How do you make a backup?

July 22, 2012 at 16:42:51
Specs: Windows XP, 1.8 CPU/ 512 RAM
Hello, Hello, Hello
How's everyone?

I am trying to figure out how to make a backup. Can you make one with XP? Is System Restore the only way that you can make a back up with XP?

Because I want to make a backup just in case something happens to my system.


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#1
July 22, 2012 at 16:50:50
There are dozens of backup programs available. Norton Ghost and Acronis are probably the two most popular. Just do a Google search for backup software.

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#2
July 22, 2012 at 23:22:51
Windows XP comes with an application called NTBackup.

It is installed automatically with Windows XP Professional. With windows XP Home you have to install lit of the Windows CD.

Stuart


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#3
July 23, 2012 at 07:50:27
Worry about backing up AFTER you figure out how to install XP. Better hurry, XP support runs out in 2014.

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#4
July 23, 2012 at 08:51:12
I use NTbackup with an option called system state. It makes a complete copy of your data and the system files. To return it is a bit tricky but the MS page on it has exact steps.

As noted, there are hundreds of free and for pay products. Ghost, Acronis may be the most common commercial ones. Clonzilla, and g4u and any dd or partimage are free choices. I used to use Driveimagexml.

All of them require you to know a bit about it.

Google is evil


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#5
July 23, 2012 at 09:09:08
Forgot to comment on this: "Is System Restore the only way that you can make a back up with XP?"

System Restore is NOT a backup! Please learn how to use google.

"System Restore is an incredible space hog (read more about it in What’s System Restore in Windows XP?). It might be worth it, if System Restore were a truly complete and foolproof form of backup, but it's not. At best, System Restore can and will get the core operating system running again after a bad crash, but it doesn't return all files to the pre-trouble state, and it can't remove all traces of a program that went bad. As a result, System Restore's usefulness is limited, and so should be its appetite for disk space."


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#6
July 23, 2012 at 16:34:37
Google for "Macrium Reflect Free", it's the best free backup programme going and it is dead easy to use. It works on any system and I use it weekly.

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#7
July 23, 2012 at 20:31:20
THX 1138,
Never heard of Acronis. Don't think Norton Ghost would be all that good, and it seems like it would be hard to use. I'll look into Acronis though.
Norton Ghost: The backup process takes about an hour for 20 Gigs of info with an average computer? Or 3+?

StuartS,
I thought there was a backup program for Windows. I have never used it and never knew how to get to it.
Can this backup only be run with your current installation, or can the XP backup be used for ME or W95?
If you make a backup with the NTBackup, save the back up files to a CD/another drive [#2], then format hd [#1] and install a fresh copy of XP, can these backup files still be used? [The same OS was used]

riider,
When XP starts to become outdated for most programs, I will start to use W7, though W8 is right around the corner and they [W7, W8] seem like they will be pretty much the same, so maybe I better go with W8.
riider, what's your scoup on what OS to use?

jefro,
Can this be used with XP?
Is this method exactly like making a clone?
Because if you can make a "clone" with XP, then you don't need any other clone program, right?...

riider,
Okay, "technically" speaking, it is not actually a backup, though it is LIKE a backup, and functions similar to it.
Similarity Note: It does not restore files. It mostly only changes settings.
System Restore may take up a lot of hd space, but it can be very useful, and if you have a big hd, like 200 Gigs or a Terra, then it does not take up much space....

Ewen,
Hay Ewen, looks like you got a couple Gold Medals champ!
Yes, I've been hoping to get the cloning program Macrium Reflect.
I don't trust anything from the Cnet website; I always get viruses from these programs, some of which are of the highest level of danger that there is, when rated.
Spyware = We want to watch everything that you do on the internet

Captain Kirk


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#8
July 23, 2012 at 21:46:23
"riider, what's your scoup on what OS to use?"

I told you in your other thread that I'm done helping you, but it is amusing watching you struggle. And my comment about XP support ending in 2014 was meant as a joke. By the time you figure out how to install XP, it WILL be 2014.


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#9
July 23, 2012 at 22:56:42
You could use the standard backup utility included in Windows XP Professional. But, if you're using XP Home, then you have the use the Windows installation disc. If you need more help, check this out: http://www.lytebyte.com/2007/03/01/how-to-backup-data-in-windows-xp-and-vista/. Anyway, good luck.

P ≠ NP


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#10
July 24, 2012 at 09:31:06
Ntbackup is the official Microsoft way to copy an XP system.

I think that everything that was said by the others is correct. Almost any of the choices are OK to try. Find what you like.

Google is evil


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#11
July 24, 2012 at 18:03:53
jefro,
Hello.

When you are in Windows, what button do you push to get to the Ntbackup, to start this process?

I have never used it before. But it looks like this is what I need.

And a backup is what I need to do.

Captain Kirk


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#12
July 24, 2012 at 18:30:49
The first thing we need to know Mt Kirk is what version of Windows XP you are using.

If you are using Windows Home you first have to install it from the CD as has been stated twice already. If you are using Windows professional yo will find it in Accessories > System Tools > Backup

The you follow the instructions. Explaining how to use an application to someone that has never even seen it is an impossible task.

Stuart


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#13
July 24, 2012 at 23:22:42
There's no button, once you've run the installation file from the XP disk backup appears as another program under 'accessories/system tools'.

Just out of interest, James T. how old are you (in Earth years)?

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us..." Pink Floyd


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#14
July 25, 2012 at 20:46:34
StuartS,
I am using XP Home.
Maybe that's why I haven't seen it...
How do you download it from the disk [XP Home]?

Accessories > System Tools > Backup
nothing. only system restore as the closest thing.

johnr,
Looks like you participate in some interesting topics:
Last post: "Attention - Philips' I90S goes nuts!"
Wow, you sure got a lot of gold medals bud.

I am 15 Billion years olds. But some people say that it is actually a Big Big Bang, which would make the universe around 500 billion years old or so.
You know anything about Astrophyics or Quantum Mechanics? String Theory has some interesting ideas, but it is not completely valid...

Captain Kirk


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#15
July 25, 2012 at 20:54:59
How do you download it from the disk [XP Home]?

You don't download it, you install it, just like any other software on a CD.

You put the CD in the drive. Bring up Windows Explorer. Finf NT Backup on the CD. Double click it and follow the instructions.

Stuart


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#16
July 25, 2012 at 21:27:47
How to install Backup on the CD.

When it comes to installing Windows XP Home it does not get installed.
But it is on the Install CD. You will need to have a Windows XP Home CD to do the following.

Insert your windows XP disc into your PC. Click exit if your installation screen comes up. Now go too your CD drive in *My Computer*. Right-click and select open. Choose VALUE ADD\MSFT\NT BACK-UP FILE. In the *files of type* drop down list be sure that *select all files* is on. Click on the NTBACK-UP.msi file and click okay. Click the finish button and now go over too the start button\ALL PROGRAMS\ACCESSORIES\SYSTEM TOOLS\ and there it is now. Backup.

Hardwicks Computing Helps


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#17
July 25, 2012 at 23:26:33
JTK, this is definitely the last time I'm bothering to post as I prefer to spend my time helping those posters with genuine needs. One of my job entails me having to spend a lot of time in front of a computer and I use the CN as a bit of a diversion, but I don't like having my time wasted.

You know how to find what others have posted on and yet you claim to know nothing of basic stuff like ntbackup. Sorry, that does not stack up.

I rather suspect you are a young person with a lot of time on your hands who, as you have already said, 'likes to chat'. Looking through some of your past posts, you are verging on the edges of 'trolling',

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us..." Pink Floyd


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#18
July 26, 2012 at 19:09:19
StuartS,
Thanks StuartS, at least I have a general idea as to where it is and what the file is.

JPW,
A silver and two bronze medals, huh?

Thanks for the almost rescue. I never would have found it from the instructions that StuartS gave. But thanks to you, you told me the actual file name. So even if I didn't know the location, I could at least search for it. Your description was 10 times better.

I opened "windows Explorer"/"My Computer" then "opened/explore" CD drive for the XP that was inserted.
And here's how far that I got:
VALUE ADD\MSFT
In the MSFT folder, there is NO folder named, "NT BACK-UP FILE"
These are the ONLY folders that are listed in the MSFT folder:
FONTS
MGMT
NET
USMT

and so I tried a search...
These were the ONLY list results to a search for the file name you provided: [NTBACK-UP.msi]
WinNT32.msi
LipSetup.msi
Suptools.msi
WBEMODBC.msi

Then I did a search again: [Back]
Backup.JP_
NTbackup.ex_
NTbackup.hl_
WPAback.jp_

I thought that I had scored a victory, so I clicked on "NTbackup.ex_"
I could not open the file. And all of the other files have the same blank icon that is not recognized by ANY program.
"What do you want to do?"
"Use the web service to find the appropriate program?"
"Select the program from a list?"

It may not be the standard XP Home disk: I using this CD --
XP Home Service Pack 2

Captain Kirk


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#19
July 26, 2012 at 19:49:26
Dear johnr,
I don't like to advertise my age. If I told you my age, it would give you an impression about me.
If I told you that:
1> I went to Harvard and graduated at 17 with a Bachlor's Degree, your impression about me would be that you'd have respect for me.
2> I was 87 and didn't have much experience with this "new" technology. Your impression would be that I'm not that smart, but you still might look up to me as a fatherly figure since I am old enough to be your father.
3> I am 26 and dropped out of the 6th grade. I don't know how to spell and I have very little knowledge, though I may be "Street Smart". Your impression of me would be that you would look down upon me and think that I am stupid. And you might even call me dumb to my face or secretly think that and tell other this.
4> I am a Savant Idiot with a Mensa genius IQ. But I cannot button my own shirt for myself, or even tie my own shoes. Please don't judge me on what I can't do. I am only good in "certain" areas. Your impression of me might be that I am some kind of lesser person that was stupid, but not "stupid" in IQ, just DUMB in general.

Yes, it is true that I like to chat. But it is also true that this is a legitemate crisis. Have you seen my other posts?
"Computer Suddenly Went Black"
"Laptop Suddenly went blank NO Boot; Now 3-5 Boots"
"Can you use same MGR for 2 different model computers?"

Psychology:
If you did KNOW that I was "3>", you might even ridicule me and make fun of me on a regular basis along with everyone else. You would probably even enjoy it, seeing as how you would have PROVEN your ego and self image about yourself how you are so much of a better person that this "stupid" person.

Question 1:
What would happen if I was really computer stupid in some areas because my ONLY knowledge about them has only come from hands on experience and not from book smarts? Would you judge me on my computer literary skills?

Question 2:
What if I was good at my "abc's", but did not know math, would you judge me like an IQ test? Okay, good marks on English. But failing scores on math. So then you would base your WHOLE opinion of me on what I am "not" good at?

FINAL WORD
If I never talk to you again, that is fine. But I just want you to go away with this.
If your computer suddenly turned OFF by itself, wouldn't you be worried?
If your computer would not boot when you pressed the power button, wouldn't YOU have "wished" that you had made a backup?
If you were going to format your hd, wouldn't you want to make a BACKUP?!!!!!!!!!!

If I don't talk to you again, then you will stop ridiculing me about my stupidity along with everyone else:
Sociology [Jump on the BandWagon], Psychology [Monkey see, Monkey do]


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#20
July 27, 2012 at 05:53:42
Copy the "NTbackup.ex_"
file to your desktop and right click on it and chose rename. rename it
NTbackup.exe and then double click on it and it will install then.

Any time you have a file like that it just needs the exe changed to work.

Hardwicks Computing Helps


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#21
July 28, 2012 at 06:37:02
I think I've figured out why we can't get thru to this guy >> CLICK ME!

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#22
July 28, 2012 at 09:04:32
I think you nailed it riider.

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