Problem removing old video adapter

July 21, 2010 at 11:10:58
Specs: Windows XP, 4000+ / 2gb
I have a rather strange problem and it's driving me crazy, when I boot my machine from COLD boot after it's been powered off for 15 minutes, my computer reverts and tries to use an old driver from the Gigabyte NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GS even though it was un-installed correctly.

Now here's the weird part, if I do a warm reboot the correct driver is visible and everything is fine.

Below I am going to post 2 entries the first is from the cold boot and the second is from the warm boot notice the difference, my question is how can I get rid of this entry that's causing the problem? Note I already tried deleting all the Nvidia files and after installing my new card fresh their are features missing such as the menu display screens in 3Dmark03 AND THE GIRL in 3DMARK is bald, I had to restore my Drive C: from a DVD backup to get it back, also I loose full screen acceleration in flash video screens such as youtube, what I need is a fix to remove just the incorrect Gigabyte 7600 GS driver entry or patch it to point to the right registers.

Under the Registers the bad entry is
nv-0015B4 08001988 Where does this reside ?

This report came from EVEREST so I don't know where this data is stored!!!!

Notice the inconsistencies in cold boot system information, this conflict was caused by forcing windows to install the correct driver, yet it is still a mismatch on cold boot and often crashes the PC. I fear the entries might be stored in a solid state memory chip please tell me I'm wrong ?

****** COLD BOOT AFTER 15 Minutes Approx *****
OLD DRIVER CAN'T GET RID OF .....

Video Adapter Properties:
Device Description NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GS
Adapter String GeForce 7600 GS
BIOS String Version 5.71.22.42.3E
Chip Type GeForce 7600 GS
DAC Type Integrated RAMDAC
Memory Size 512 MB

Installed Drivers:
nv4_disp 6.14.11.9621 - nVIDIA ForceWare 196.21

Graphics Processor Properties:
Video Adapter nVIDIA GeForce 7900 GS AGP
BIOS Version 5.71.22.42.3E
GPU Code Name G71GSAGP
PCI Device 10DE-02E3 / 1462-3E20 (Rev A2)
Transistors 278 million
Process Technology 90 nm
Die Size 196 mm2
Bus Type AGP 8x @ 8x
Memory Size 512 MB
GPU Clock (Geometric Domain) 418 MHz (original: 420 MHz)
GPU Clock (Shader Domain) 398 MHz (original: 400 MHz)
GPU Clock (ROP Domain) 398 MHz (original: 400 MHz)
RAMDAC Clock 400 MHz
Pixel Pipelines 20
TMU Per Pipeline 1
Vertex Shaders 7 (v3.0)
Pixel Shaders 20 (v3.0)
DirectX Hardware Support DirectX v9.0c
Pixel Fillrate 7960 MPixel/s
Texel Fillrate 7960 MTexel/s

Memory Bus Properties:
Bus Type GDDR3
Bus Width 256-bit
Real Clock 499 MHz (DDR) (original: 500 MHz)
Effective Clock 999 MHz
Bandwidth 31.2 GB/s

Miscellaneous:
Fan Speed 28%

Graphics Processor Manufacturer:
Company Name NVIDIA Corporation
Product Information http://www.nvidia.com/page/products...
Driver Download http://www.nvidia.com/content/drive...
Driver Update http://driveragent.com?ref=59

nVIDIA GPU Registers:
nv-000000 049200A2
nv-0010F0 82E9040A
nv-001218 00010000
nv-001540 73FF7F37
nv-0015B0 8000201C
nv-0015B4 08001988
nv-0015F4 00000000
nv-0015F8 7FFFFFFF
nv-0015FC 00000000
nv-001600 7FFFFFFF
nv-001850 00000000
nv-004000 C0010000
nv-004004 1F080801
nv-004020 AC301000
nv-004024 00002502
nv-00C040 3C0B06EF
nv-100000 00000000
nv-100200 43006373
nv-10020C 20000000
nv-100474 00000000
nv-100914 10011222
nv-101000 A340EE97

**************** WARM BOOT ****************
correct driver

Video Adapter Properties:
Device Description NVIDIA GeForce 7900 GS
Adapter String GeForce 7900 GS
BIOS String Version 5.71.22.42.3E
Chip Type GeForce 7900 GS
DAC Type Integrated RAMDAC
Memory Size 512 MB

Installed Drivers:
nv4_disp 6.14.11.9621 - nVIDIA ForceWare 196.21

Graphics Processor Properties:
Video Adapter nVIDIA GeForce 7900 GS AGP
BIOS Version 5.71.22.42.3E
GPU Code Name G71GSAGP
PCI Device 10DE-02E3 / 1462-3E20 (Rev A2)
Transistors 278 million
Process Technology 90 nm
Die Size 196 mm2
Bus Type AGP 8x @ 8x
Memory Size 512 MB
GPU Clock (Geometric Domain) 418 MHz (original: 420 MHz)
GPU Clock (Shader Domain) 398 MHz (original: 400 MHz)
GPU Clock (ROP Domain) 398 MHz (original: 400 MHz)
RAMDAC Clock 400 MHz
Pixel Pipelines 20
TMU Per Pipeline 1
Vertex Shaders 7 (v3.0)
Pixel Shaders 20 (v3.0)
DirectX Hardware Support DirectX v9.0c
Pixel Fillrate 7960 MPixel/s
Texel Fillrate 7960 MTexel/s

Memory Bus Properties:
Bus Type GDDR3
Bus Width 256-bit
Real Clock 499 MHz (DDR) (original: 500 MHz)
Effective Clock 999 MHz
Bandwidth 31.2 GB/s

Miscellaneous:
Fan Speed 28%

nVIDIA GPU Registers:
nv-000000 049200A2
nv-0010F0 82E9040A
nv-001218 00010000
nv-001540 73FF7F37
nv-0015B0 8000201C
nv-0015B4 0800199A
nv-0015F4 00000000
nv-0015F8 7FFFFFFF
nv-0015FC 00000000
nv-001600 7FFFFFFF
nv-001850 00000000
nv-004000 C0010000
nv-004004 1F080801
nv-004020 AC301000
nv-004024 00002502
nv-00C040 3C0B06EF
nv-100000 00000000
nv-100200 43006373
nv-10020C 20000000
nv-100474 00000000
nv-100914 10011222
nv-101000 A340EE97

I HAVE HIGHLIGHTED THE DIFF entries...


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#1
July 22, 2010 at 17:35:51
BECAUSE I have a backup image of my entire BOOT C: Partition, I can try things out, so tonight again I went to try a different method of removing the offending driver here is the result.

I did a cold boot, Uninstalled all my Nvidia Drivers, shut down powered off for 10 minutes when to make some food, came back after 10 minutes booted up COLD, removed all remaining drivers related to the AGP removed motherboard AGP base drive, shut down powered off 10 minutes, waited, powered up, used Driver Cleaner Professional Edition to remove all Nvidia left overs, shut down 10m.

Booted in safe mode went to check for any remnants all seemed fine, shut-down 10m

Cold booted and Installed AGP motherboad main host controler, shutdown, waited 10m

Cold Booted then Installed latest Nvidia drivers
258.96_desktop_winxp_32bit_english_whql

Rebooted this time as WARM boot, hoping bad entries are gone, but now the old problem of JAVA applet in control panel is all garbled, (no menu) and when I run 3DMARK03 their are no intro screens visible (black screens no text or progress bars) after a while the aircraft show up in the 3DMARK03 speed test but the fps and info at the bottom shows up as crude text no fancy bar is visible, and during the trolls layer sequence the girl with the illuminated sword is totally bald (no hair) so something is messed up!

This is driving me crazy ......
what is missing from my system?


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#2
July 22, 2010 at 19:38:44
Temperature has nothing to do with it. Driver removal & installation should be pretty straight forward, but it sounds like you may have a bit of a mess on your hands.

You should boot into safe mode to remove the old drivers, then use a driver cleaning program such as Driver Sweeper to clean up the remnants. You should also use CCleaner-Slim to clear out any other accumulated garbage that may be screwing things up.

http://downloads.guru3d.com/Guru3D-...

http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/bu...

After you've done that, boot back into "normal mode" & let XP install generic drivers. Once that's done, install your new drivers.


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#3
July 22, 2010 at 22:44:02
Hi jam - Yes I have been using Ccleaner, Registry Mechanic, and Tune-up Utilities to clean my registry, the only thing I have not tried as above is to allow windows to install Generic drivers as I was concerned it would cause a conflict, the thing that's bugging me more than anything is why after removing the old drivers my JAVA console has gone all weird, this must have something to do with it, as the box is full of junk pixels like a grey box with coloured blocks in it instead of the menu and text. I have tried 2 different Nvidia drivers and same result.

196.21_desktop_winxp_32bit_international_whql
and
258.96_desktop_winxp_32bit_english_whql

I am wondering if it is possible to try re-installing XP over the top of my system which has SP3 installed ? to see if windows can fix the problem ?


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#4
July 22, 2010 at 22:47:25
Oh yeah I forgot I know the temperature has nothing to do with it as I monitor all the thermals of my system hardware, when I say cold boot I mean a start-up of my system with a clear memory, sometimes warm boots use cache in memory or swap file, so by leaving the system off a while the memory is cleared.

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#5
July 22, 2010 at 23:15:57
Hi Jam I just tried the windows update approach it found drivers ok, but still same, missing menu's in 3DMARK03 and corrupt Java menu, seems as though 3Dfx is missing, Oh I also tried re-installing my DirectX 9.0c this also does not help :(

I am open to suggestions, as the only way I think I can fix this is if someone can tell me how to remove or redirect that entry in my original post after I restore my system from the DVD which has the bad entry in it.

Michelle


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#6
July 23, 2010 at 00:38:48
A very l..o..n..g s..h..o..t...

Perhaps disable system-restore when removing driver and or its remnants?

Then install new driver(s); and when (hopefully) all is well, re-enable sytem restore?


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#7
July 23, 2010 at 15:54:17
I never use system restore it eats too much space.

Michelle


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#8
July 24, 2010 at 01:52:46
mmm - but there are times when it (system restore) does just wot it sez... to advantage...? And I haven't really noticed it taking up to much space - usually more than enuff on most drives/systems these days?

But on this occasion obviously it isn't impinging in the way it can when pest clearing...?


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#9
July 24, 2010 at 02:45:29
LOL well as you know system restore only stores so many snapshots anyway and replacing AGP Graphics cards is not something we do frequently so the years since I had an older card still would not help! The point being, this is why I devised a way to back up the entire C: drive periodically, in fact I do have DVD images going back 4 years, one of the earlier one's has the 5700 AGP card, another has the 6600 card, none of which I have any more so restoring to those points kind of defeats the oblect as I would need to fit those cards first before using those images before doing a clean un-install.

So back to the present, I have had to restore again to the latest DVD backup and it took me 1hour 25 minutes pheew 7.7GB used area, this gets to be a drag sometimes, I am seriously contemplating a clean install, BUT this does not mean it will solve all my problems as my system is optimised very well in most area's and runs well most of the time, it's just annoying having to boot twice every time I turn on my PC.

Perhaps the bad entry (mentioned at first post) is stored in the win.ini file or somewhere ? any idea's ?

I tried a hidden system file search containing that ID but nothing was found even though hidden / system files was also searched.

Michelle


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#10
July 24, 2010 at 20:14:13
I am going to try and get help on the Nvidia forum

Michelle


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#11
July 29, 2010 at 15:29:00
I have managed to get my DIRECTX working again, I removed all my Nvidia drivers and re-installed DirectX before putting back my Nvidia drivers and this has fixed some of my problems so all the dxdiag tests complete now 100% however I still have a black screen in 3DMARK03 intro screens, also I just installed the latest Vdownloader because the old one stopped working due to Google changing the way YouTube works and this also only shows a Black Screen inside the blue bordered window area so NO functionality in vdownloader.


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#12
August 8, 2010 at 19:54:45
I re-installed my OS the problem is stable now it seems.

Michelle


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#13
August 9, 2010 at 15:45:41
mmm.. thank you posting back... drastic solution but if it worked...

And presumably you are ensuring data/files etc. as safely and regularly copied off the system too...; just in-case...


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#14
August 11, 2010 at 15:19:16
Well I still had to force the driver in windows Detect Hardware mode, even after flashing my bios (using original latest motherboard bios btw, used before so known to be safe) formatting C: drive 0 / PARTITION 3 windows still thought it was a 7600 but now hopefully it will stay, I have made a fresh DVD backup image just in case the Sh%^ hits the fan again, but all the features in video playback mode are working great now no missing features or graphics that's the main thing :) must be a Ghost in my machine lol

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#15
August 11, 2010 at 21:09:56
Hello I think you should try changing your cmos battery it sounds like your bios is forgetting it's
setup instrucutions when your system is cold
your old video card was Oem Right Maybe I am
mistaken but I had the sme problem not to long ago.

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#16
August 12, 2010 at 07:03:09
Thanks but it's not that, I have Everest monitoring my hardware voltages in real time all the voltages are good, but thanks for the suggestion.

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#17
August 12, 2010 at 07:11:25
My old Video card was a Gigabyte 7600 GS it came with a few extra drivers including some software Called @bios

I still have the software and card actually but don't use it
GIGABYTE VGA @BIOS version 1.1
7.51 MB file size GVUM071227

I suspect this screwed up my cemos



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#18
August 12, 2010 at 10:30:16
Well during all my checks I have turned up something conspicuous, even after running chkdsk several times with the /f flag after every single boot and running chkdsk /I to see if their are any disk errors this keeps coming back, I would like to fix this what ever it is as over time the index entries increase incrementally.

The type of the file system is NTFS.
Volume label is WinXP.

WARNING! F parameter not specified.
Running CHKDSK in read-only mode.

WARNING! I parameter specified.
Your drive may still be corrupt even after running CHKDSK.

CHKDSK is verifying files (stage 1 of 3)...
File verification completed.
CHKDSK is verifying indexes (stage 2 of 3)...
Index verification completed.
CHKDSK is verifying security descriptors (stage 3 of 3)...
Cleaning up 1 unused index entries from index $SII of file 9.
Cleaning up 1 unused index entries from index $SDH of file 9.
Cleaning up 1 unused security descriptors.
Security descriptor verification completed.

15358139 KB total disk space.
4541792 KB in 30080 files.
11212 KB in 3161 indexes.
0 KB in bad sectors.
104503 KB in use by the system.
65536 KB occupied by the log file.
10700632 KB available on disk.

4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
3839534 total allocation units on disk.
2675158 allocation units available on disk

So how do I dind out what is writing the BAD index entries below ?
unused index entries from index $SII of file 9.
unused index entries from index $SDH of file

Michelle


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