Solved Is there a soultion?

October 28, 2017 at 19:15:38
Specs: Windows XP service pack 3 , Intel core i5
I'm having the same problem on my Windows XP virtual box VM, after this happens the desktop becomes unresponsive. I know that its been 3 years since Windows XP's "death" or loss of support by Microsoft, and 7 years since the last reply. I know I have enough virtual RAM which is about 2GB or 1/4th of my MacBook Pro's 8GB of memory.

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October 31, 2017 at 06:41:40
There are various versions (different "brands") of VM about for current Mac OSX, and some of them may no-longer be fully XP compatible? Parallels and likely VMware Fusion for Mac may now be less supportive of older windows OS; especially '98? I seem to recall that Apple's BootCamp (latest version) no-longer likes XP.... Which VM are you using for XP?

However I'm somewhat curious by your reference to mini vmac emulator; especially as you appear to say you're running XP in a VM on a Mac OSX (Sierra) system, and had mini vmac installed...

It would appear that mini vmac emulator was designed to enable both Mac and non Mac systems run "some" older Mac software. Was that why you had it installed (presumably in Sierra) - although now it's been removed?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VMac

https://sourceforge.net/projects/mi...

http://www.gryphel.com/c/minivmac/

http://www.emaculation.com/doku.php...

http://www.emulator-zone.com/doc.ph...

It wasn't designed to be installed a host etc. for other non Mac OS but rather to install and host older Mac software...

Seems there are more than a few of such items about nowadays...

https://www.macworld.co.uk/how-to/m...



#1
October 29, 2017 at 02:51:04
You appear to be referrimg to a problem discussed in another post. Please include the reference to that post. As things are we have no idea what the problem is...

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October 29, 2017 at 10:09:48
The problem I’m having is that when I logon to my Windows XP home edition virtual box virtual machine where I keep getting a popup message saying "Can't run 16-bit Windows program -- Insufficient memory to run this application. Quit one or more Windows applications and then try again." for the last few months. I’ve been getting this message since I uninstalled mini vmac mac emulator. Then in the last few days the vm has been freezing up at the logon screen and when it finally logs in the windows logon sound gets stuck in the middle of playing then the can’t run 16bit windows program message pops up after I exit the message the desktop aka expoler user interface freezes up and becomes unresponsive it doesn’t do this is safe mode though. I’ve ran malware bytes in safe mode and it can’t find any malware. I have avast free antivirus installed but because the explorer user interface is unresponsive I can’t run it, it also doesn’t work in safe mode

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October 29, 2017 at 10:43:19
For a starter, run ccleaner - the free version. Download etc.from here.

https://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/d...

Install it using manual/custom mode - not the default/proffered automatic. watch for and unckeck any conveniently pre-checked bose, other than the one fo ccleaner itself. That way you avoid installung all manner of junk and system changes which neither you need nor want; much it being a true PIA to deal with.


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October 30, 2017 at 04:30:45
"Insufficient memory to run this application"
Was a common but entirely misleading error report given by 98 when there was too MUCH memory used. And 2 gigs certainly applies as too much for 98.

I'm thinking your VM isn't worth having if it can't handle this well known issue from the start. But that issue aside, what would be wrong with re-installing mini vmac mac emulator where the system seemed to work fine? It's possible that it's poorly written uninstaller removed a file that perhaps it should not have. There are things worse than being married to software, but it's right up there with the real thing.

64 bit XP? Intel core i5 correct info?

Lee


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October 30, 2017 at 18:40:32
The specs I posted are the specs of the virtual box Windows XP vm and not my Physical computer. The vm showes the prcessor information of the physical computer. The physical computer I am running the Windows XP vm on is a 2012 MacBook Pro running Mac OS Sierra with 8gb of ram with an intel core i5 processor. I did fix the problem with the Windows XP vm freezing by updating the virtual box program, I just didn’t fix the popup message though.

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October 31, 2017 at 03:57:04
The error message pop up uses the same language that 98 used.

Suspicious that 98 is passing the error to the VM and it's just parroting it on to you.

This means as I first suggested that the VM isn't well written if it can't limit 9x system to 512 Megabytes system ram maximum in the VM sandbox where 98 is supposed to be playing. VM then also must perform all 16 bit processes itself since 64 bit Intel core i5 processor is not capable of 16 bit process - it is only capable of running 64 or 32 bit code. A 32 bit CPU would be able to run 16 bit code but not a 64 bit CPU. Other can't get there from here issue is multicore issue. 98 is single core code only, multiple core CPU can not run that code unless it's possible to shut down all cores except ONE. And that would be the job of a well written VM.

I truly believe that there doesn't exist this well written VM that can overcome any of these issues because I hear these same issues time and again with no return - hey, I fixed it, here's how you do it comment. They just quit trying and go away. You can't get there from here then it would appear. Begs the question why they would offer a VM if it doesn't work and I don't have that answer. Just because you want it doesn't mean you get it.

Lee


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October 31, 2017 at 06:41:40
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There are various versions (different "brands") of VM about for current Mac OSX, and some of them may no-longer be fully XP compatible? Parallels and likely VMware Fusion for Mac may now be less supportive of older windows OS; especially '98? I seem to recall that Apple's BootCamp (latest version) no-longer likes XP.... Which VM are you using for XP?

However I'm somewhat curious by your reference to mini vmac emulator; especially as you appear to say you're running XP in a VM on a Mac OSX (Sierra) system, and had mini vmac installed...

It would appear that mini vmac emulator was designed to enable both Mac and non Mac systems run "some" older Mac software. Was that why you had it installed (presumably in Sierra) - although now it's been removed?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VMac

https://sourceforge.net/projects/mi...

http://www.gryphel.com/c/minivmac/

http://www.emaculation.com/doku.php...

http://www.emulator-zone.com/doc.ph...

It wasn't designed to be installed a host etc. for other non Mac OS but rather to install and host older Mac software...

Seems there are more than a few of such items about nowadays...

https://www.macworld.co.uk/how-to/m...


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November 1, 2017 at 20:06:09
I’ve decided to is either reinstall Windows XP on the Windows XP vm with the problem or make a new vm with a fresh install of xp. I now have the mini vmac emulator running on Sierra with no problems. The virtual box program can run most Windows OS’ with out or not many problems from as old as windows 3.x to as new as windows server 2016. It has trouble running Windows 1, 2.x, and NT 3.x. It also is able to run most OS’ that are capable of running on Intel and AMD. For OS’ made for Power PC or ARM you need an emulator. I would like to thank you for trying to help me fix my VM’s problem.

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