / cable select is appropriate for it's connection situation if it's an IDE drive, on both computers..

You only need one optical drive - a "burner" drive - on a computer to be able to burn disks. If you need to copy a disk, the only time saved when you have more than one optical drive is the time it takes to eject the disk you want to copy and insert the burnable disk, when you have only one drive (a "burner" drive).

"Regardless I would very much like to have the capability to go to Send To, then select the drive I want to send to"

You can only Send to a burner drive in any case, not a CD-rom drive or a DVD-rom drive.

(All DVD-rom drives are "combo" drives can also read CDs Some are DVD-rom / CD-rom drives; some are CD "burner" / DVD-rom drives.)

"You have files waiting to be burned? " is a message you get from the built in simple CD "burning" program XP comes with.

Side notes .
The computer I'm typing this post on has only the simple CD burning program that XP comes with.
I have two combo DVD burner / CD burner drives. When I select a file or files, then Right click in My Computer or Windows Explorer, Send to shows only ONE of them, despite the fact both drives show up everywhere else in Windows itself..

I don't know why only one burner drive is listed there. Perhaps it's the first optical drive the bios is detecting or is set to detect and that's the only drive Windows shows you there.

When I follow the directions I referred to at the end of response 1, I can select either burner drive, no problem.
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When you install a third party "burning" program, what you see and what you can do after you have selected a file or files or folders and RIGHT click is usually different than what you see and can do when you do that when you have only the simple "burning" program that's built into XP.

When you have only the simple "burning" program that's built into XP and you DO have at least one "burner" drive that's being properly detected by Windows, the procedure I referred to for Copy files or folders to a CD etc. at the end of response 1 will work fine in any case.



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#13
May 20, 2012 at 10:42:36
I’m quite sure I have installed drives before by simply plugging them in (different computer) don’t think I know enough to mess around with jumpers. I am going to test both drives on the other computer and if both are burners, install on this one

I posted another question that I probably should have asked you. I stupidly thought your expertise was in the mechanical operation of computers. I should have known that you would be versed in all aspects. Anyway here’s my problem now.
I wanted to put all my pictures in a folder. I created a new folder in My Pictures which is already on my desktop. I did a search and when they all came up, I did a select all- then thinking that if I sent to desktop I would then have the option of sending to MY Pictures
Instead they ALL went to disktop
Is there a way to undo this or must I delete them one at a time?


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#14
May 20, 2012 at 11:48:08
"I’m quite sure I have installed drives before by simply plugging them in (different computer) don’t think I know enough to mess around with jumpers."

See response 1 in this:
http://www.computing.net/answers/wi...

Starting at "Your drive is an IDE drive."

Also see response 2 there.
The letters for what the jumpers are for, if they're not obvious, are either etched into the plastic near the jumpers, or are stamped into the metal on the top of the drive at the back of the drive. You may need to use good lighting in order to easily see that.

For IDE hard drives, the jumper settings are shown on a label that's on the top of the drive, the label may show the settings upside down with respect to the back of the drive, if it shows where the power connector is on the label with respect to the jumpers go by that, or you can search using the model of the drive on the web on the drive manufacturer's web site to find the jumper settings.
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When you select files or folders, then Right click and select Send to - Desktop (create shortcut), a shortcut is created on the desktop screen for where the file, or files, or folder, or folders are elsewhere on the hard drive.
Shortcut icons when on the desktop screen always have a small white square on the bottom left side that has a black arrow in it.
In other places in Windows the icon may have only the black arrow lower left.
If you selected only one file or one folder, only one shortcut appears on the desktop screen.
If you selected more than one file or more than one folder, a shortcut appears on the desktop screen for each one of them.
The shortcut or shortcuts can be deleted from the desktop screen without doing any harm to whatever the shorcuts are linked to, by RIGHT clicking on the shortcut(s) and deleting it (them).

When you select files or folders, then Right click and select Copy, then click somewhere else to place your cursor and RIGHT click, then select Paste, a second copy of it (them) is (are) made.
E.g. If your cursor was on the desktop screen when you selected Paste, the second copy(ies) is (are) on the desktop screen.
You can RIGHT click on those and delete the second copy without doing any harm to the original file.

When you select files or folders, then Right click and select Cut, then click somewhere else to place your cursor and RIGHT click, then select Paste, the information about where the file is located on the hard drive is changed to the destination. There is only one copy of the file(s) or folder(s)
If you RIGHT click on those and select Delete, if they're on the hard drive, they're deleted, but they can still be retrieved (Restored to where they were deleted from) from the Recycle Bin, if the contents of the Recycle Bin have not been cleared (deleted) and they're still listed there.
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Comments about your computer's specs.

."Motherboard: Acer, E661GXM"

Search using; Acer E661GXM

Acer: Aspire SA80 (mb: ACER E661GXM)


Acer Aspire SA80 (home support page)
http://support.acer.com/product/def...

Aspire SA80 Support Documents
http://support.acer.com/us/en/acerp...

Aspire SA80 (series) Specs
http://support.acer.com/acerpanam/d...

Excerpts:

Memory 128MB DDR400 expandable up to 2GB

System Chipset SiS 661GX + 964

Video Integrated SiS Mirage Graphic
AGP 8x Add-on Card (selected models)

"RAM: 479 Mb
Graphics Card: SiS 661FX/GX Mirage Graphics, 32 Mb"

Your mboard has 512 mb of ram installed.
1 mb is deducted from that by the bios for the conventional memory amount the operating system can't use directly.
You don't have an an actual video CARD - a CARD is removable - the SiS video adapter is built into the mboard and is NOT removable.
The bios is deducting 32 mb from the total amount for the amount of memory presently being shared with the onboard video that can't be used by the operating system.
512 - 1 - 32 = 479 mb.

You can install more ram, up to 2 gb total. XP will probably run noticeably better with 1 gb of ram or more.

Your ram will perform better when a program benefits from a higher max data transfer rate from the ram if you install a video card in the AGP slot and use that rather than the onboard video.

"Processor: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.80GHz, x86 Family 15 Model 4 Stepping 9"

If you want to install a DVD burner drive (they're all combo CD burner / DVD burner drives these days) your cpu speed is higher than the minimum recommended for a system for that, but 512 mb of ram is under the minimum recommended for that - it should be at least 1 gb for the best performance while burning a DVD.



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#15
May 20, 2012 at 15:26:24
I'll save your instructions re jumpers but the whole thing is maybe too complicated for me

I did a system restore to remove all the pictures from desktop which worked fine but here's the probkem now.And I remember seeing this when I tried before:

When I do a select all of the pictures they highlight- When I then try to copy or move to folder I get
"cannot read source file or disk". As I said earlier, I can't put my hands on the disk that these must have originally been on
Is there a way I can get these into a folder so that when I have burning capability I can do so?
I can move an individual picture to folder by dragging but I would like to move them all


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#16
May 20, 2012 at 20:19:04
""cannot read source file or disk".

That's a generic message.
The source is whatever the file or folder was on.

If the problem file or folder was on the hard drive, that's the source. Hard drive a.k.a. hard disk drive a.k.a. hard disk.
If the problem file or folder was on a USB flash drive or a memory card, that's the source.
If the problem file or folder was on a floppy disk, or on a CD or DVD disk that's the source.

It's possible for Windows to not be able to read a floppy disk, a USB flash drive, an external hard drive, a "burned" or damaged (e.g. scratched) CD or DVD, or a memory card, but it's extremely unlikely it can't read a hard drive, especially when you've had no problem otherwise with the internal hard drive - the message is probably about the file or folder, not the hard drive.
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If you select more than one file or folder, then choose something you want to do - e.g. Copy, then Paste, or Cut, then Paste, or Send to, then a destination, if any file or folder is un-readable or corrupted, Windows will produce an error message when it encounters that un-readable or corrupted file or folder and stop doing whatever it was doing.

E.g. if you chose Copy, then Paste. if the fifth file was corrupted, Windows will copy the four files before that, then produce the error message, and stop copying.

The error message will tell you which file is the problem file - either in the message itself, or when you click on more info or similar for the message.

Once you know which file is the problem file, you can de-select it from the list of files.
E.g. select all the files, hold your cursor over the problem file, hold down the Crtl key, press the left mouse button to de-select the problem file.

Or you could delete the problem file.

Dragging and dropping a file does the same thing as selecting the file, Right clicking, selecting Cut, then Right clicking at the destination where your cursor is, then selecting Paste .

If you try dragging and dropping an un-readable or corrupted file or folder, you'll get the same error message.
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Windows also produces a different error message and quits whatever it's doing if one of the files is in use at the time, at the first file that's in use.
E.g. if you have a picture file opened or minimized at the time.


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#17
May 20, 2012 at 21:09:03
First I want to say you can't possibly know how much I appreciate you hanging in here with this old guy.

let me explain exactly what I'm trying to do: I have pictures scattered about in different folders etc. I'm trying to gather them all into one folder. What I did was a search for all pictures. They all came up including some like pictures of President Kennedy that came frrom I don't lnow where. They are generic news type shots. Also alot of files that make no sense to me.
Regardless, If I can put all these into a single folder, I can then select the ones I want or delete those I don't
They would all be in a single location.

After the search was completed, I wanted to save all to a folder, this is where I got stuck.and haven't been able to figure out how to proceed
I guess I can copy and paste them individually but I would rather not have to look through vatious locations to find them all

So the questiom is- How do I do it
Hope this makes sense


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#18
May 21, 2012 at 08:11:43
Create a folder somewhere which has enough space to "house" all your images.

Then repeat your "FIND" operation. Once it completes, highlight all files and COPY them to the new folder. Once you have them "captured" you can do what you want with them. They'll all be in one spot/place and you can SAVE or DELETE etc, burn to an optical drive etc. You can then repeat the FIND, and select and delete them from the "mixed" locations.

It's a good day when you learn something
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#19
May 21, 2012 at 10:28:07
"First I want to say you can't possibly know how much I appreciate you hanging in here with this old guy."

I have a lot of respect for any senior who continues to try to learn things.
I'm 60 myself. Many of the people who answer here regularly are older than I am.
My Dad is 86 - he used to fiddle with computers but hasn't done that regularly for about 5 years, despite the fact his memory etc. is okay. My Ma is 85. She's never fiddled with computers.
There was a guy who started a topic here not long ago that I answered who said he's 92. Other people have said they're in their 70's or 80's in topics I've answered.

"I have pictures on this computer that I can’t remember how they got there. I can only guess they were on a disk that I can’t find."

"I have pictures scattered about in different folders etc"

In most cases,

- you SHOULD NOT search the whole hard drive for picture files. That will find MANY files that you didn't personally place on the hard drive.

- ALL the pictures you've added yourself are probably somewhere ONLY in the My Documents folder, on the C partition, or in sub-folders of the My Documents folder on C, UNLESS you deliberately placed the files on a partition with a drive letter other than C. or you deliberately placed the files elsewhere on C rather than in the default C:\Documents and Settings\( your user name) folder and sub-folders of that folder, including My Documents and it's sub-folders.

- if the pictures were made by a camera, they are probably *.jpg files ONLY.

- if you got them off the internet, the most common picture files are *.jpg files.

( * = "wildcard" - the first part of the file name before the dot can be anything.)

Go to My Computer

Double click on the C drive to open it.

Click on Search in the bar at the top of the screen.

On the left side of the screen....

Click on Other search options

Select Pictures, music, or video

Select Pictures and photos
Also select videos if you want to search for those, or you could search for those separately.

Click on Use advanced search options on the left

Change Look in on the left to My Documents

Click on Search on the left

If you followed ALL of the above steps, the resulting files and folders will be ONLY the ones in My Documents and it's sub-folders on the C drive. For most people, that's the ONLY place the picture and video files they personally placed on the hard drive are.

If you want to see what the pictures or videos look like, if you don't see thumbnails (tiny versions of the pictures or the first frame in videos) of the results, in the top bar, select View, then Thumbnails.

(If you see merely an icon....
- when your find a lot of files, if the computer has less memory available, it takes a short while for the thumbnails to load on each screen you're on when you do that.

- if you still see merely an icon after waiting a short time, you need to double click on the file's icon to display it. )
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If you want to save all of the files and folders found in one folder,

- (left) click once on a blank space on the right

- in the top bar, select Edit, then Select all

( If you don't want to save all the files and folders found in one folder, hold down the Ctrl key when all the files are selected, (left) click on each one you don't want in the new folder to de-select it. )

- hold your cursor over any highlighted file or folder on the right, then RIGHT click, select Copy

Go to where you want the folder to be.

Where you cursor is, RIGHT click, select New - Folder

Optional - Use the Backspace key to remove the New Folder name in the lined box, type a name in the box.

RIGHT click on the new folder and select Paste.

All the files and folders you selected will then be in that folder.

If you want to copy the folder to somewhere else, such as a USB flash drive, select the folder, with the cursor on the highlighted folder, RIGHT click, select Copy, go to where you want the folder to be, place the cursor there, RIGHT click, select Paste.

Optional - RIGHT click on the folder, choose Rename,use the Backspace key to remove the existing folder name in the lined box, type a name in the box.
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I don't recommend that you use Drag and Drop.

Dragging and dropping a file does the same thing as selecting the file or folder, Right clicking, selecting Cut, then Right clicking at the destination where your cursor is, then selecting Paste .
The file or folder is MOVED - if that's successful, the original file is no longer where it was orginally.

If you make a mistake you can lose the folder and ALL the files in the folder,
(it / they can still be retrieved, from the internal hard drive ONLY, (Restored to where they were deleted from) from the Recycle Bin, if the contents of the Recycle Bin have not been cleared (deleted) and it's / they're still listed there. )

...or lose track of where you placed it / them.

Extra copies of a file or folder that are in more than one location can be easily deleted from one or more of the locations.
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If you get an error message "cannot read source file or disk". see response 16 regarding files and folders that can't be read.



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#20
May 21, 2012 at 11:35:41
Some people, e.g., myself, sometimes place personal pictures or videos or folders with those files in them on the main desktop screen.

To check for those....

All Programs - Accessories - click on Windows Explorer.

On the left click on Desktop at the top of the list

Click on Search in the top bar.

Click on Other search options on the left.

Select Pictures, music, or video

Select Pictures and photos on the left.
Also select Video if you want to search for those, or search for those separately.

Click on Advanced search options on the left. Make sure Look in is still set to Desktop

Click on Search on the left.


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#21
May 21, 2012 at 12:04:31
Thank you, I've learned a lot
I have a separate unrelated question. Should I start a new thread or pose it here?

The question is: Can someone give me step by step instructions on how to network two xp computers. My internet connection is UVerse using a router
I don't know any other info that would be pertinet


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#22
May 21, 2012 at 14:36:03
Is it a dial-up modem connection (56 kbps) or a high speed modem connection (500 mbps or faster) to the internet ?

Is it a standalone router (usually it's connected to a standalone high speed modem via a network cable) ?.
- or - is it a combo router / high speed modem ?

What make and model is the standalone router, or the combo router / high speed modem ? Also, if that applies, what Rev or Ver of the model is it ?
The model, and Rev ( or R - revision) or Ver (or V - version) number of it, if that applies, is probably on a stuck on label on it.

Are both computers going to be connected to the router via a network cable ?

- or - are one or both computers going to be connected wirelessly to the router ?
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It's easy to set up things when all the computers connect to the router via a network cable
Setting up a wireless connection such that it's protected from anyone else accessing the router wirelessly without you giving permission to them to, which is recommended and the default for Windows, is more complicated.


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#23
May 21, 2012 at 16:36:23
I'm logging in from a diferent compuer than the one I've been communicating with you Had to log in separately on this one.
I attempted to post reply- Thought I did. but don't see it So I'm replying again

The router is Motorola NVG510
Style GXDSL
Computer one has printer and Disk burning capability
Computer One is connected to internet by telephone wire using UVerse which is ATT broadband, I don't know the speed
Computer two is via wireless router
Question:
If I get this set will I be able to send Pics and docs from two to printer?
Able to send to drive with burner (burn disks )
If I am able to do these things I won't have to worry about having a disk burner on computer two
As to someone else being able to access: I live alone.here in the foothill gold country of northern Ca. I suppose some neighbora may have computers but I don't know. I don't know how far a router signal carries,My nearest neighbor would be about 60 ft. away


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#24
May 22, 2012 at 00:26:12
Thaks for that info, but you didn't answer all of my questions.

Are both computers going to be connected to the router via a network cable ?

- or - are one or both computers going to be connected wirelessly to the router ?

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"Computer One is connected to internet by telephone wire using UVerse which is ATT broadband, I don't know the speed"

Broadband = It's a high speed modem connection .

"connected to internet by telephone wire " = it's some flavour of DSL high speed modem / connection.

Is computer One connected to a standalone high speed modem ?
Telephone jack, one network port, possibly a USB port, the computer is connected to it via a network cable

Or is it a combo high speed modem / router ?

Telephone jack, 5 (usually) network ports, one of them is labeled WAN, possibly a USB port, the computer is connected to it via a network cable.

Did someone come to your place that works for AT&T and set up the Uverse Motorola wireless combo high speed modem / router for you ?

Or - did they send it to you, and you're supposed to set it up ?

.......

"Computer two is via wireless router"

Wireless routers, or combo router / high speed modems which is what the Motorola Motorola NVG510 Voice Gateway is, have both network ports and the ability to connect to them wirelessly .

Is computer two connected to it via a network can ble, or via a wireless connection ?

"Question:
If I get this set will I be able to send Pics and docs from two to printer?
Able to send to drive with burner (burn disks )""

If the original device connected to Computer one is a combo router / high speed modem, you already had that capabilty, if you connect both computers to it via network cables.
The internet connection works for both computers automatically in that case. You have to set up a Local Network between the computers to be able transfer files between the computers.
By default, you copy files to a certain folder that's used for sharing files between the computers, but you can do things to add more options

If the original device connected to Computer one is a standalone high speed modem, that doesn't apply.

In that case, you can connect both computers to the Motorola NVG510
- via a network cable connection from each computer
- via one network cable connection and a wireless connection
- or via two wireless connections
and set up a Local Network so you can transfer files between the computers.

I'm in Alberta, Canada, Mountain Standard time, Daylight Savings, your time and this web site's time plus one hour.

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#25
May 22, 2012 at 19:09:46
I had dialup for years. When ATT laid their lines and high speed connection became available up here I signed up for the cheapest basic plan that they offered.
I wanted to have internet anf telephone at the same time and faster speed. (I't's still pretty slow)

At this point computer one was connected. I wanted to have internet on Two, so I went to Radio Shack looking for a cable to connect them.. The salesman said “ you want a wireless router”. Which I bought. It is AT&T NVG510 made by Motorola.
It is connected to the computer by cable.to the router
A wire, one end of which plugs into the router
The other end plugs into a pigtail with some sort of adapter that allows this line and a telephone line to plug into the wall telephone jack.
It has four ports that appear to be able to receive telephone lines ( No Idea what they would be used for) and five lights on the front
No one but me installed anything

I wanted to network the two units and called AT&T I was told they did not offer support for networking to a basic residential plan

Thus my question for you

The bottom line is: I have internet access on both computers and would like to network them
Hope this answers your questions and is not too much info and too long


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#26
May 22, 2012 at 23:37:31
The NVG510 "four ports that appear to be able to receive telephone lines" are the same shape as a telephone port, but they're larger and have 8 contacts inside of them instead of 2 or 4. They're for a network cable connection.

It has a type of DSL or ADSL high speed modem - that requires a connection to a telephone line that has DSL or ADSL equipment on the other end, usually at the nearest telephone exchange, and that you have paid for that service from your ISP (Internet Service Provider - AT&T by what you've said).
That's probably already there for Computer one's standalone modem, or combo router / high speed modem.

"A wire, one end of which plugs into the router
The other end plugs into a pigtail with some sort of adapter that allows this line and a telephone line to plug into the wall telephone jack."

You don't need to connect the telephone cable to boh the orginal high speed modem or combo router / high spped modem and the NVG510 - it only needs to be connected to the NVG510 (see below )

In most cases, you must have a DSL or ADSL filter inline in the telephone line between everything on the same telephone line connection EXCEPT the high speed modem or the combo router / high speed modem, to prevent the DSL or ADSL signal from causing problems with other things.
E.g. a dial up modem on a computer won't work unless there's such a filter in the phone line to it.

Connecting to a wireless router, or a wireless combo router / high speed modem, with a wireless network adapter is always optional.

If both computers have a wired network adapter that has had drivers installed for it in Windows, and if they are both close to the NVG510, simply connect a network cable between the network port on the computers and any network port on the NVG510 other than one labeled WAN, if it has that.
Both computers will then be able to connect to the internet, after the computers have been Restarted if they were running at the time.

You probably have a network cable that came with the NVG510
You probably have a network cable that came with the original high speed modem, or combo router / high speed modem
....

On BOTH computers....

To set up a Local Network between the computers in Windows, on BOTH computers, assuming they're both using XP

Start - My Network Places
On the left, choose
Set up a Home or small office Network

That starts up the Network Setup Wizard.
Choose Next

(the default) Yes, use the existing shared....
Next

Computer description - filling it in is optional
Computer name - that was determined when Windows was installed - it can be changed but you don't need to do that. The computer name of the two computers must be different.
Next

Name your network (also known as the Workgroup name)
Leave it set to MSHOME

It can be changed, but it changes back to MSHOME every time you use the wizard.
The name must be the same on all the computers you want to be on the same local network.
Next

File and Printer sharing
(the default) Turn on file and printer sharing

That must be enabled on all the computers in the Local network that you want to share those with.
In your case, if you have only one printer, it's easy to use that printer from both computers as long as the one it's connected to via a cable is running.
I can tell you more later if you're interested in doing that.
Next

Ready to apply network settings
Next

It will apply settings. When it's finished you'll see
Almost done

Select
Just finish the Wizard....
(You don't need to make a network disk when you have used simple or default settings)
Next

Finish.

You'll be prompted to restart the computer - do that.
.....

Confirm the local network is working.

Go to Windows Explorer.

Start - All Programs - Accessories.
RIGHT click on Windows Explorer - Send to - Desktop (create shortcut).
Then there will be a shortcut to Windows Explorer on your desktop screen

Click on that shortcut.
Scroll down the left side of the screen.

You should see a My Network Places folder
Open the folder.

You should see an Entire Network folder
Open the folder

Open the Microsoft Network folder
click on the MSHOME folder

On the right side of the screen you should see an icon, or two icons, that have the name of a computer on them.
Click on one of those.

Shared Docs is the default shared folder both computers can access when both are running.
If you click on that folder, there are several other shared folders in it

Shared Pictures, Shared Music, Shared Video

Your own user's My Documents folder has My Pictures, My Music, My Video sub-folders .



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#27
May 23, 2012 at 13:14:47
Somehow I think part of your post got erased. I'm pretty sure reading this last night that there was more. As it reads now your instructions end witth:

Shared Docs is the default shared folder both computers can access when both are running.
If you click on that folder, there are several other shared folders in it

If I am correct please resend. complete instructions so I can print them all at once

Also do I do the exact same things to TWO?


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#28
May 23, 2012 at 16:45:17
"Somehow I think part of your post got erased. I'm pretty sure reading this last night that there was more. As it reads now your instructions end witth:

Shared Docs is the default shared folder both computers can access when both are running.
If you click on that folder, there are several other shared folders in it "

That's as I left it.

It was nearly 12:38 pm where I am when I finished that.

It was time to go to bed. I figured I could tell you more today.

However, I added a bit more to it now.

Sometimes when I type directly in the post, when it's long, sometimes I notice I lose part of the text, for reasons unknown, but in the case of that one, it was typed in Notepad and only slightly modified after I pasted the text from that into the post.

I also have this habit lately of pressing some key unintentionally that I haven't identified yet that causes a small window to pop up at the left top of IE that causes IE to freeze. I can get out of that by pressing Alt-Ctrl-Del to pop up Task Manager and choosing to close one instance of iexplore.exe, but if I choose the wrong one I lose all of the text in the post I was making that wasn't already saved, sometimes the entire text.
.....

"Also do I do the exact same things to TWO?"

For the Local Network, yes.
.....

I assumed that the two computers were close enough to each other and the router that they could both connect to the NVG510 with network cables you already have.

If one is farther away...

- you could use a longer network cable, if that's feasible, e.g. if they're in the same room and the cable would not be a problem to string and NOT be where someone would object to it's location. .
( I used a really long network cable that goes from the basement to an upstairs bedroom for one computer, the ceiling downstairs has a suspended ceiling that makes stringing above that okay, but you probably wouldn't want to do something like that. I did that when wireless hardware was still much more expensive.)

- or - you could buy an inexpensive wireless N USB or PCI adapter for one computer, and use that to connect to the NVG510 wirelessly, but that's more complicated to get working, and a network cable connection is always more reliable than a wireless connection. .
.....

You can set up Windows so that all the computers in the local network are mapped onto every computer - that makes other computers easier to access, but you get nag messages when not all the computers are running.

You can make changes that make other locations on the other computer easier to access.



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#29
May 23, 2012 at 19:46:48
Drat Drat and Double Drat
Went to print out your instructions and my ink cartdridge quit on me. Just ordered new on EBay but it will take several days, maybe even a week So
I'll probably not be back to you til then
I want to have in front of me so I can do it right the first time
But I'm confused
Do I need a physical or other connection to TWO beyond being able to connect to internet?
I only go to town once a month on 3rd or so (I'ts about 30 miles) So if I need a cable I could maybe pick it up then A cable would not be my first choice if other options are feasable

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#30
May 23, 2012 at 21:11:29
By the way, I often Edit my own post many times. If you happen to look at my post when I'm still doing that you may need to refresh the page to see the latest version of it.
Look at the day and time at the start of the post.
If the day is the same and the time is a half hour or less before the time you're looking at it, I may still be Editing the post.
...

I have ink refill kits for both of my printers. I rarely buy new cartridges. The newer printer's cartridges require that I use a chip re-setter device.
....

You could copy the contents of the post to Notepad, save the file, then look at that file.

The Network Setup Wizard displays in a smaller non-expandable window.
You can have both the Notepad file and the Network Setup Wizard displayed on the same screen without one of them being obstructed by the other, if the Notepad window is not full screen. You can easily change the size of the Notepad window if it is too big when not full screen. and move it's position on the screen.

If you don't use Notepad much, Format at the top of the Notepad window should be set to Word wrap (a check mark appears beside it) .
..........

"Do I need a physical or other connection to TWO beyond being able to connect to internet?"

Only the NVG510 needs to be connected to the telephone line.
You can't set up a Local Network between the two computers, or at least you can't do that easily even if you have another router or combo router / high speed modem connected to Computer One, unless they're connected to the same router, or the same combo router / high speed modem which is what the NVG510 is.
The NVG510 will provide the internet connection to whatever connects to it, via a network cable, or via a wireless network adapter on the computer.
....

You have made very few comments about what I said in response 26 and 28.

Where are the two computers ?

Are they in the same room ?

Can they be physically placed close enough to the NVG510 to be connected via network cables you probably already have ?
(You could buy a longer network cable later if you need to.)

Both computers probably already have a wired network adapter - a port on the outside of the computer that looks like a larger telephone port.

The NVG510 probably came with a ~ 6 foot or longer network cable.

You haven't said what Computer One is connected to.

Computer One is probably connected to a standalone high speed modem via a network cable, or less likely a usb cable,

- or the standalone high speed modem is connected to a standalone non wireless router via a network cable, the router is connected to the computer via a network cable

- or a combo non-wireless router / high speed modem is connected to the computer via a network cable.

That or those cables are probably ~6 feet or longer

" - or - you could buy an inexpensive wireless N USB or PCI adapter for one computer, and use that to connect to the NVG510 wirelessly, but that's more complicated to get working, and a network cable connection is always more reliable than a wireless connection. "



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#31
May 24, 2012 at 22:22:36
+If I had known networking these two would be such a chalenge I wouldn't have pursued it. I thought that once I had the NVG router and had the ability to be online with both at the same time that it would be a simple matter of settings within both computers allowing them to comunicate with each other.
The computers are about 20 ft apart. Using a cable would require the cable to lay on the floor and pass through a door which could not then be closed. At my age I don't need another thing to trip over. so I'll pass on that
One is connected to the NVG with the only cable that I have.
the NVG router is the only router that I have
I don't even remember how one was connected to the net before I got NVG

The only port that I see that fits the description of wired network adapter is the one that is being used to connect NVG with computer

I find it hard to believe that offices with numerous computers have cables running everywhere
Doing this wirelessly my be more expensive than I can afford
Having them networked would be nice but I can install a DVD Rw burner on two- then burn and hand carry anything I want to print.or place in files on One
Thanks agiain for all your input


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#32
May 24, 2012 at 23:30:28
"Computer One is connected to internet by telephone wire using UVerse which is ATT broadband, I don't know the speed
Computer two is via wireless router"

"the NVG router is the only router that I have "

It's a combo router / high speed modem

Computer one must be, or used to be, connected to a standalone high speed modem via a network cable, or less likely a USB cable, if the connection to the internet for that computer is broadband (high speed).

"The only port that I see that fits the description of wired network adapter is the one that is being used to connect NVG with computer"

Yes, that's right.

Computer one has one too, or it doesn't have one ?

"The NVG510 "four ports that appear to be able to receive telephone lines" are the same shape as a telephone port, but they're larger and have 8 contacts inside of them instead of 2 or 4. They're for a network cable connection."

You can connect each computer to it via a wired connection, to any network port except one labeled WAN, or via a wireless connection.

"The computers are about 20 ft apart. Using a cable would require the cable to lay on the floor and pass through a door which could not then be closed."

"I find it hard to believe that offices with numerous computers have cables running everywhere "

They're either inside the walls, or are inside metal or plastic ducts in the room. or in the floor

Then connect one computer via a wireless connection.
They're close enough to the router that the wireless signal would be strong, unless there's a lot of metal between the computer with the wireless adapter and the NVG510.

"Doing this wirelessly my be more expensive than I can afford"

USB wireless adapters are not expensive, and if you don't mind ordering from eBay, it's easy to order it from the web.

E.g,. the Newegg web site has it's physical headquarters in California.
Their shipping is fast.

Examples of wireless adapters.
http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCate...

Each one has customer ratings.

I recommend this one that I have, and that two friends have three of:

ASUS USB-N13 Wireless Adapter
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

The software on the CD that comes with it has bugs, but the Asus web site has a newer version that works very well.

I can tell you exactly what you need to do to get it working, and I can look at exactly what you'll see on one of my own computers.

I found a manual on the web for your NVG510.

http://www.ron-berman.com/wp-conten...



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#33
May 24, 2012 at 23:42:14
I'll have to wait until after the 3rd of next month month to buy anything.
If I go to EBay, exactly what should I search for?
Will the ASUS USB-N13 Wireless Adapter
be sold there? I want the cheapest possible but naturally I want something that works

So I need this adapter in addition to the NVG510 ?


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#34
May 24, 2012 at 23:56:36
If I were you I would order it from the Newegg web site, not eBay. You can pay with a credit card or a Paypal account.

I'm recommended the Asus one because I KNOW it's reliable, and you'll see in the ad that it's cheaper than it used to be.

If you can't pay with a credit card or a Paypal account, then you can probably buy the same model on eBay somewhere. If not, you could use the customer ratings on the Newegg web site to determine which brand and model on eBay that you can buy is better rated.

A Paypal account can be set up to draw from a bank account, or to use a credit card.


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#35
May 25, 2012 at 00:01:33
Don't know if you saw my edit.
So do I need this adapter in addition to the NVG510
I have a Pay Pal account but it needs money in the bank O I get hit with whooping overdraft charges

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#36
May 25, 2012 at 00:07:30
"So do I need this adapter in addition to yhe NVG510 "

YES, if you don't want to use another network cable to have both computers connected to the NVG510.


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#37
May 25, 2012 at 00:11:59
OK I hope this conversation can continue in a week or so
Will this thread still be avaiilable in a week or so?. Would hate to lose contact with you

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#38
May 25, 2012 at 00:17:38
It will be here in a week and for longer than that, but eventually you won't be able post in it - probably several months from now.
I still have links to topics here I particpated in that are at least several years old. So far none of them have been lost.

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#39
May 25, 2012 at 00:43:36
This forum probably should not be used for personal reflections but:
When I was stationed in the Army in Hawaii in the 1950”s I met a school teacher from Alberta. She was 100% Canadian and extolled all it’s virtues. I came away with unrelenting itch to see Banff.
About 35 yrs ago My wife and two youngens flew from San Francisco to Calgary We rented a car and drove to Banff and Lake Louise. We took a lift to the top of a mountain to see the spectacular views. River rafted and partook of what ever was offered in the summertime. We stayed overnight at a beautiful historic old hotel, I wish I could remember the name. I’m not even sure it was in Banff. We then drove up to Regina
What a wonderful week it was. I was especially impressed with the greenish water with white sparkling foam flowing in the rivers after coming off a glacier
.
My wife and I talked afterword about the possibilities of opening a business in Banff. Nothing came of it
Hope you indulge my fond remembrances

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#40
May 25, 2012 at 08:38:37
The Banff Springs ?
http://www.fairmont.com/banffsprings/

If yes, it had a different name when you were there. It was owned by the Canadian Pacific Railway back then.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banff_...

"My wife and I talked afterword about the possibilities of opening a business in Banff. Nothing came of it"

If you had done that you would have done very well.
It's a favourite destination of Japanese tourists these days, as well of Canadians, Americans, Germans , Chinese mostly from Hong Kong, etc., probably in that order of numbers of them.

There are many German tourists who were so impressed that they decided to move to the Canadian Rockies, or to B.C. to the west of it which is mostly mountains, and start up a small business of some sort, many of which are on the major highways.

Where I live it's a bit closer to drive to Jasper National Park, but I've been to both Jasper and Banff many times. I used to ski at Marmot near Jasper when I was much younger. I've never stayed at the Banff Springs, or the Chateau Lake Louise which isn't far from Banff, or the Jasper Park Lodge, though - we / I couldn't afford that.
The highway to Jasper was not a paved road until long after WW2, and was not a divided highway until the late 60's or so.

We don't have much left regarding passenger trains in the west, but you can still go to Jasper on the federally owned Via train (coast to coast) , and to Banff on the privately owned Rocky Mountaineer which is much more expensive (western Canada only).

The Icefields Parkway was a crude road between Banff and Jasper back then, but since then it was improved to a be modern two lane highway. The mountains along the continental divide in that stretch of the Rockies are right beside the highway to the west. I love driving down that road. There's very little development on it.
I can remember it being closed in the winter sometimes when there was too much snow on it, but one of the effects of global warming is that rarely happens now.
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#41
May 25, 2012 at 19:29:09
I checked out the links for the Banff springs hotel. Yes that is where we stayed. Money was not a concern for me then. I had a successful Real Estate Brokerage and auction company selling residential and ranch properties and auctioning everything from exotic birds to throughbred horses to farm and construction equipment.
Many bad decisions later, I get by on Social Security and a small veterans pension.
You might be interested in knowing that the COLLOU of my user name and email stands for Colonel Lou. Most auctioneers were called Colonel, an honorary title. I was actually a SGT in the army

The hotel is truly a special place. I rented a golf cart (I’m not a golfer) and drove the course with my eight year old son. I wanted to build memories for him.

As I recall, there weren’t too many businesses in Banff then. There was a vacant location near the totem poles. I make a wicked pot of chilli. Our thought was for a walkup- take out operation selling a container of chilli with a pint of milk or a shake of some flavor. We thought this might hit the spot with young skiers coming off the slopes.
It was only a pipe dream and probably wouldn’t have worked or generated enough money to be feasible. On top of that our 16 year old daughter strongly resisted any idea of a disruption in her life.
We decided it would be foolish to give up what we had for a risky gamble in the far north, beautiful as it might be. But the idea still intrigues me.

.I guess we are in a cycle of global warming. When I was a sophomore in high school 65 years ago the big scare then was that we were entering an ice age. All sorts of dire prophesies were made. One of my teachers advocated using the fairly new atomic bomb to bomb the North Pole to melt the building ice cap that some suggested might be growing so heavy as to cause the earth to tip with terrible results. There is a saying “this too shall pass” Perhaps it applies here.


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#42
May 25, 2012 at 21:01:06
My Dad, who's 86 now, was training in the RCAF (Air Force) when WW2 ended. He worked for Alberta Government Telephones, which became Telus later, until he took an early retirement package.
His brother, a year older, he's no longer with us, was in the RCN (Navy) and stayed in it after the war until mandatory retirement age. He was trained after the war as an Engineer, he designed port facilities, and was stationed in Halifax, Nova Scotia, then California for a while when I was a kid, then Ottawa, Ontario. He was a Vice Admiral when he retired at 55 ? He had his own Engineering business after that.
As for myself, I was in the RCAC (Air Cadets) - 16 to 19 - got to Sgt. , but that was mostly because I kept at it for three years and never missed a weekly session during the school year.

There was a totem pole that stood for many, many years in the Jasper townsite near where you get on and off the passenger train. It was taken down about three years ago because the bottom of it was rotten and it was considered a safely hazard. Eventually a new one was carved and painted up by the same native people in B.C. who made the original totem pole, and it was erected at or near the same spot , last year.

Home at Last -- The Jasper Raven Totem Pole
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2Px...

Jasper's new totem pole - CTV Edmonton (July 8, 2011)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9X0_...

Totem Pole Rising
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GS_R...


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#43
May 25, 2012 at 22:33:12
My only other trip into Canada was 45 years ago when my son was a baby. We drove up the California coast to Port Angeles in Washington. Then took the ferry across to the beautiful city of Vancouver. A religious denomination was in town for the weekend so everything was packed and not as pleasant as I would have wished We only stayed the one day. I wish we could have stayed longer and driven farther into the mountains. The memory that remains with me is the vine covered hotel?

You should, as I’m sure you are, be very proud of your relatives and your service in the military. Becoming a Vice Admiral is a singular achievement and you hanging in there to become Sgt in a non wartime period is no small thing either.

I am very prejudiced in favor of people with military experience. All my three brothers served. The oldest in the merchant marines in WW2. An older brother was in Korea and was awarded the bronze star. I was in during the Korean war also but never made it to combat. My younger brother served 4 years in the Navy. My son in the Navy Sea Bees Reserve All of us enlisted.

As harsh as it may sound, I think something was lost when the draft was discontinued.
Then young people were forced out of conditions that today they can’t escape. I think it did great things for race relations and gave them pride in having served their country. Our all enlisted military are exceptional patriots but I think our country would be better off if every young person served at least 2 years. And as they say “had some skin in the game” They would be taught discipline and learn how to deal with people of all kinds.

During WW1 there was a song whose lines went “ How you gonna keep em down on the farm after they’ve seen gay Paree” There aren’t that many on the farms today but there are those in the inner cities who would benefit by seeing the world. . If young peoples horizons could be expanded I think it would benefit everyone and make them want to strive to improve themselves or their lot in life.

I know politically. the draft will probably not come back but I think it would be good if it did.

P>S I thought sure the totem pole/s? I'm referring to was in Banff I can't ask my wife, I lost her almost 12 yrs ago


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#44
May 26, 2012 at 00:01:13
The only time I've been to the US was when I was twelve. My grandmother (Dad's Ma) and I went to Vancouver B.C. on the train, we stayed in a old place called the Ailsa Lodge or similar that my grandfather (her husband) had stayed in when he was working in an airplane factory during the war, we went on the ferry to Vancouver Island and to Victoria, then went back and then went on the greyhound bus to Seattle. It was not long after the World's Fair was in Seattle - we visited the Space Needle. Came back on the train. There was passenger train service to nearly anywhere in Canada back then.
Side notes. The stainless steel passenger cars we rode in then were falrly new at that time. We went to Vancouver on the Via train a couple years ago and found they're still using those same cars now, on the Via trains that go coast to coast. They've been upgraded with better suspension (air cushioned), air conditioning, and toilets that are like those on an airplane - they no longer dump between the tracks when you flush them (the sign "Please do not flush the toilet when the train is at the station" or similar is no longer in the washroom).
The year before my grandmother had taken by brother, two years younger than me, to California - my Uncle's family was there. She couldn't afford to do that for me too, but that was okay.

I have no problem with discipline, as long as it's reasonable. I was never a "brown noser" when I was in Air Cadets, or for that matter, for anything else.

It seems to me there are a lot more younger people that are irresponsible these days than when I was younger.

In Isreal, nearly all younger males are required to serve in the military at one time or another. In a documemtary I saw, they said a military coup or a civil war could never be successful in Isreal because they're not going to willingly harm anyone who's been in their own military service.

"P>S I thought sure the totem pole/s? I'm referring to was in Banff "

The railways placed them in many places. There probably were / are some in Banff too.
I just thought you might like the info about the one in Jasper, which may be the only one there.


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#45
May 26, 2012 at 00:55:13
I don’t know how old you are but I suspect that if you lived in the US, you would be considered of the flower generation. In that case I agree young people now might be more responsible. But we still have a long way to go. My feeling is that we here have lost a good deal of our moral and ethical direction. Children born to single mothers far out number those born in a traditional marriage. The divorce rate is unbelievable and the acceptable language of every day discourse has deteriorated to a point of disgust for me.
We msy be seeing a modest resurgence of respectibility but that is dismissed by the liberal press as being "far right"

I don’t know but I would be surprised if that were the case in Canada.

I’m really worried about what is happening in my country. I was taught that the Roman Empire fell from rot within. I’m afraid that this insidious rot is occurring here and no one is paying attention

I know I would be considered an ”old turd” as we used to say on the ranch, if evaluated by others today but that doesn’t make me wrong.



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#46
May 26, 2012 at 08:43:54
As I said in response 19, I'm 60, I could have been a "flower child" or "hippy" but I was / am a "loner" and never got into that, and very few people I knew got into that. Sure, there were lots of people my age back then who had long hair, smoked pot, etc., a few of them did the "free love" thing, but most of then weren't otherwise dishonest or irresponsible or selfish.

"My feeling is that we here have lost a good deal of our moral and ethical direction."
etc.
I certainly agree with that.

The same things that happen in the US tend to happen some years later in Canada to a lesser extent. The Christian principles and common sense morals most people used to abide by have gone out the window for a lot more younger people these days.
We have the worst drivers in Alberta in all of Canada. Partially due to inadequate funding for traffic enforcement that has gone on for too many years, far more people speed than in the past - some people do it everywhere they go. Frequent "hiit and runs".


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#47
May 31, 2012 at 23:59:41
Do you know of a free program that you can reccommend to remove duplicate files?. I have many- pictures, my own writings, music

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#48
June 1, 2012 at 07:17:55
Search the web using: remove duplicate files in XP
or similar.

e.g.

Best Free Duplicate File Detector
http://www.techsupportalert.com/bes...

Some of those are relatively small.

Remove clutter with Windows XP SP2's Duplicate Finder tool
http://www.techrepublic.com/article...


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#49
July 17, 2012 at 19:11:33
Hi
Just wanted to say Hello and keep this thread open. I treasure your knowledge and advice and would like to contact you again when I need help
Lou

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#50
July 23, 2012 at 00:42:58
Well I finally got around to taking a CD Rom out of computer #1 and put in # 2 .
I put the regular CD Rom into #1
NOW i have no power to #1 .Nothing turns on except the printer I have, I think secured all plugins and power cord.
What could I have done wrong and is there a fix? I don/t know what to do and almost all my valuabe files are on #1
Please help if you can
Lou

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