never set a password and now it needs one

April 6, 2011 at 17:07:00
Specs: Media Center Win XP, 3.40g/2.00g
I was cleaning up my XP system and all went well. I went to Restart and when it reloaded it asked for my password. My user name was there but not the password and I have never set one, ever. I am the only one who uses it. HELP! Tried to go into Safe Mode but again it wanted a password. Then I F8ed and went to last known config. No dice. This computer was built so the OS didn't come like it was factory. HELP!!!!

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#1
April 6, 2011 at 17:21:32
Adding to my post: I found all the stuff the people who built this gave me and it IS OEM. Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005. I found the disk, go figure. This isn't my first computer and I have always been the one everyone goes to for help, used to do this for a living (little background). This is the only computer I haven't built on my own and it is an old one. If I run into trouble with an unclean install, I shall return.
Jann

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#2
April 6, 2011 at 17:22:59
Don't freak out sister!

Did you try it without any password like enter key?

In safe mode it may allow you two choices. One is the administrator an the other is your user (screen) name. Try both with no password.

If all fails then we may be able to get it deleted if you have xp home. If you have pro and you encrypted folders then we need to know that.

Lastly is we can usually get the password in clear text.

"The era of big government is over," said Clinton 1996


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#3
April 6, 2011 at 20:49:44
Okay, yes I did try it with Enter and no password. Fail!
In Safe Mode, only one choice same as above. Fail!
This is XP Pro. I use XP Pro on my Mac Mini but I also know how to treat my system and have never had a problem. This one I am working on is a mess.
No encrypted files. I am currently installing anew and put this installation in a folder I named janice. LOL I couldn't make a new partition before I started the installation. It was like I was in come weird loop. Turn system on, XP flash screen, then it went to a screen that showed system stuff, like drives etc, then back to the flash screen, then back to the DOS screen, then................well you get the picture.

This whole thing couldn't have been solved if it would have let me go to a command prompt but it wouldn't. I KNOW my DOS.

Now what I need to know is if I can transfer stuff from the \Windows folder to the janice folder then delete the original folder. Only this can happen to me, trust me. Can I use the transfer files program that is in the Control Panel? Or should I just buy dynamite??

Jann


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#4
April 6, 2011 at 22:18:56
Oh for cryin out loud! All the files are on the original XP windows folder BUT I can't get there from anywherel. I got a command prompt finally to make sure what I did didn't get rid of anything from the first XP. Where that computer came from is a friend who wanted me to clean it up and get all his files backed up so I could have the machine. Now I must figure out a way to get them all backed up and the old interface back on there.

Right in the middle of all that, my granddaughter installed some program called Frostwire. Right after she installed it, my grandson came home and she told him what she did and he then told me what kind of program it is. AAAKKKKK

It brought a truckload of crap.....one of which is Ask Toolbar, completely screwing up Firefox and I can't uninstall it. I took all instances (keys) from the registry (I have always been comfortable in there) And it STILL shows up. What kills me about that is that is wiped out the Firefox tool bar. So I am getting ready to reinstall Firefox. I am not having a great day. Oh, this system uses the worst OS in history, Vista.

Jann


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#5
April 7, 2011 at 05:07:01
After a couple hours sleep, I am back. finally got rid of Ask toolbar in this computer. Now for the other mess: can I just delete the janice folder that I installed the second copy of XP in? I am in a fog here about that. I need to do something to get rid of it. Is there a live forum in here? I really need help quickly. I am going home in a few hours and need to get that box right. I will be hooking it up with my Mac Mini with my KVM switch but I need to know what to do about restoring the original OS with all the files. Thought maybe if worse comes to worse, I can transfer all the files to a piggy back hdd I have and then wipe the other one and use a clean install BUT the install with the OEM disks installed XP Pro which isn't right because the disks and the other paper work that came with it say XP Media Center. When I boot it up it asks if I want to go to XP Pro or XP Media Center. It doesnt matter which I choose, it is the same in either. HELLLLLLP!!!!

Jann not quite awake


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#6
April 7, 2011 at 14:24:19
If you still need help then PM me or repost as to situation. I don't know of exactly live help on any forums. All are at the times of the logged on helpers.

"The era of big government is over," said Clinton 1996


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#7
April 7, 2011 at 16:11:33
Just for info, XP onwards do not have DOS. They only have a DOS emulator but that isn't available until Windows is running. Previous systems, such as Win98 actually ran on DOS (rather like a big program).

Please come back and let us know how you got on.


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#8
April 7, 2011 at 17:37:02
Well, I got a command prompt in safe mode and all the files are there. I was able to do all the DOS commands in there but no help. When windows boots in, the only thing on the desktop is the wallpaper. No start, no tool box, no tool bar, just a lovely sky/mountain scene. Now I just need to get the files off that computer and wipe it clean. I am home and can connect that computer to my Mac Mini then I don't know. Will post later. Thank you!

Jann


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#9
April 7, 2011 at 17:48:07
Try as I might, I can't find a way to do that unless I do it in FB. Let me know.

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#10
April 7, 2011 at 18:02:08
Seems the DOS emulator was working then.

You can get your files off using a Linux Live CD - I use "Puppy Linux". You will need to download it on another machine then use its burning software to "Burn an Image (ISO)". On the faulty machine you set the BIOS so that the CD drive boots before the HD, insert the CD then power on. It runs directly from the CD using the RAM.

Everything is single click in Linux. You drag and drop your own HD files onto a flash drive.

Please come back and let us know how you got on.


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#11
April 7, 2011 at 19:01:02
I will absolutely try this! While I was reading it, I got the sense that this will work! And my instincts are usually right on. It will be a couple days but I will get back to you. Someone shoot me if I ever help anyone who doesn't ever back up stuff.

Now I can get to the business of helping ppl on this forum, if that is okay. I was on a fabulous tech forum that had to go down because of the cost and I haven't been able to find one I am comfortable with. Since I tend to ramble ppl do get exasperated with me at times. I need to get on FB and join you there.

When I am here at home I only have dialup, DSL isn't available here and satellite is out of the question. At my daughter's my machine hooks up to her DSL soon as it turns on. I love it!! OH OH OH I did find out how to get rid of that ask toolbar and all the junk it brought to my daughter's laptop.

JANN


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#12
April 7, 2011 at 20:13:07
Whoa, there are a lot of those to choose from! I will go with you use, Puppy. Do I need a special ver or just the latest one? What I am going to do is have my daughter dl it on her DSL. If I use my dialup, it could take days! Thank you!!

Jann


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#13
April 8, 2011 at 04:53:58
Just get the latest Puppy. It's a obviously going to be a bit different to use than Windows but it's not techie in terms of getting your files saved.

Please come back and let us know how you got on.


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#14
April 8, 2011 at 12:34:57
Got the latest ver. of Puppy. I am also wondering about that Desktop ver that is over 600mgs that is on Ubunto, what is that? I am thinking it must be all the Linux Live programs? Question about Puppy: Do I need a flash drive or can I install another hdd on this system and transfer to that?

Also, my neighbor has a cord she bought to transfer files from her old comp to her new one. I would transfer them to my Mac Mini then transfer them back after I wipe the hdd on this mess computer. Just throwing around ideas. I don't know if this MM have right port to connect her cable.

Thanks! I will fire it up with Puppy and let you know.

Jann


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#15
April 8, 2011 at 14:33:47
The main reason for suggesting Puppy is that is one that I am familiar with (although the new version 5 might be a bit different). I know very little about Mac's either.

Yes, Puppy can recognise any drives, HD or Flash. It's just a matter of working out which is which. Note that Linux will show folders and files where they are actually located and it hides nothing. For example Windows access to "My Documents" is really a shortcut. To get there in Linux you have to take the true root which is:
Documents and Settings > your user name > My Documents.

Please come back and let us know how you got on.


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