Solved Windows 98 and 1GB RAM

March 9, 2011 at 00:01:25
Specs: Windows 98SE, Intel (R) Pentium (R) 4 2.4GHz, 1GB RAM
I have heard that Windows 98 doesn't support more than 512MB RAM.

However, I successfully installed and am running it with 1GB RAM. I'm
running on a D845GEBV2 motherboard.

I would think it would either work -or not- work, I wonder why there
is so much variation, according to what I have read online.

See here and here.

In other news, I also found that installing setpoint241enu.exe gave me
immediate access to my 8GB SanDisk Cruzer and SD media card
reader on Windows 98 by using the updated USB Mass Storage driver
included in that package (C:\Program Files\SetPoint\Drivers\Win98).

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March 9, 2011 at 07:26:58
The answer is yes. Windows 9x can be patched to use up to 4GB of RAM.
I run 1.5GB on my current setup in 98SE, but I have a machine under construction that will be using 4GB.

See these pages:
http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/118...
http://rloew1.no-ip.com/

And the screenshots in this post:
http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/141...


And the idea that Windows 9x will not "use" over 512MB is ridiculous, another of the various 9x myths.



#1
March 9, 2011 at 00:59:26
yes windows 98 can run with i gig ram, it just doesnt manage or use it well so good luck :)

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#2
March 9, 2011 at 01:01:39
The over 512MB Patch has been around for YEARS, but W9x does not utilise the over 512MB , thats why ME is better IMO.

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#3
March 9, 2011 at 07:02:08
You don't see many people going to bat for WinME. Personally, I liked it better than Win98. I liked the look, it had better hardware/driver support, better USB support, & as long as it was properly tweaked & System Restore was disabled (& kept that way), it was every bit as reliable as Win98, if not moreso.

sdfox 7, I've seen many of your posts regarding Win98 & workarounds for running modern apps with it. I'm curious if you've experimented with 98Lite or KernelEX?

http://www.litepc.com/98lite.html

http://sourceforge.net/projects/ker...


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#4
March 9, 2011 at 07:26:58
✔ Best Answer
The answer is yes. Windows 9x can be patched to use up to 4GB of RAM.
I run 1.5GB on my current setup in 98SE, but I have a machine under construction that will be using 4GB.

See these pages:
http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/118...
http://rloew1.no-ip.com/

And the screenshots in this post:
http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/141...


And the idea that Windows 9x will not "use" over 512MB is ridiculous, another of the various 9x myths.


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#5
March 9, 2011 at 07:44:13
"The over 512MB Patch has been around for YEARS, but W9x does not utilise the over 512MB , thats why ME is better IMO."

X86, I didn't apply any patches; all I did was install Windows.

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#6
March 9, 2011 at 07:52:07
"sdfox 7, I've seen many of your posts regarding Win98 & workarounds for running modern apps with it. I'm curious if you've experimented with 98Lite or KernelEX?"

Mickliq, I didn't want to mess with 98lite because I do not want to lose the Win98 Explorer and compromise the genuine feel of the Win98 OS.

Yes, I have installed Kernel Ex. That's how I get Acrobat Reader, Firefox 4 Beta, and the current version of VLC to run (VLC's webpage even promotes the use of Kernel Ex, see here (scroll down).)

I have Logitech EX100 wireless desktop hooked up, little did I know that the USB drivers included for the reciever would also work with my USB Audio, 8GB San Disk Cruzer, and SD Multi-Card Reader. I would recommend everyone to download the setpoint241 and install the included drivers for your card readers if you don't have them, it contains USB 2.0 drivers for mass storage devices, and it the best solution I've seen yet for getting media card readers to work without having to make any separate hacks. I originally tried NUSB on mdgx.com with no success.This whole setup makes Windows 98 compatibility extremely close to XP while preserving MS-DOS compatibility..

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#7
March 9, 2011 at 10:17:23
"I didn't want to mess with 98lite because I do not want to lose the Win98 Explorer and compromise the genuine feel of the Win98 OS"

I'm not sure what you mean by that? You don't have to remove Explorer unless you want to.

There are several ways to use 98Lite. For instance, you can do a full blown install of Win98, then use it to remove certain features that you normally wouldn't have the option to remove, OR you can use it to alter the Win98 installation files so those features don't get installed in the 1st place, OR you can use it to "merge" Win95 & Win98 into a "hybrid" which is extremely fast. If you have another machine that you can experiment with, I highly suggest you give it a try.


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#8
March 9, 2011 at 12:34:59
I know about 98lite but I don't want to lose the authentic feel of the OS. And the one time I experimented with 98lite calculator and notepad stopped working!

I generally use the same computer for all OS's. I just pick which OS I want to boot from and limit my 2GB of RAM to 512MB in Windows 98 by modifying MSCONFIG. On my main desktop I have partitions for 98, NT 4.0, 2000, and XP (I have a TB hard disk drive).

I have Windows 95 on my other machines because it won't work with the 2.4GHz in this one due to the NDIS issue.

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#9
March 9, 2011 at 14:01:21
I still don't know what you mean by "authentic feel of the OS"? It's still Win98, only better. You are in complete control of what's removed or left behind. I've installed 98Lite on several different systems & everyone I've done it for loves it. I used to have it on my own system years ago but I've pretty much abandoned 9x/ME unless someone brings me a system that's in need of repair.

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#10
March 9, 2011 at 20:06:39
The problem with a large amount of ram in an unaltered 98 system is the ram takes up all the memory addresses:

http://support.microsoft.com/defaul...

Generally problems start at around 512 meg but 'your mileage may vary' and how it affects your particular system depends on your hardware and running softwre. Sometimes the PC will just sit there and continuously reboot:

http://www.computing.net/answers/wi...

The modifications to accomodate a large amount of ram have been discussed often here over the years. I uploaded some screen shots for 98 here:

http://members.driverguide.com/driv...

As I recall, that person used a different vcache than what MS recommended.

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#11
March 9, 2011 at 22:12:51
@sdfox7

"I have Windows 95 on my other machines because it won't work with the 2.4GHz in this one due to the NDIS issue."

Have you tried installing it using my FIX95CPU solution?


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#12
March 9, 2011 at 23:19:04
Lone,

That's INCREDIBLE...I had no idea!

I did Google search for FIX95CPU and found your thread on MSFN.

I'll have to give that one a try, although I'll have to do it on one of my other machines, because Windows 95 and 98 both require access to C: and I already have 98 installed on this one. Thanks!

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