Really slow start-up

Hewlett-packard / Pc098a-aba m1070n
August 30, 2010 at 09:37:47
Specs: Windows XP,SP3, 1.86 GHz, 704 MB Ram
Seems like this started when I got off of dial-up and on to wireless internet connection. Once my computer is up and running, the speed is better than any I've had, but for the first 30-45 minutes after I turn my computer on it really, really drags ... like there's something running in the background that has to go through its routine before anything else will be allowed to run. It's not just using the internet, it's using the computer period during that time that is really s-l-o-w. After that initial time, it zips along just fine. I have run a spyware scan and anti-virus scan and defrag and I have turned off auto updates on my virus software and adware ... my anti-virus software updates frequently and I thought maybe it was running a download everytime I turned on my computer. I am so tempted to just leave my computer on all the time, but don't really like to do that for a variety of reasons. Doesn't seem like this was such a problem before wireless, but it's been going on so long I'm not sure. Any ideas, anyone? thanks in advance

Katrinka


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#1
August 30, 2010 at 10:13:24
"like there's something running in the background"

That's probably what it is. Download & install CCleaner-Slim. Run both the Cleaner & the Registry scanner...remove everything they find. Then click Tools > Startup...review the list of programs that automatically load everytime the system is booted.

http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/bu...


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#2
August 30, 2010 at 11:04:28
Also, when you first turn on the computer; open up task manager and sort the columns by memory usage and see if you can id which one(s) are using the most.

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#3
August 31, 2010 at 08:50:47
Hello, thank you everyone, I have done several things since yesterday. I checked on previous posts on here about slow start up and one said to empty prefetch folder, which I did. I also downloaded CCleaner and ran the cleaner and registry and removed all of those items. And I had already done a virus and spyware scan and a defrag. During startup I checked the task manager and there were 66 processes running. The biggest one was sychost.exe SYSTEM using 160,000 + k and most of the others were quite small ... 1,000 or a little more. Then they all gradually spread out until the sychost.exe was just average (most are around 25,000 to 30,000 with a few very small ones). I googled some of the larger ones and they all seem legitimate except some say they could be legitimate or they could be worms or viruses, etc. Since my virus scan came out OK, I figure they are not worms or viruses. I guess I don't know if ALL these things need to be jostling together during startup?? If not, I don't know which ones to turn off and if turning them off will damage other functions on my machine or how to turn them off. Maybe I should just get up an hour earlier and turn on my machine so it's ready when I am! :-) I should add that I don't do a lot of fun stuff on my machine, like games or videos or movies or such. Just checkin' out the news, answering emails, and taking care of business. I have a friend/tech guy that used to help me before we moved here and he is now experimenting with remote assistance, so may need to contact him. Any other ideas would be helpful, and thanks in advance...

Katrinka


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#4
August 31, 2010 at 08:51:50
Oops, forgot to say, it's still starting slow and doesn't seem to show any improvement after these efforts.

Katrinka


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#5
August 31, 2010 at 09:29:51
is your anti-virus set to scan on each startup??

larry


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#6
August 31, 2010 at 11:52:35
Emptying prefetch is a myth that has been copied from website to website.
http://home.comcast.net/~supportcd/...

Make sure you haven't any unnecessary programs running - see all items next to clock.

Ms Hulot goes horse riding


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#7
August 31, 2010 at 11:54:48
Larryf215, No, not on start up of the computer. When I open the anti-virus software, it tests the start-up menu and the memory, but I only open the software when I'm getting ready to do a scan. Nothing on my computer is set to operate automatically, as far as I'm aware, but its set to notify me of available updates and I decide when I scan or update something. Perhaps it is still scanning for available updates even though it doesn't download automatically? Maybe I should change settings to let me search manually for updates? I don't really think that's the primary problem, as I've operated this way for years, unless maybe there's been a change in how these programs search for updates. Thanks for the thought, it's something I had already considered, because when I initially installed my anti-virus, it was downloading updates automatically and that did occur almost everytime I booted up the machine.

Katrinka


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#8
August 31, 2010 at 11:59:33
Well, Derek, I wondered about that prefetch thingy, as there was a caution to not clean it out too often or it would increase start-up time ... even though I was supposed to clean it out to decrease start-up time! It didn't have any affect one way or the other!

Katrinka


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#9
August 31, 2010 at 15:00:49
Katrinka I would recommend the following;

1. run chkdsk /f on the drive from a command prompt, answer yes to the question and then reboot so it runs. This checks for drive inconsistancies.
2. run disk cleanup off the system tools menu
3. run defragmentor off the same menu

Since this started after you went from dialup to wireless internet I would suggest you post the results of an ipconfig /all for review.

Bootup will take longer with wireless authenication which preceeds getting a dhcp ip address but if you have a bad dns entry this can cause delays due to name resolution.


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#10
August 31, 2010 at 19:07:57
You might care to browse this similar post for ideas too:
http://www.computing.net/answers/wi...

By the way, prefetch is nicely explained in the link I gave you in #6 (just over half way down in "Prefetch - Folder Cleaning).

Ms Hulot goes horse riding


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#11
September 2, 2010 at 15:57:29
Hello, all, thanks for your help! I have done a defrag and a clean up using system tools, also the drive check which I guess was OK ... it didn't say there was a problem or no, it just ran through everything. ?? I also looked at some previous posts as suggested by Derek and went in and totally disabled everything on my startup and tried that. It seemed to start up faster, but kept flashing up that I should select normal start up or something ... I tried to ipconfig / all but the display won't stay up long enough for me to read to copy. How do I post a copy of this? Just highlight, copy and paste on here? When I run ipconfig / all it just biefly flashes up with white letters on a black background and then is gone. I am wondering, too, if this has to do with the wireless internet somehow ... my computer makes a lot of noise sometimes, not from the fan, but like the computer is working?? Clickety clackety, ya know? Especially after startup until it gets through the first 30-45 minutes. Then it's usually real quiet and mostly I just hear the fan slightly.

If you can tell me how to post the results of my ipconfig / all I will do so. Sorry it is taking me so long to respond. I have a boat load of apples to pick and can and it takes forever for me to get into here when I reboot.

Thanks for all your help ... I may just need to get a pro to look at this hands on. If no one can think of any more ideas, that's OK, and I will post back if I get this figured out.

Katrinka


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#12
September 2, 2010 at 16:29:37
If you disable anything in msconfig (assuming that's what you meant) you will always get a message but it has a tick box so that you can tell it not to bother you until next time you use it. There are bound to be some necessary items in Startup so it's best to check to ensure the essential ones are running. If you are getting someone to look at it then it would be best to re-tick all the entries again.

The ipconfig command is only for Internet but normally the black box stays up.

There are rather a lot of possibilities so it might be a bit tricky to sort from afar. Are you using a router - if so are there other machines using it?

Ms Hulot goes horse riding


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#13
September 2, 2010 at 20:56:59
Derek, thanks for the return post. Yes, I do have a laptop and both machines are hooked up via wire to the router right now, but laptop is usually not on. I did disable everything at startup and went around the popups and rebooted a couple times to see how it worked. It seemed to warm up a little faster, but eventually would get to going through the same routine again and drag everything down for until it was done doing what it was doing. I am going to continue to try to see the ipconfig and will post back with that if I'm able. I know this is complicated. It's probably some small thing and possibly my internet connection. My friend/tech guy in another state has offered to do some work remotely, and I'm probably going to take him up on that. I'll post back with what we discover. Thanks again ...

Katrinka


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#14
September 3, 2010 at 10:53:59
Ooops my typing went hayware on the last post - weird word should have been "possibilities" (now edited).

Is your laptop working OK on the same router?

Internet troubles do not usually slow down the whole machine so it might have been a coincidence. Is it any different if you unplug the connection?

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#15
October 9, 2010 at 09:40:12
Well, I am back, and after doing some trial and error I'm thinking that the problem is the anti-virus update. It updates frequently, and immediately after updating seems to draw a lot of memory for a time. I can hear the hard drive running constantly and then after some time all is quiet and my computer speeds up again. This is not so bad when the computer is already up and running, but when I had the anti-virus updates set to update automatically (instead of just notifying me of updates available) it would immediately start to download and install updates as soon as I turned my computer on, since my computer is now always online if it is on at all since we have wireless internet. Now I immediately receive notification that an update is available, and if I immediately click to download it, everything is all jammed up right away. But if I wait until later in the day and download the anti-virus update, it's a minor problem.

All my other updates (windows, etc.) are set the same way, to notify me when they are available and then to download when I tell them to download. So the anti-virus could be the only problem.

We'll see how this goes, but I'm thinking it's done the trick. Thanks for all your help, everyone.

Katrinka


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#16
October 9, 2010 at 12:39:44
Thx for update.

What AV are you using?

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#17
October 11, 2010 at 07:33:58
Avast free ware. I used to use System Suite Pro for many, many years and was quite happy. However, when I moved here all I had was dial-up for over a year and could NOT download updates at 56k, the System Suite site would disconnect me. So a friend recommended Avast as he said it was more friendly to slower speeds, and it has been great, only it updates quite frequently (probably to avoid huge downloads that take forever??) and it is free. I used to own a business, and spent a lot of time online and had a bunch of sensitive stuff on my machine. I live a different life now, and this seems to work OK for me.

Katrinka


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#18
October 11, 2010 at 08:37:58
Thx for feedback.

I was only wondering whether it might have been one of those bloated and often troublesome monsters like Norton or McAfee. Avast is just fine.

Keep us posted.

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#19
October 11, 2010 at 11:29:42
Derek, I have used both Norton and McAfee in the past ... bleah! :) Thanks, I'll keep in touch.

Katrinka


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