Only boots up in safe mode

Dell / Vostro 1500
July 12, 2009 at 23:55:44
Specs: windows ME, 2.8ghz /512mb
I had a computer given to me.It used to be part of a network. I deleted the dos partition and repartitioned it .I then had to reformat the h/drive .First I installed win98_se but when it reached the booting windows part it hung on the windows 98 screen.I switched it off and then tried to reboot but it would only reboot in safe mode.I thought it maybe my software so I reformatted again and loaded up ME.The same thing happened . ( It will only boot in safe mode). I'm not sure what or if anything can be done in safe mode to fix my problem.
I would appreciate any help that you could give me.

Regards Ancient


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#1
July 13, 2009 at 13:25:20
Just to be sure, the machine you're having the problem with is the 2.8 gig with 512 of ram? If not post back specs on the problem PC.

There were some problems with faster cpus with 95 and 98 first edition but I haven't heard of any with ME. But just in case try to underclock the cpu to less than 2.2 gig. Also drop the ram to 256 (if possible) as 512 is where ram problem start with 9X/ME. Then format and try the installation again.

Check Dell's support page for that model but you'll probably have a problem finding ME drivers for that too.


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#2
July 13, 2009 at 17:17:33
Thanks for your reply Daveincaps.The specs are right but I don't know how the vostro 1500 got in there.It's a small flat case no name desktop, cream case with a blue front.I will try to do what you suggest . I can reduce the ram but I'm not sure how to underclock the cpu.If you could tell me that would be good otherwise I will look it up somewhere.I just need to get an operating system on the h/d so I can load XP Professional as the disk I have is only a update and can't be installed on it's own.

Regards Ancient


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#3
July 13, 2009 at 19:36:46
If you can underclock it the option should show in cmos/bios setup. But if your goal is to install XP then I think you can do that with an upgrade disk. Just boot up with the upgrade disk and start the installation. At some point it should ask you to insert the disk of a previous OS--like 98 or ME--so it can verify you qualify for an update. The update disk has all the files as the full version, it just has that extra step of needing to verify you qualify. At least that's the way it worked for upgrade disks for previous OS's. Anyway, give that a try. Maybe you won't even have to mess with installing ME.

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#4
July 17, 2009 at 00:44:15
Thanks DAVEINCAPS for that advice.Couldn't do any of that but after a bit of mucking around in msconfig I eventually was able to boot up win98. Now I have another problem. Althow the cd rom is listed in the BIOS it is not recognised in the device list.I tried installing it through control panel but because it is not listed in the p/p devices I can't load the drivers. I downloaded the drivers for the C: drive but I can't install them.I think I can add a line in the config.sys file and load the drivers in c:drive somewhere but I don't know exactly know how to go about it.

Regards Ancient


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#5
July 17, 2009 at 14:58:22
It's probably the chipset/motherboard drivers that are lacking. 98 is too old to have the drivers to properly set up the IDE controllers, to which the cdrom is connected. The solution is to boot up with the 98 cd or 98 bootdisk and choose 'cdrom support'. Then copy the contents of the cd with the drivers to the hard drive. Then reboot normally into windows, browse to the location of the copied drivers and run them from the hard drive.

After booting with the 98 cd or bootdisk you should end up at a dos prompt. You could type MD C:\DRIVERS and enter to create a folder to copy to. Then with the driver disk in the cdrom type C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\XCOPY D:\*.* C:\DRIVERS/E (there's a space between XCOPY and D:\ and another between *.* and C:) and enter, where D: would be the cdrom drive letter. (It's probably going to be D: or E: depending on what you use to boot up with. The actual drive letter should show when first booting up with the cd or disk and may be different than what you'd expect it to be in windows.)

Then reboot normally into windows and browse to the drivers folder and run the driver installation program.


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#6
July 20, 2009 at 02:09:30
Thanks DAVIDINCAPS for your advice .I did what you said and have the files in c:drivers but have been unable to run them.I'm not sure how to "RUN" them from the drivers folder.
Which file is the driver instalation program?

Regards Ancient


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#7
July 20, 2009 at 18:48:09
Post back the download link you used and the file you downloaded.

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#8
July 20, 2009 at 19:35:34
DAVEINCAPS.

I'm not if this last response is for me. I didn't download any files but copied them from my 98 startup disk "A"drive to a folder "Drivers" on my C Drive.
Having read your previous response again I'm not sure if I have understood it properly.Did you mean for me to copy the whole instalation disk to c:\drivers and then browse to the drivers folder and run the driver instalation program.
If so I have had a look at the drivers folder on the disk and still am not sure how to do that as the folder has other folders within that folder.
Sorry to be such a bother

Regards Ancient


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#9
July 20, 2009 at 22:31:10
The 98 bootdisk isn't going to have what you need. You can set up dos support for the cdrom that way but not windows support. As I mentioned in #5 above, 98 doesn't have support for the hardware on the motherboard. You need the 98 chipset drivers for that. They're not going to be on the 98 cd or bootdisk because that motherboard hadn't been invented when 98 came out.

The drivers you need will be on the motherboard or system manufacturer's site or the chipset manufacturer--like Intel. If it's a Dell computer, post back its model number or service tag number. If it's just some generic setup then I'd need the motherboard model number. That may show on the posting screen or you may have to open the case. It should be written on the motherboard somewhere.


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#10
July 22, 2009 at 19:58:43
DAVEINCAPS

I downloaded the drivers from intel (Motherboard isD915 GAG/D915 psy 01) (Driver for chipset is AIOS 8.3.1. 1009PV Intel exe) copied it to C\:Drivers but when I double click it I get this message :INF_0002 file is linked to missing Shell32DLL:SH Create Directory ExA When I click OK I get this message:C\:Drivers\inf_0002.exe A Device attached to The System is not Functioning.
I noticed that when I copied the file in dos to the H/Drive it changer the name to INF_0002.exe.
I tyied to run it from the cd rom it said can't run this file in dos and it's too big for a:

Thanks again for helping me out .

Regards Ancient



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#11
July 22, 2009 at 20:47:09
DAVEINCAPS

Sorry
I left out a word in that last message there should have been the word "Export " between Missing and Shell32DLL

regards Ancient


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#12
July 22, 2009 at 23:23:52
The missing export error usually means the file you're running--the inf update--is expecting a newer version of shell32.dll. I thought it might be because you could be running 98 first edition and the update is only for 98 second edition and up. But I tried to run it on my 98 SE and got the same error. Possibly intel meant it for win ME and above. An older inf update version might run OK. Intel used to link to older versions on the download page but I didn't see any when I downloaded the update.

You could try googling "shell32.dll shcreatedirectoryexa" and see if you get anything helpful. I don't have time to check right now.


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#13
July 23, 2009 at 11:00:24
I found this:

http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Det...

It installed OK on my 98 SE system. Funny thing, I had to run it twice. The first time it started the extraction and then the windows closed. I shut down AOL and everything else I had running and tried it again. That time it went OK. You'll know if it installs OK if, after it's done it asks to reboot the system.


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#14
July 31, 2009 at 00:34:27
Thanks Dave/ic

I went to that site and downloaded another version of the BIOS update.I havn't had time to try it yet.
My Mother fell over and broke her hip so I have been a bit busy for the last few days.I will get back to the computer in a couple of days.Thanks again for your help.
Regards Ancient


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#15
August 3, 2009 at 02:51:52
Well Dave/IC you will pleased to know that after installing the BIOS update (infinst_enu.exe)and installing another cd driver the cd drive is working .
Thanks very much for your help and perseverance.

Regards Ancient.


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#16
August 3, 2009 at 12:04:27
You're welcome. I don't know why Intel listed the first update as applying to 98 since it obviously wasn't. Also, technically, that was a chipset update. A bios update is for the bios on the motherboard. I'm glad you got it going.


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