|ok.... man this is bizarre|
I made a gparted live cd, formatted my c partition as NTFS (that's what it was before) then installed from my recovery dvd again.
Almost the same deal as before, I just get "page can not be displayed" from IE when trying to access ms update,
I was able to install Fire Fox this time around, and when trying to access the update site it said "the connection has been reset" while other website seem to work fine!! I tried multiple ways to get to that website, like clicking on a link to it from a search engine or typing the address in manually. same result each time.
I renamed my host file to hostx to no avail.
When I formatted the c drive with gparted, It only took a couple seconds, I was expecting a more lengthy process, does that seem right?
I also did see my recovery partition on the drive, it is named "PQSERVICE" could there be something in there that is getting out and causing this?
thanks for the ideas so far