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Solved Help getting files from old NT box to Mac over network

January 17, 2021 at 10:13:41
Specs: Macintosh
Been trying to get the iMac to connect with a windowsNT 4 pc. The iMac shows up in network neighborhood, but when I double click on the iMac get an error message - "\\imac is not accessible.  The network path was not found.

From the windowsNT PC, I can successfully ping the iMac by name and IP address, and can ping from the PC from the iMac. This is how the iMac sharing is configured:

- have a public folder set as the shared folder, with everyone identified as having read and write privileges
- under sharing/options,"share files and folders using SMB (Windows) is selected
- below that, have the "on" button checked for the accounts I have on the iMac.

I have tried to connect to systems running Mac OS Sierra, High Sierra, 2 x Mojave and Catalina


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#1
January 18, 2021 at 05:55:19
SMB networking between such disparate OSs can be difficult due to differences in versions of SMB (particularly with regard to authentication). For a one-off transfer of files the easiest method is to copy the files to an external drive. For more continual use, FTP is a good alternative - it has the advantage of being considerably faster than SMB, but is not quite so convenient.

If you are still using NT, and that computer is on your network, you would be well advised to ensure that no computers on that network are also connected to the Internet.

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#2
January 18, 2021 at 14:21:23
Thank you ijack for your reply. What I really want to do is just get some pics and some video off the old NT box. I'm curious about your last line

"If you are still using NT, and that computer is on your network, you would be well advised to ensure that no computers on that network are also connected to the Internet."

Is this because of security or does this somehow affect how the systems see each other on the network?

I have the NT box and the 1 of the macs hardwired to my FIOS router (Other macs are on wifi). How would I prevent them from being connected to the internet if using the router as a switch?

Sorry for my layman's terms I'm no IT professional.


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#3
January 19, 2021 at 01:27:56
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Security. NT is so out of date that it is a serious security risk and could act as a gateway into your network.

As for transferring the pics and video, an external drive would be the simplest and quickest solution. NT doesn't support USB flash drives directly, but a driver can be found here" http://smallvoid.com/article/winnt4... (the first link is broken, but the Dell one works).


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#4
January 24, 2021 at 11:01:16
Sorry iJack did not see your reply. This is great!

On to my next roadblock.

Other than google.com I can't get to any other websites (even if I click to get to gmail.com or any other google service, I just get a "this site can not be reached" error). So getting the 3rd party driver on to my NT box is now my problem. I can't get to the the page that has the link you supplied with the dell driver, I feel like I'm so close in so many ways but just cant grab the golden ring.

With the network I can ping both ways. I can see all the macs I have in the network neighborhood panel but when I either use run and type in the IP address of any of the macs I get the \\"machine name" is not accessible. The network path was not found. If I try from the mac depending on connecting SMB or CIFS I get either no other users can log on to this system or the network you are trying to reach is unsupported.

I know CIFS is supposed to force SMB1 but I've also read that it's better to use a terminal command to force the mac(s) to use SMB1.

The internal is a SCSI HDD formatted FAT 32 do you know of any hardware or drive dock that I can put the SCSI HDD in that I can hook up to a Mac. Online there are SCSI to USB cables/adapters to be found but they are all used and seem to only work with very old Mac OS - pre OSX

Banging my head against a wall but thanking you again for your sage advice to date.


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#5
January 26, 2021 at 00:43:57
Just one additional thought. Have you tried connecting to the NT box via the ip address? I.e. try \\192.168.1.1 (substitute the appropriate address) rather than \\computername.

I'm afraid that I am not aware of any external SCSI boxes or cables that can be used with recent Macs. There used to be SCSI->Firewire adapters but it's quite a while since Macs had Firewire connections.

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