Solved Does my wife's laptop w/Vista on it have hyberfile.sys on it

June 5, 2016 at 06:25:25
Specs: WinXP SP3, P4/2G
Concerning Vista Home OS:
Personally, I'm still using WinXP, but my wife has a laptop with Vista Home on it downstairs, and I'm trying things to speed it up, since of late, it's been VERY slow. I got rid of a load of programs not being used anymore, and minimized the antivirus hold on the resources by downgrading from Avast Security bundle to simply Avast Free.

I used CCleaner to clean up the registry after dumping tons of programs, and unchecking things that load on startup that weren't absolutely necessary. Last I checked, the computer still works, fortunately, lol.

I haven't looked at the "services" running on startup yet, but I really am not familiar with that area, so I'm not going to tamper with it yet.

I noticed that she puts the computer to "sleep" commonly, instead of turning it off completely. Does that mean it has that humongous file called "hyberfile.sys", the one I deleted from my XP computer to make it run faster (since I never turn it off, or even give it a "nap",,lol). If I were to delete "hyberfile.sys" from her Vista box, would it speed it up (assuming it has that file?).


After ditching a bunch of programs, and cleaning up the registry with CCleaner, it seemed a bit snappier, though not "zippy". But I notice that her main drive, divided in 2 partitions, has one partition (C) that only had 4% free space out of 116 gigs, and now still has only 7 percent free. The other partition (D) has 22 percent free. But I also noticed that not long ago, that 1st partition was showing "red" in "My Computer", while now it's "blue", like the other partition. What's that allabout??

All responses will be highly appreciated, and treated with equal respect, regardless of political affiliations,,lol.

P.S.,,I just checked her laptop this morning. It seems okay, and Firefox opened in only 4 seconds, a LOT faster than before.

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June 6, 2016 at 13:20:39
"...and remember receiving much expert help from y'all"

Shouldn't that be all y'all? ;-)



#1
June 5, 2016 at 07:43:53
Removing files makes no difference to speed - it only saves space. Concentrate on uninstalling unnecessary programs that run in the background or at the least stop them in msconfig and make them work on demand instead from a shortcut.

One partition holds the system (probably C) so let us know what the other one is about. It could be a data drive or recovery partition.

Run these three freebies in the order given, which are a very good start to remove malware (despite Avast):

dwCleaner:
https://toolslib.net/downloads/view...
(blue "Download Now" button on right).
Download and "Save" the file somewhere. Go to the saved file then double click it to run the program. Use the "Scan" button, followed by the "Clean" button.

Junkware Removal Tool (JRT)
https://www.malwarebytes.org/junkwa...
(blue Download button).
Download and "Save" the file somewhere. Go to the saved file then double click it to run JRT. It might appear to have stopped at times or flash the screen but sit tight until it has finished.

MalwareBytes:
https://www.malwarebytes.org/
(use the "download" button rather than the "buy" button).
Install and Run the program but before running the Scan go to "Settings > Detection and Protection" and put a checkmark in "Scan for rootkits". Quarantine anything it finds.

After all the work you have done defrag might be worthwhile too.

EDIT:
If you do attack services then make a Notepad copy of what the original settings were and what changes you have made. Otherwise at some later date when something fails to work you might not have a clue why. Stopping services doesn't usually make a big difference.

Always pop back and let us know the outcome - thanks

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June 5, 2016 at 08:00:03
WinXP_straggler: I haven't looked at the "services" running on startup yet, but I really am not familiar with that area, so I'm not going to tamper with it yet.
It's like the registry. Unless you know what you're doing, don't mess with it. Disable the wrong service, and you can render the computer unbootable outside of safe mode.

WinXP_straggler: If I were to delete "hyberfile.sys" from her Vista box, would it speed it up (assuming it has that file?).
The only times deleting files would speed up a computer would be if:

1) The file system's free space is fragmented beyond reasonable levels. Deleting (I assume) a 4GB file would suddenly provide a free space chunk of 4GB. The OS could then drain this chunk of free space, instead of scraping a few KB or few MB from arbitrary spots on the disk. Note that unless you address whatever is causing the massive fragmentation, you're only temporarily relieving the speed issue. It's better to address whatever's causing so much disk IO, and then run a defrag.

2) If the computer is constantly polling a folder that has thousands to tens of thousands of files. In which case don't do that, and consider spreading the files across different directories.

That's really only for mechanical HDDs. An SSD will effectively render this moot. Also, depending on the PC's hibernation settings, expect Vista to actively fight your deletion attempts.

WinXP_straggler: I also noticed that not long ago, that 1st partition was showing "red" in "My Computer", while now it's "blue", like the other partition. What's that allabout??
Low free space warning. Probably set to kick off at 5% free space remaining.

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June 5, 2016 at 09:25:13
"one partition (C) that only had 4% free space out of 116 gigs, now still has only 7 percent free."

If you dumped a lot of files & programs, how is it that you still only have 7% free space? Remember to empty the Recycle Bin because anything in it is still taking up space until it's emptied. And you mentioned CCleaner but you didn't say anything about actually using the Cleaner. If you've never changed the default browser settings, I'm sure there's a ton of useless internet garbage being stored. Run the Cleaner & remove everything it finds.

What about System Restore? By default, Vista will use 15% of the HDD space for restore points. 15% of 116GB = 17.4GB. There's absolutely no reason to retain that many restore points. Unfortunately Vista doesn't provide a slider to easily change the setting, so here's how to reduce it to 2GB:

http://lifehacker.com/254365/vista-...

Other than that, it still seems there's way too much stuff being stored - photos, videos, music? Get them off the laptop & backed up to discs or an external HDD.


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#4
June 5, 2016 at 09:53:29
You should keep multiple copies of ANY files you wish to retain. In the case of personal files like photos you should keep even more. They are irreplaceable. I use both an external hard drive and CDR or DVDR to archive things I don't want to lose.

Many things can happen to cause the loss. Hard drive crash, virus, theft, catastrophic loss, etc. If you move the files off the laptop completely then remember you should still keep two copies of more. If the photos are extremely important consider off site storage.

Be sure to verify any copies actually work. DO NOT use CUT 7 Paste. Instead use COPY & Paste. Finally, flash drives are not very dependable and should not be used for long term storage.


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#5
June 5, 2016 at 10:47:22
Thanks, Derek, Razor, riider, OTH, for the handy tools and info. I'll be working on it, digesting and trying things.

Looking back, I was "OldSchool" here and also "W2000user" at one time, and remember receiving much expert help from y'all. Thanks again.

I'll be looking closely at what's taking up so much space. Probably pictures and music, as "riider" alluded to. She's a real collector, spends enormous amounts of time on Facebook and Pinterest. I don't go to either site myself, (tried FB for 3 days, quit when a good discussion got deleted. It's not my cup-o-tea.) but she hangs out there to stay in contact with all the family members and find meaningful (?) discourse.

I've always been of the opinion that FB and Pinterest store their pics remotely, so it's not hogging up space. But I think this used to be my son's computer as well, before his mom, and as a music lover, he had a lot of stuff on it already.

I actually have a small external drive sitting around under a pile of papers, bought but never installed. It's a WD "My Passport/Ultra", and has a terabyte storage. I can't believe how long it's been since I bought it. I'll see if I can't find some files to "shuffle off to Buffalo", on the Passport.. Either that, or I'll sell the thing and get something newer. But I suspect this ought to suffice.

Thanks again. I'll stay in touch.

As to the "best response", I can't say at the moment, it seems it should be shared between several people, rightfully, since all had good input.


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#6
June 5, 2016 at 11:25:57
If you don't know what's eating up space, I suggest WinDirStat.

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#7
June 6, 2016 at 13:20:39
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"...and remember receiving much expert help from y'all"

Shouldn't that be all y'all? ;-)


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#8
June 6, 2016 at 14:13:18
I reckon. <( : o

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June 20, 2016 at 16:05:06
I decided to award "riider" with the "best answer", since each response was so valuable, addressing several different issues, and "riider" was the only responder who added a moment of levity, for which he/she ought to be commended. As has been said,,"laughter is the best medicine". (Though, to be accurate, all of the other responses, including those from "riider", were more "useful" in actually addressing the problem. )

Thanks to all, again.

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