desk top pc, WinXP wants to upgrade:

January 19, 2014 at 14:11:46
Specs: Windows XP, Pentium 4cpu 2.40 GHz 2.39GHz 1.46GB RAM
Sony Vaio PCV-RX850, WINDOWS XP HM ED VER 2002 SERVICE PACE 3, 32 bit.

Hi all,
I would like to upgrade my XP to a newer Windows.
What do I need to do?
Can the tower infact handle an upgrade?

Would I need to purchase a motherboard, RAM etc.?

I need to know everything I have to do in order to go to a newer version of Windows.

I also do not know which version besides Vista is next that my pc can handle.
Can I in fact install Vista?
I'm worried because XP is absolete.

You can tell of course that I am not financially able to purchase a new pc.

I thank all of you for your help,

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January 19, 2014 at 14:47:07
I wouldn't bother with Vista (it was bloated) but consider Windows 7 - it should run reasonably well.

Have much RAM is installed? I would recommend at least 2GB, although it might stagger along with 1GB.

You shouldn't need a new mobo but download and run this - see what it tells you:

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January 19, 2014 at 15:58:04
I wish I could be as optimistic as Derek.

It's a pretty old system. It's done well to last this long. The old'uns were built to last.
However, I think it would struggle, even with Win7 trimmed back to the basics.

According to Sony's specs; Your system is already maxed out with 1.5GB RAM. So maybe no prospect for improvement in that department.

If you were to splash out on either Vista or Win7 install CD with a valid licence, that's going to cost you a minimum of £50 or so from eBay ($80 US ?)

If you were to factor in other costs, such as a mobo (though I doubt you'd need this), would it be worth it.

Chances are you'd be able to purchase a decent desktop PC with a dual-core CPU, maybe 3GB of RAM with Vista or Win7 for £120 or less, or however that translates in your currency.
And not to worry if it is a Vista PC. It has an undeservedly bad reputation which stuck with it after its disastrous release.
After SP2 it was much improved and is actually solid as a rock - though in my opinion, Win7 is the best ever.
Vista is supported until 2017, which isn't long. Whereas Win7 is good until 2020.

One good thing; as a rule of thumb, a PC that was designed for Vista usually runs even better with Win7. Vista forced manufacturers to fit better graphics, more RAM and decent CPUs to get it to run.

See what the other guys come up with, but if it comes to it, and you know what to look for, there are decent used PCs to be had.

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January 19, 2014 at 16:21:34
Copy off all your important files, then wipe the hard drive & install Windows 7 32-bit. It will run OK with 1.5GB RAM but it would perform better with more. And you may need to upgrade the graphics card.

Sony Vaio PCV-RX850 specs

Windows 7 Home Premium x86 English (2.38GB)

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January 19, 2014 at 16:29:41
Peet100 makes an important point that 1.5GB of RAM is the maximum that can be fitted according to the spec. I also agree with the comments about Vista, which could be fine on later hardware. Win 7 would perform better than Vista on the computer described.

To some extent it all pans out to "how well it would run", rather then whether it would run at all.

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January 19, 2014 at 21:54:45
Hi Peet100,Thank you for your input. Thank all of you.
As you mentioned. . . a used pc.

I was just looking around at the refurbished and trying to do some research on it.
It's a little scary when some only have a 30 day warranty but did find some sites that have a 1 yr warranty. And they are almost in my price bracket if I save for a couple of months. Under $200. Honey would send me to an early grave if I happen to go over that. LOL

I was so down but now my spirits have picked up a little after reading your post about looking into the used. I also had read on PC Magazine, about how to search for the refurbished.

This pc I have is pretty good for me. I'm a great grandmother. . . so I don't do a lot of stuff that the youngin's all do on theirs. LOL.

I need one that is fast enough (I do a lot of research) I hate waiting for pages to load and the ones that have a lot of pictures are horribly slow on my pc.

I do creative writing and work with photo manipulation programs for my grandkids and great grand kids pics. They love their pics I create for them.
That's what I need a pc for. No games.

My off shoots are using those hand held internet thingys and I don't care at all for them. Nothing in those that I need to have.

I do have a 2002 HP Pavilion dv500 laptop with Vista. I really hate Vista! LOL

At first I thought that I could upgrad all the inner stuff, but I realized that all the wiring probably would not handle it.
I see that I need at least 4 gigs of RAM to run Win7 or 8.
Your best idea for me is the used pc. But what brand would be the best?
Thanks Peet100

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January 20, 2014 at 07:14:00
You don't need a new computer. Just wipe out WinXP & install Win7 Home Premium 32-bit. If afterwards you find that performance is lacking, simply add more RAM.

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January 20, 2014 at 07:37:10
Did you run the program in my link in #1?

I don't think you need to have a minimum of 4G RAM for Win 7. In general adding lots of RAM (even assuming the computer will allow it) is only any point if the CPU is not the bottleneck.

I wouldn't consider Win 8 on that machine - it expects much more ambitious hardware.

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January 20, 2014 at 15:18:25
The upgrade advisor that Derek linked above will not only examine your hardware for compatibility with Windows 7 but any software you may have installed too. I strongly recommend you run the Advisor.

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January 25, 2014 at 12:03:38
The big question is why do you want to upgrade?
Vista is definitely junk. 7 is friendly but they play hide the commands if you are used to XP.

If you surf and check mail XP is fine.
If you make/edit movies, watch TV and other stressful things the hardware is the restriction more than the O/S.(version of windows)

LIke all windows versions, it gets bigger, says its better, needs more hardware to run as good as it's predecessor, runs as slow and cost money to gain little.

If your system is slow clean it and you will be surprised.

Turn off all the junk at start up and it will be faster.
My 2 cents,

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January 25, 2014 at 12:29:35
The downside of sticking with XP, if that's what you mean, is that MS are ending security support in April 2014. From then on it will get progressively less secure and the hackers will be well aware of the situation.

I can give some ways to help secure XP quite a bit if you decide to keep it.

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January 30, 2014 at 22:11:30
HI Derek,
Sorry I haven't responded to any of everyone's help here. Been out of town.
Today I read what you said about running that program to see if I could install Windows 7 32 bit.
I had used that some time ago and it told me no. But since then I have installed XP over my XP. . .which formated my XP and now I have more space and I do not have a partition anymore. . . which was what I was after.
I may have to reinstall it again because I'm sure I chose something about. . . for the disabled. Now everything is too large for reading well. Takes up a lot of space too.

Anyway, ran the program today and "YES !" I can accept Windows 7.

But on your other reply you mentioned that if I decide to keep this (which is really working fine except for the large fonts and everything else). You could tell me how to do things to keep it working after April.

Thank you so much. I have also been back to Ebay looking at the refurbished towers. When on Ebay, the price of the Windows 7 home (or what it's called) a few more dollars and I could get a computer with windows 7 already on it.
All this is so confusing. LOL

I think I would like to go the way you suggested on keeping my XP.
I have Vista on the old lap top and do not like it at all.

Where is that thing at to click on for "best advice?"I should be back tomorrow.
Night, nite.

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January 30, 2014 at 22:23:52
Hi Riider,
I have already added all the stuff I can. I think.

I went to "" and it had ran a test on my pc to see what to get. I put in 2 things that I think said it was 512 (?) sorry I'm so lame. LOL
Anyway, I have 3 of those in my tower now and it can't go any higher.

Would be great if I could install those 4 GB ram.
Thank you

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January 31, 2014 at 07:57:26
Re Hanging onto XP:

See these two:

As for the second link I would now add ADWCleaner to the list as it often finds and fixes dubious and dangerous toolbars that are ignored by many other security programs:
Download file from "Download Now @BleepingComputer" icon, then run by double clicking saved file. OK to let it clean everything but it does give options.

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January 31, 2014 at 19:31:01
HI again Derek,
Did what you suggested. Also printed it all out. Both places.
I now have a small book. Lol

You wrote all that yourself? . Very impressive.

I also downloaded the AWCleaner. Haven't used it yet. I will soon.
I think I brought some other stuff with it. It didn't give me the option to "custom install."
What is fusion?

I would like to wait until next week or so. I still haven't reinstalled the Windows XP in order to get rid of all the large stuff.

Thank you Derek

Now I have these pages to go by when I do the DMR's.

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January 31, 2014 at 20:08:09
Sorry, haven't run into "fusion". Usually ADWCleaner from BleepingComputer doesn't foist things onto you if you use the icon I suggested (top right). Better confirm that is exactly what you did. See if you can uninstall it from "Control Panel > Add-Remove Programs". It could be worth running MalwareBytes and ADWCleaner (if it was the right one) soon unless you plan reformat and re-install anyway.

You always have to be on the look out for unwanted goodies that are "conveniently" pre-checked for you of course.

Always pop back and let us know the outcome - thanks

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February 1, 2014 at 21:08:17
Hi Derek,
I didn't know where to post this.
It's still the same computer.

I did a clean install of windows xp because I thought that I could get everything smaller as it was before I started messing around.

Now, everything is still huge and huger ! Some places I have to use the scroll bar at the bottom so that I can see all the words on a line.

I can not update IE 6. I can not download SP1,SP2 or SP3. I think I need something first before I can download those service packs.

I've been here and there trying to find out how to get IE 8 and all the services packs back again. I seen a .net framework, but it said that it was only for windows 7.

Can you help me?

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February 2, 2014 at 08:39:23
First, right click the screen and choose Properties. See if you can increase the screen resolution. Much more likely that the huge size is because you haven't installed the Display/Graphics driver. Best bet is to get all the necessary drivers first (from Sony) - maybe some of the other issues will then go away.

Always pop back and let us know the outcome - thanks

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February 7, 2014 at 15:28:44
Hi Derek,
I guess that's it. The drivers. When I try to do it by the 'Properties, Settings, and slide the bar, it will not let me. The screen goes black for a moment then it says please change the monitor input timing to 1920X1080.

A while back (last month) I had called Sony and they wanted $50 for drivers.
Guess I'll have to do that on the next payday.
I can not even do a Windows Update. It tells me that they are no longer giving me updates. It's not even April !

Thank you for all your help.
Still there is no place to click on best answer. I'll come back to look for it.

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February 7, 2014 at 16:15:15
The drivers seem to be here (free):
You need to see the Video section (SiS® 651 Graphics Controller Driver). There are also Monitor drivers although mostly they don't do too much. The usual screen resolution setting is whatever is native for the monitor.

The Windows update issue is quite separate and Windows Update is still working.
Not sure what that is all about - what is the "exact" message?

Always pop back and let us know the outcome - thanks

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February 7, 2014 at 22:16:19
Hi Derek,
I did that . . . clicked on the link and it looks very promising. Thank you.

Know what I did? I found out how to find the "was this helpful," and got a little carried away. . . I even clicked on my own "asking post." Lol

No kidding. . . you have really been there for me.

Right now I'm reinstalling Windows XP all over again.
Hopefully it gets done right.

I was not able to stay on a lot of web sites because I did not have the right stuff.
I could not download and install the stuff I needed.

So I figured. . . what the heck. Just do it again.

On that Windows Update site, it said that XP was no longer supported. Was able to scroll down this evening and it said I need to download and install Windows Update Automated Troubleshooter .
I was not able to do that. Nothing would happen.

Upon installing XP again, it said that it could not find or get the updates. I kept pressing 'get updates,' and I guess it may have heard me. (lol). Hopefully it is doing that.
Will let you know what happens tomorrow.
Thank you Derek

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February 8, 2014 at 07:32:41

I reset your best answer selection to none. Derek has helped you the most but the answer you marked did not solve your problem. Sounds like you are getting there though. Just pick one near, of at the end that is best suited.

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February 8, 2014 at 07:55:16
Always glad to help - hope it shakes out but come back if need be.

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