Dell Northon Gohst backup

Dell / Insipiron 9300
April 11, 2009 at 10:54:12
Specs: Windows Vista, 2Gb
I have Norton Ghost 2003, which I used to backup my C:drive.
Is this enough for Dell computers?
I heard rumours that if you restored a backup to a DELL computer, Windows would fail to work because of the keycodes not matching the machine.
Dell also have a restore drive installed on all computers - what's that for, should that be backed up as well - seems pointless to me, jsut taking up space.

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April 11, 2009 at 12:07:26
If your Ghost image is good then it is OK to restore that way.

The restore partition is there so you can put the computer back to the factory state, which is not normally possible with a current Ghost image because you have additional programs and personal data.

If you haven't made your Dell restore set I suggest you do that too. If the hard drive goes out you can't very well restore by loading the restore file from there.

Even if you don't need it the computer will have more resale value if you have those disks.

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April 11, 2009 at 12:29:51
... how about making a restore dvd of the recovery partition
then you'll have the space and a "bird scarer" you can use in years to come!

"...pentathol makes you sing like a canary"
... got brain freeze

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April 11, 2009 at 12:59:12
What is a Dell restore set?
So, if I backup the restore partition, then I can just delete it and use it for other storage? I'm weary of combining that partition with the current C:drive but I could do it if needed.

Also, I have Ghost Norton 2003 but in the create CD startup option, it only lists floppy drives?

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April 11, 2009 at 13:15:21
A Dell restore set is the disks you can create from the restore partition. As I stated, if the drive goes South you can't very well restore from it so you have the option to create ONE set of disks that is basically a copy of the restore partition.

If you are the original owner of that computer and you never made that restore set you should still be able to do it. Consult your manual for instructions on how to do it.

FYI, this is standard practice with virtually all OEM computers these days.

I use Ghost 2003 and the bset method of imaging IMO is to burn directly to DVDR disks. Ghost will span as many disks as needed.

When you need to restore from that image you simply boot to the first DVDR to start the restore.

If you image to a second hard drive you can start the restore process by booting to the Ghost CD.

If you have SATA drives in the mix you need to have Ghost 2003.795 version in order to use SATA drives.

Open Ghost and click on help to determine which version you have. I have a link somewhere I think to the download for 2003.795 update.


Deleting the hidden partition is easy to do. Restoring it to the hidden status isn't as easy. It doesn't take up that much space anyway. Why swim upstream.

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April 11, 2009 at 13:38:04
This is the way I understand the recovery disk/partition.

You have a recovery partition, so that if your install of the c drive goes bad, you can restore from the D partition.

But if the complete drive, c & d goes tits up, you have the recovery dvd's to restore that, or a new hard disk.

Obviously, these are only to the date you got the pc. Ghost is a good way of making regular backups with you latest programs & documents.

I used Ghost 2003, until I discovered Acronis Trueimage. Ghost 2003, is not easy to back up to usb drive. You could backup the complete disk to dvd's, but that could mean a lot. With acronis, you can back up to usb. Of course. it is not free, but Seagate have a disk clone utility, which is a cut down version of Acronis.

Until recently, I had created a separate partition, then I used ghost 2003, to create an image of C. This isn't foolproof, but it was a quick way to restore, when I had a problem.

Before posting try google. Backup. Use anti virus software.

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April 11, 2009 at 14:18:47
... must admit in the past I'd copied full recovery partitions to cds when 4GB drives were considered huge on laptops @ that time only to discover after restoring to destination with the ghost option to resize it ie "make it smaller" the restore would not function, suppose it needs room to deploy?

... "Acronis" sector by sector error free imaging has worked well for me

... but I tend to use "drivesnapshot" impressive:

... for its small size its fast!

... anyway where? were we?

... "jackvull"

"...I'm weary of combining that partition with the current C:drive but I could do it if needed...."

.... it takes a bit longer on the restore but you'll have it "all"

"...pentathol makes you sing like a canary"
... got brain freeze

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April 11, 2009 at 16:49:45
With Ghost 2003 you can copy to USB, I do it all the time.

So, the recovery partition isn't really needed? As long as I back it up once, I can just make reg backups of C:.
If I ever need to restore, then I would only put C: back.

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April 11, 2009 at 17:11:25
... well sticking that partition onto a cd is'nt going to be awaste of time (unless you're in a rush)

... I just made DVD's how I wanted it with all the apps etc as a back-up to restore the drive with if need be.

... I never used an installed ghost after exprimenting with just the boot-up version, no need to make incremental bk-ups, not for me anyway.

... you can insert files into and out of the "images" using a ghost explorer when you copy them to a harddrive to write to; but you may have problems if you forget the compression ratio or use different versions,.

"...pentathol makes you sing like a canary"
... got brain freeze

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April 12, 2009 at 03:55:11
This is interesting:
Even though Ghost 2003 supports both NTFS and external USB drives, it cannot do so at the same time. The DOS driver that finds and mounts the external drive cannot read NTFS, even though once you get into Ghost, you *can* see NTFS drives. Therefore, if you plan to create Ghost images that involve external USB hard drives, they should be formatted as FAT32.

So, my USB partition should be FAT32?
My current C: drive is NTFS and I tried verifying an image of the backup with Ghost through DOS and it can see the NTFS and verify it.

Also, do I need the Dell restore set at all?
If I have the recovery partition backed up then can't I just restore the C: drive image if something happens?

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April 12, 2009 at 04:28:00
... or just "Burn" the source straight to DVD(s)

... then use ghost explorer (Ghostexp.exe) to verify the image in Windows,

"...pentathol makes you sing like a canary"
... got brain freeze

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April 12, 2009 at 04:39:22
I have learnt something. I have had problems with ghost 2003 & usb drives. I resorted to using Hirens boot cd, because that uses ghost 11 (similar in looks to 2003) & you can load the dos drivers for the usb.

So you think if you have it formatted to FAT32 it will work?

I tried this

Before posting try google. Backup. Use anti virus software.

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April 12, 2009 at 05:05:24
To all using Ghost 2003. Are you using the final version of that build, which is 2003.795?

Clive, I think you are. Jackvull you haven't answered about what version you are runnning.

I can't swear to it but I don't believe there is any problem writing to USB external NTFS formatted drives on my system. Been a while since I did that because I prefer to use optical media.

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April 12, 2009 at 08:42:22
Othehill, I have version 793, which is the last version, I think.

I haven't had a lot of success with ghosting to usb.

Since I got a cut down version of Acronis Trueimage from Gizmo's hot finds, I use that.

Before posting try google. Backup. Use anti virus software.

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April 12, 2009 at 08:50:16
clive, you are correct about the build number. It is 2003.793. I was going by memory and should have checked.

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