windows by-passing start -up files

March 1, 2013 at 09:38:59
Specs: windows 98
windows by-passing start-up files and displays a c:\ prompt
Please respond with simple instructions,if any, as I am a senior citizen with little computer knowledge
Sam

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#1
March 1, 2013 at 10:17:10
At the C: prompt type Win and hit Enter key.

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#2
March 1, 2013 at 13:31:46
the suggested solution Win and hit enter key brings up Bad command or file name against the C:\ prompt.
any other ideas?

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#3
March 1, 2013 at 15:08:49
Windows isn't bypassing anything, it's not loading.

- Type scanreg /restore & press ENTER
- use the arrow keys to select a date to restore to & press ENTER
- wait for a message saying it was restored
- press ENTER to restart


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#4
March 1, 2013 at 15:15:44
Just to add that DOS commands are very fussy, they have to be "exactly" right.
It's scanreg /restore with just the one space and a forward slash not a backslash. Once finished restart the computer.

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#5
March 1, 2013 at 23:00:09
It's odd you got that response when you typed win. Win.com is in the windows directory and that path is specified in your msdos.sys file. Maybe msdos.sys is corrupted.

Apparently that problem can also be caused by bad ram which can keep himem.sys from loading.

Did anything happen to it or did you make any changes to it between the last time it worked OK and the first time it didn't?


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#6
March 3, 2013 at 09:27:41
scanreg / enter did not work,
still looking for solutions
machine shows C:\> prompt at present

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#7
March 3, 2013 at 09:53:53
scanreg / enter is not what was suggested. Did you do it as per #4 and exactly what happened ("did not work" could mean anything)?

Are you trying to re-install Windows or did this problem just suddenly come along?

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#8
March 4, 2013 at 02:35:13
the scaneg /restore idea only gives window to read bad command or file name.
your help is appreciated.
I am trying to start the computer dell gx110 which will momentarily "bilnk"
windows 98 then disappear.
preserntly showing :memory write/read failure at 10000004,read 00EF00AA expecting 00EF00EF

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#9
March 4, 2013 at 07:28:41
You usually get "bad command or file name" due to a mis-type, so assuming you
typed it exactly as written then maybe it is due to one of the suggestions in #5.

We need the background to your problem.
Was W98 originally working and then suddenly went wrong?
Have you been trying to reload Windows?
Is this a brand new install of W98?

Try one more command - type this and hit Enter key:
dir
A number of folders and files should appear on the screen.
This might tell us something so let us know what happens.

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#10
March 4, 2013 at 14:34:48
Well that's a start. After 3 days we finally know what computer you have. It looks like the gx110 was a 667 mhz P-III with 128 meg of ram and a 10 gig hard drive so 98 shouldn't have a problem running on it.

The momentary 98 splash screen and then the c:\> prompt often means the drive is empty except for the 98 dos system files. Or in your case bad ram may be preventing himem.sys from loading which keeps windows itself from running.

Unfortunately since you're still parsing out information like droplets from a dripping faucet our responses are just as slow and the help we give is as generic as the facts you provide.


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#11
March 7, 2013 at 04:28:00
I have been trying to reload windows with bootup disks for 95 / 98 windows .
I know these are probably out of date but being a senior citizen the challenge to get the machine running is hard to resist.
This machine has been unsed for come time.

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#12
March 7, 2013 at 05:22:28
Yes the dir prompt does give a list .
Where do I go from this point
Thanks

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#13
March 7, 2013 at 06:42:05
OK, so you are trying to reload Windows then.

As it seems to have backfired then best to start again. The procedure depends on what bootdisk you are using.

Is it a floppy disk or CD?
If it is a floppy disk then was it one made previously in Windows?
If it was a downloaded disk which one and where did you get it from?

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#14
March 7, 2013 at 07:01:11
As the machine(s) 2 were given to me by a friend who was replacing them,they came with start up disks for both windows 95 & 98.
I know these are probably out of date by now but if I could get the machine
started up I would like to upgrade the o.s. if possible.
Just a senior citizen who likes a challenge

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#15
March 7, 2013 at 07:46:42
on switching on machine with no disks loaded the computer
blinks windows 98 then reads
microsoft (R) windows 98
(C) Copyright Microsoft Corp 1981-1998.
C:\>

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#16
March 7, 2013 at 15:10:52
Forget upgrades, W98 is likely to be their max due to hardware limitations, so
W98 is obviously the best one to try if possible.

Are these startup disks "floppies" or "CD's"?

Have you a Windows Disk - without it you cannot install?

Unless you answer our questions we can make no headway at all - we can't read your mind or see what you have. Don't worry about the senior citizen bit; it's not an issue, I'm 77 next September myself.

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#17
March 7, 2013 at 16:28:18
You might want to do a dir c:\windows and enter from the c:\> prompt. If it scrolls through a lot of files then windows may be there. If it gives an error or shows few if any files then it's not. If it shows a lot of files then maybe you've got the wrong msdos.sys file or it needs to be edited. But as Derek says, it may be best to do a reinstall, assuming you have the cd. I'm sure the gx110 will boot from the cdrom. Most 98 cd's are bootable so you wouldn't actually need to use a floppy bootdisk, although you can.

Your original post says it was giving the 'windows is bypassing your startup files' message. I guess it's not doing that now?

Also, I'm still not sure if your other thread is about a different computer.


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#18
March 8, 2013 at 03:52:05
4 floppys came with the machine as follows
microsoft windows 98 boot disk with cd rom support
windows 98 start-disk for dell
windows 98 start disk dated june 2010
windows 98 start up disk
&
2 windows 98 cds (1 with a certificate of authority)
i have tried various conbinations but no success

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#19
March 8, 2013 at 19:55:20
First post back what is written on the cd's. We need to know if they are full version, upgrade disk or some companion-type disks.

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#20
March 10, 2013 at 12:13:52
1. make sure to have the boot order set correctly in the BIOS - floppy, CD, hard drive. Check it & change the order if necessary. Make sure to save the changes when you exit.

2. boot up with the "microsoft windows 98 boot disk with cd rom support" floppy & select, "with CD support". Watch the screen for the letter to be used by the CD drive.

3. at the A:\> prompt, enter the letter for the CD drive (E: for example), then press Enter. The A:\> prompt will change to the E:\> prompt.

4. put the Win98 CD in the drive. At the E:\> prompt, type SETUP & press Enter.


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#21
March 12, 2013 at 07:22:01
the windows 98 disks give a ref; cd 1303 and states the disk is for new PC only
and gives the following ref; 0398. Part No;X03- 36182 Genuine ASP0301
Is this the info; you require?
Thanks again

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#22
March 12, 2013 at 07:43:47
At the A prompt I have entered E and the screen reads CDR 101not ready
reading drive E
Abort-Retry-Fail
drive E= device name mscd 001
Is this info; of any use?
Thanks for your reply

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#23
March 12, 2013 at 20:31:25
I think that's a 98 first edition OEM full install cd.

When you got the 'not ready reading drive E:' was that cd in the cdrom? Does it have more than one cd device? If so the other one may be drive E:. Otherwise the cd or cdrom may be bad or dirty.

That cd should be bootable. Go into cmos/bios setup and set the cd drive as the first boot device, save and exit setup and reboot with the 98 cd in the cdrom. Does it boot up?


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#24
March 13, 2013 at 15:35:20
Re-read response # 20. Follow the steps exactly. Note that E was used as an example, the letter used for your setup may be different, that's why I wrote "Watch the screen for the letter to be used by the CD drive" in step 2.

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#25
March 17, 2013 at 05:35:52
with a windows 98 boot disk in and windows 98 cd in the cd drive I get a choice of whether to enter from the hard disk or cd rom,whichever I select
only gives a screen with a cursor blinking and no activity from the keyboard. HELP!!!
Thanks again

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#26
March 17, 2013 at 17:54:37
You're booting from the cd because that's the only time the hard drive/cdrom option comes up. It's booting from the cd and ignoring the floppy bootdisk. You must have the cdrom as the first boot device. If you want to boot from the floppy disk you need to set the floppy drive as the first boot device.

When you select to boot from the cdrom it should continue and not just stop. There may be a problem with the cd or cdrom.

Go ahead and set the floppy as the first boot device and reboot as you did before, with both the floppy and cd in. You may get the same results but give it a try.


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#27
March 17, 2013 at 19:12:23
I just tested this on my Windows 95 laptop.

On my Windows 95 laptop, win (win.exe) is located in C:\Windows. Not in the C:\ directory.

To execute you must type C:\Windows\win, which will then start Windows.

On my system, C:\win does nothing, it just results in Bad command or file name. You must type exactly C:\Windows\win.

See here: http://sdfox7.com/win95/WIN.BMP

http://sdfox7.com


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#28
March 18, 2013 at 17:56:34
One more time, re-read response # 20 & follow the steps exactly. You apparently did NOT change the boot order to floppy, CD, hard drive.

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