Restoring to Dell or non dell pcs

June 27, 2009 at 13:04:41
Specs: Windows XP, 2Gb
Windows is usually linked to the current hardware and also OEM codes, etc.
If I was to restore a current backup to a different Dell PC/laptop, would it work?
If I was to restore a current backup to a different make of PC/laptop, would it work?

I'm assuming Windows would work but then fail on the next update and you would have to contact Microsoft to get a new code?

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June 27, 2009 at 19:58:25
This will ONLY work if the mother boards and hardware are identical. You 'might' get lucky and be able to boot and windows 'might' find and replace the appropriate drivers for the new hardware but I would STRONGLY recommend against it.

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June 28, 2009 at 01:36:46
What's the point of a backup then if your:
-hard drive fails
-laptop gets stolen

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June 28, 2009 at 05:17:44
I'm sorry, I should have been a bit more specific. A hard drive change will not cause any trouble if you are doing a restore from a backup. (So long as the new drive is large enough to hold everything)

There are different types of backup programs. If you are backing up data only, then moving that data to another machine will not cause problems.

Each machine when windows is installed, along with other application builds a specific registry and driver base for that computer.

You can't expect a backup of hardware device drivers for a Pentium IV say, to work with a quad core CPU and hardware. In addition, you have the constant change in slot type, PCI, PCI Xpress, CNR, AGP etc etc that vary from machine to machine depending on the time it was built.

The point in a backup is usually to restore your current computer to a previous state so as to minimize DATA loss.

If your car is stolen, you wouldn't use the repair book for the old car on your new one of a different make and model, for instance, as a guide on how to replace the alternator would you?

Windows does have a nice utility however called the file and settings transfer wizard (In the system tools section) that you can use to move your files etc to another machine.

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June 28, 2009 at 05:25:44
Is it not possible to restore the image to a new computer and then run the Windows Install CD to repair and replace all the drivers on the first install?
I guess a ghosted image AND a separate file backup is useful then. The ghosted image in case your hard drive fails.
The files backup in case everything breaks or it gets stolen and then you have to fully reinstall but at least you have some of your old files.

Acronis have something called Universtal Restore.
Wat do you think:

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June 29, 2009 at 03:09:00
if you have a windows install disk what the problem just install windows with the oem number from the other machine whch should be a little sticker somewhere on the case

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June 29, 2009 at 03:36:16
Because it's Dell, they don't give you a Windows disk and all their Windows software is locked to the hardware you buy.

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June 29, 2009 at 06:49:46
if you put cd in will it not start loading on to the new computor

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June 29, 2009 at 07:56:44
Apparently Windows won't work on a new computer because of the OEM. Acronis say they have software that will help change all the drivers. If it's just a case of changing the drivers wouldn't tarnsferring a ghost image and then running an XP repair do the job?

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June 29, 2009 at 08:17:44

I don't know about Acronis but with Ghost 2003 any change in hardware can cause the restore to fail. For that reason, anytime you add hardware you should image again.

Adding software after an image generally will not trash a restore. Of course the new software will not longer be there and will require a new installation of the software.

There are TWO reasons to image partitions. First one is to have a second copy of personal data. The second one is to make it easier to restore your computer to the same state it was in when the image was created.

That can save you a ton of time.

If you install the OS and just a few key programs on the C partition and the remainder of the programs on a second partition it is possible to image and restore either or both of those partitions independently. When following that plan restoring either partition will allow the programs to work correctly.

You can see how that saves time and effort when imaging. The OS partition will change more often than the program partition.

Finally, person files can be kept on a third partition which doesn't need to be imaged but simply backed up. For the most part, your personal files are already compressed and usually are not keyed to the OS.

Concerning your statement about not receiving disks with your computer. You are supposed to create your own disks when you first get the computer. You shoud still be able to do that and you should.

Those disks will restore the computer to FACTORY settings, which is useful when you want to dispose of the computer. Also, if your hard drive dies and you need to install a new one.

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June 29, 2009 at 08:27:46
It's not so much the same computer that I'm worried about. It's what happens if my laptop gets stolen.
I then buy a new laptop. Apparently I can't just put the old image onto the new laptop because all the drivers have to be changed.
So, how come Windows can't just repair the drivers in the new image?

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June 29, 2009 at 10:12:59
If you buy a new computer the hardware AND software on it will be different. May not even be the same OS.

The only items you need to worry about are your personal data, which you should be backing up continuously.

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June 30, 2009 at 01:04:50
What about all the programs that would take ages to reinstall?
Software keys that I've forgotten, etc.
Surely there must be a way to install an image on a laptop with new hardware?

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June 30, 2009 at 04:37:49
I think you need to get a handle on the larger picture here.

First of all, Microsoft is in the business of selling operating systems. The arrangement MS currently has with the major OEM vendors calls for OEMs to install Windows on their new computers for very little cash. In return for any deep discounts two conditions exist.

First one is that the OEM provide any technical support required.

Second is that the license for that copy of Windows is only good for THAT exact computer. It can't legally be moved to any other computer.

This works for both parties. MSoft sells millions of copies of Windows and the OEMs sell computers with Windows for what it would cost you to assemble one WITHOUT the copy of Windows. The same arrangement applies to any bundled software.

In the past the movement of these licenses was not closely monitored. Now MS is proactive so you can' readily use a license from your old computer to the new.

I think you can see where that is in MSoft's best interest.

Now on to software. Current versions of Windows do not allow any software to have direct control of the hardware. That means that the hardware is controlled by Windows and any use of it must go through Windows.

This is accomplished primarily my the means of drives and dynamic link libraries (dll). So, software must be installed to each individual computer and Windows must configure things in order for the software to function.

This is also mutually beneficial to the software vendor and to MSoft.

This is also beneficial to the end user. You are protected by Windows so that software can't break the system as it did back in the Win95/98 days. Additionally there is the malicious software to deal with.

All the above is a simplification of the process but you can see why you can't do what you want to. No one but you and the hackers want things to work like that.

As far as you personal issues with passwords, shortcuts, etc. That is why pencil and paper are still handy. It isn't any different than if your computer had a hardware failure. You are still in that same boat. A computer is not a toaster.

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