Solved Install windows ME on old pc

August 8, 2015 at 10:05:35
Specs: Windows ME, Pentium 2 / 64mb
Ok,the description won't be too long:
I have a 64mb ram pc that mounts WinXP,and I want to format it and do a clean install of Windows ME.
I have a usable floppy drive and I have installed plop boot manager,so i can boot from usb sticks.
Now,I tried mounting the iso on the stick with a couple programs,but none of them seem to support my ISO or install the boot manager correctly,cause I can't run the installer on the pc.If there's a way to boot from floppy and then install from usb (let floppy and usb interact) it would be great.Or anyways manage to install it.
Please,keep in mind that I'm not english,so if you can,use basic language with me.Thanks!

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August 9, 2015 at 00:26:36
A regular dos/98/ME bootdisk won't recognize a USB drive. That's probably why you couldn't find its drive letter after booting from whatever it was you booted from. You have to add certain drivers to config.sys and even then it sometimes doesn't work out but bootdisk.com (linked to above) has some help in that area.

But why don't you just spend $5 or $10 and get a good used cd or dvd rom? I just picked up a couple DVD burners on ebay for around $5 each.



#1
August 8, 2015 at 10:21:42
I've never tried to install a pre-XP version using a USB stick. Is there some reason why you don't want to create a WinME CD? You will most likely need to boot off a WinME boot floppy to start the installation.

http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm


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#2
August 8, 2015 at 10:25:53
My pc has broken cd drive,so i really can't do it by there.
Yeah,I have a boot floppy,and it boots,but then I don't know what to do.I opens a console (Something like "A:>") but I don't know what to do at that point.
Can you help me?

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#3
August 8, 2015 at 11:58:29
You will have to run Windows setup from the DOS prompt. Do you know which drive letter is being given to the USB stick? All you will need to do is change from A:\ to whatever that letter is. Let's say the USB drive is X. From the A:\> prompt, type X: & press enter. Then at the X:\> prompt, type setup & press enter. That should start the installation. Here's what it should look like:

A:\>
A:\>X: [Enter]
X:\>
X:\>setup [Enter]

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#4
August 8, 2015 at 13:55:04
Ok,that's something,thanks.
I wasn't able to select my usb drive (I'm sure of the letter,but it just say that is invalid drive location or something like that)
I noticed that I can select C,but it seems to not enter in folders.
So,what if I put installation files in C and try like that?
And can you tell me if there's a way to enter in folders,so I don't mess with the hard disk and put all in a "windowsME" folder?

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August 9, 2015 at 00:26:36
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A regular dos/98/ME bootdisk won't recognize a USB drive. That's probably why you couldn't find its drive letter after booting from whatever it was you booted from. You have to add certain drivers to config.sys and even then it sometimes doesn't work out but bootdisk.com (linked to above) has some help in that area.

But why don't you just spend $5 or $10 and get a good used cd or dvd rom? I just picked up a couple DVD burners on ebay for around $5 each.


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#6
August 9, 2015 at 01:41:14
I really have to do it with only what I have at home,at the moment.So please,help me with what I asked.
I don't find anything in Bootdisk.com that can install usb drivers or something,can I do it by myself or can you link my the fix to my problem?
Anyways,I was wondering if I could do it with my drive C: (keep in mind that Windows is installed on drive E:,so I can delete only E and leave C as it is).How about it?

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August 9, 2015 at 02:35:54
This is the bootdisk.com link for dos USB support:

http://www.bootdisk.com/usb.htm

As you can see there's no single way to do it. You have to load a driver to recognize the USB port and then a driver to support what's plugged into the port.

PLOP, is that software you install on the hard drive that runs on bootup and then allows a software solution to boot from USB?

What is drive C: and what is drive E:? Are they partitions on a single hard drive or separate drives?

On a regular ME installation disk the setup files are in a directory called WIN9X. If you copy that directory onto a hard drive you can install ME from there. If XP is now on a separate drive you can do the copying with xp running. Then remove the xp drive, boot with an ME bootdisk and start the installation from the remaining drive that has the installation files.

But first tell us what's the deal with the two drives.


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#8
August 9, 2015 at 02:57:38
So,if I am right,I can copy the WIN9X directory into my empty disk C: (I checked a few minutes ago and I discovered that I have nothing on it) and from the fdisk on the boot floppy,format the drive where XP is installed (E:). Will it work in the same way of removing it?
Plop is exactly what you said,it installs a normal boot manager but from there you can boot from usb,thing that on my bios wasn't possible.
Drive C: and drive E: are,most likely,two separate drives,'cause if i try to format them from the windows ME boot floppy,even if I say to delete all partitions,the drives are still two.(I didn't build this pc,so I really don't know how it is)

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August 9, 2015 at 14:05:22
Have you ever been able to successfully boot from USB on that system using PLOP? or is this a 1st time thing? I've never used it so I'm curious if you've worked with it before.

How did you prepare the USB drive? Did you make it bootable & then copy over the WinME files/folders to it? You mentioned the ISO, did you unpack it 1st?

Peazip will unpack it: http://www.peazip.org/

EDIT: just a reminder that Win9x/ME won't install to an NTFS partition, nor can it read it.

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#10
August 9, 2015 at 16:49:10
You can check in bios setup to see how the drives are identified. If it shows two then that's what you've got. Or open the case and look inside. If there are two I'd just disconnect the xp drive after copying over the necessary files. That way if something goes awry you'll still have xp.

As riider says you'll need to make sure C: is partitioned as fat or fat32 (depending on its size) and not NTFS. You can do that with the ME bootdisk or I think you can do it from within xp.

FDISK and FORMAT are two different commands. Running fdisk gives you partition info and the ability to create and remove them. Format prepares the partition for use. You have to be careful using fdisk when you have more than one drive as it may specify drive letters differentliy than does windows resulting in some people deleting the wrong partition.

Also note you'll need an ME product key and ME driver support for the motherboard and any added cards.


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#11
August 10, 2015 at 03:48:39
Ok I know the fact of fat32,and I already formatted it (It was ntfs),and yes,I already used plop boot manager to run a couple linux,and it worked.
I used Rufus with windows XP and for linux I used Unetbootin.But for windows ME it didn't work,so I tried with a program called Easy2boot,but it just won't boot.
What do you mean with "you'll need a ME product key and ME driver support for the motherboard and any added cards."? Can't I install without the key? maybe installing it later?
I'm trying peazip now and post results anyway.

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#12
August 10, 2015 at 04:29:31
Peazip is just an extractor,so using it the result is the same that doing it with winrar,7zip,etc.
Thanks for the tip,anyways.

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#13
August 10, 2015 at 10:14:36
Yeah you should be able to bypass the product key when installing. I'm not sure how long you have before one must be entered. ME is not like XP and later products where the key is registered with MS so any ME key should work, although I'm sure it's like 98 in that the formula on the disk that determines if the key you enter is valid is different for OEM and MS installation versions.

The installation disk may or may not have all the drivers you need for the PC's hardware. If it doesn't (as determined by what shows in device manager after the install) you'll need to find them elsewhere--usually the support page for your system or motherboard or the hardware manufacturer.

If you get the flash drive to boot that's great but if you get the installation files copied to the drive then you only need to boot with an ME (or 98) floppy bootdisk to do the install.


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#14
August 10, 2015 at 11:39:51
Ok,now I got it.
The problem is: when trying to format the c drive to FAT32,I err...formatted E drive..
So now I've got no OS on this PC.Can I use a linux like dsl to copy files? where's the file manager in those os? I'm really scared of trying one of those.

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#15
August 10, 2015 at 21:39:00
Oh, you've really made things more complicated. Are you sure you don't want to spend a few bucks and buy a cd or dvd drive?

When you formatted was PLOP removed? If so can you reinstall it from floppy on a blank drive? If you get plop working at least you can boot from USB. I've never used linux but have heard good things about puppy linux:

http://puppylinux.org/main/Overview...

You should be able to boot it from USB and, once loaded, be able to copy the ME installation files which I assume are ready to go on another flash drive.


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#16
August 11, 2015 at 00:29:19
No,plop is still here.I'm using puppy linux but reaching the internal drives seems really difficult,because the names are all different and it shows me a lot of folders that I never saw,but I'm trying.I'll let you know later.

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#17
September 16, 2015 at 07:18:33
DAVEINCAPS is right when he says the most easy solution is to buy a cheap CD/DVD drive.

If you would live near me (I live in the Netherlands) I would give you a CD rom drive for free because I have too many old hardware lying around ;-).

For a long time I havent looked at ME, but yesterday I have installed ME on a 'super' computer I made from spare parts (Celeron III @ 1Ghz, 256 Mb Ram, 80Gb IDE drive).

The ME installation CD I have is not bootable for some reason (its a Microsoft Select Volume License CD) so I ran into similar problems.

The most easy solution was to startup from a Windows 98 CD with support for a CD/DVD drive and after starting changing the 98 CD with the ME installation CD. (then at the DOS prompt: change to D: ---> CD WIN9X --> setup.exe)

If you are not able to get a CD Rom drive here's what you can do:

Remove the harddisk and prepare it on another computer.
You already did a FAT32 format I guess, but you also have to copy the content of the WinME installation directory (WIN9X) to a directory on this harddrive.

Now you can boot from an MS-DOS floppy, change to the C: drive and go the WIN9X directory and start the setup.exe from there.

Its quite similar to what I did myself yesterday, but you have to prepare your harddisk first on another computer.

I thinks it is the most simple and easy solution, so forget about using USB or Linux loaders and other bootdisks (although WinME supports USB after installation, it is not recommended to rely on USB before installion of ME....)


BTW my ME machine is superfast, it boots in less than 10 seconds ! (about 5 seconds when I start counting from "Verifying DMI pool data" which is part of the Bios ;-)
The reason why I am preparing it is because I have bought a very good second hand PCI soundcard (Guillemot Maxi Studio Isis) which I am going to use

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