My Win95 stays at the clouds screen.

July 13, 2011 at 16:05:07
Specs: Windows 95
One day, when I tried to boot up, it would say on the screen that Win.com was missing. So I put in a new copy and now, it does not boot right. When I turn on my Windows 95, it starts to boot up like normal. But when it get to the screen where there are clouds and it says Windows 95 Microsoft Plus in front of the clouds, a little blue bar keeps going across the screen at the bottom. The bar goes across for hours. I tried the Esc key, but it takes me to the C:\> I don’t know what to do.

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#1
July 13, 2011 at 16:11:27
Off the top of my head it sounds like you used the wrong win.com file version.

This might help:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/136630

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#2
July 13, 2011 at 16:25:37
Thanks Derek,
But that is the page I used to help me replace the Win.com file.

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#3
July 13, 2011 at 19:26:45
Does it boot to safe mode (Tap F8 before the OS starts to load)?

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#4
July 13, 2011 at 19:48:32
No, it does not Daveincaps.

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#5
July 13, 2011 at 22:39:02
@R211N @DAVEINCAPS

Does it boot to safe mode (Tap F8 before the OS starts to load)?

Need to tap F5; F8 is for NT-based OS's. Too much Windows XP Dave, LOL?

As soon as you see the "Starting Windows 95...", rapidly tap F5. After several seconds you should see a message that Windows is bypassing your startup files and testing HIMEM.SYS.

If Windows loads into Safe Mode successfully, try shutting down and rebooting without entering Safe Mode. See if it boots successfully.

I have a laptop from 1996 with Win95 and am happy to walk you through this.

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#6
July 13, 2011 at 23:16:22
You had me second guessing myself but I see what you mean now. I meant to choose safe mode from the F8 boot menu. I didn't know that with 95, F5 took you directly to safe mode:

http://johndanielsonii.name/Windows...


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#7
July 14, 2011 at 08:00:24
As I said in my last poast (#4) It will not boot into Safe Mode.

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#8
July 14, 2011 at 10:51:13
If you can't get Win95 to boot even in Safe Mode, then a clean install is probably your only other option. If you have another IDE system, hook the Win95 drive as a slave, copy everything you need to save, then re-install.

I'm sending you a private message for Windows 95.

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#9
July 14, 2011 at 12:26:47
sdfox 7
I have an OS CD, but DOS will not read my CD ROM. I tried to uninstall windows, but my computer will not let me do that. I tried my previous version of DOS, but I can’t access it. I tried deleting the win.com file using Edit.com, but that didn’t work ether. What should I do?

PS
My E-mail hasn’t been working, but that is something to fix later.


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#10
July 14, 2011 at 14:56:58
Assuming your cdrom is good you need a bootdisk with cdrom support. You can download that at bootdisk.com.

You wouldn't delete win.com using EDIT. You'd just boot to a dos prompt and type DEL C:\WINDOWS\WIN.COM and enter.

There's really no 'uninstalling' 95. You'd boot up with the bootdisk and at the a:\> prompt you'd type FORMAT C: and enter. When it's done there'll be nothing on the c: partition and you can reinstall 95.


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#11
July 14, 2011 at 15:40:23
Thanks DAVEINCAPS,

My CD ROM does work. I would like to reformat my hard drive to reinstall Windows. So I download the boot disk, went to my old 95, and put in the disk. I then went to the A:\> prompt and typed FORMAT C: Then, below to words I typed, it said, Incorrect Version of MS-DOS. And returned to the A:\> prompt. So how do I reformat?


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#12
July 14, 2011 at 15:56:51
You need to boot up with the boot disk--not with the hard drive. Just make sure the floppy drive is the first boot device in cmos/bios setup. Save the bios setup changes and exit setup. Make sure the bootdisk is in the a: drive and it should boot up from the bootdisk. Then do the FORMAT C: and you shouldn't have that problem.

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#13
July 14, 2011 at 16:48:53
Thank you! I have reformatted my hard drive. But when I tried to install Windows 95, it said I need a partition. The only drives I have now is my CD ROM and my floppy. I think I have an ATA (or something that begins with an A) hard drive, but I don’t no haw to make a partition. Once again, I don’t know what to do.

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#14
July 14, 2011 at 17:03:39
You partition with the FDISK command. But there should be one since you formatted it. Run fdisk from the bootdisk and choose option 4 and post back what it says.

Also look at the front of your 95 cd. If it's an OEM--one that says 'for distribution only with a new PC'--it'll show a line under that that says something like '0796 part no.' or '0795 part no.' or '0197 part no.' Post back whether it's 0796, 0795 or 0197.

edit And at the a:\> prompt after booting from the bootdisk type VER and enter and post back what it says.


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#15
July 14, 2011 at 17:16:51
The number is 0197. When I tried the FDISK command, it sain something about no drives. But I cant rember. Now what?

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#16
July 14, 2011 at 17:34:01
Fdisk errors would be 'no fixed disk present' or 'error reading fixed disk'. Either one is bad. That may be the cause of your original problem. But you may want to open the case and make sure the ribbon data cable connecting the drive is in good condition and firmly connected on both ends. Is the hard drive showing up in cmos/bios setup?

Also post back the VER results I mentioned in the edit above. If your bootdisk is for the original 95 version it won't support fat32 partitions and wouldn't recognize one if that's what was on your drive. Your cd is a later version that will recognize fat32. I thought that might be why the partition isn't being seen but that wouldn't give an fdisk error. So right now it seems like a physical problem with the hard drive.


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#17
July 14, 2011 at 18:12:49
I think I can’t partition the drive because I hit F4 and skip the hard drive the CMOS/BIOS setup. I did that because after I reformatted, if I don’t skip the hard drive, 95 tries to boot from the drive. When it can’t, it says non-system disk, put in system disk and press any key to continue.
You might tell me to change the boot sequence, but my battery is dead. I tried to replace it, but I can’t fined it anywhere on the motherboard.

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#18
July 14, 2011 at 19:01:53
Oh ok, if you hit F4 when it's posting then it skips the drive detection. If you then run fdisk it'll give an error because the bios thinks there's no drive.

Your battery is probably one of those silver colored, flat things about the size of a nickel. If you have an older system like a 486 it's probably a rechargable battery near the keyboard socket. It'll be a short, fat cylinder, kind of like a miniature barrel.

Your boot order should be floppy first, then the hard drive. If it has a boot from cd option you can have it floppy, cdrom, hard drive. I don't think the 95 cd is bootable. If it was you could have the cdrom as the first boot device.

Even with the floppy as the first device you need to have the bootdisk in it pretty quick after you turn on the PC. Cause if the bios goes to the boot phase and no disk is in the floppy drive then it'll go to the hard drive and give you that error.

If you have the hard drive first, the boot process will stop there because it detects you have a drive and it'll try to boot from it and of course gives the non-bootable error. That's why the floppy drive has to be first in the order when you're booting from it.


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#19
July 14, 2011 at 22:08:24
Your battery may be dead although I have found many of these old school batteries on eBay.

Also, the CD-ROM is not bootable, but I myself got around this by using Nero 6 to create a bootable image.

See below; you need to select "Bootable Data Disc", then after selecting the Windows 95 image (not pictured), make sure on the next screen you have inserted the Windows 95 floppy disc so Nero can copy those files to use. Once the CD is burned you will have a bootable copy of Windows. I mainly did this because floppies corrupt over time and so do the drives.

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#20
July 15, 2011 at 12:38:53
I looked every where on the motherboard. I can't find the BIOS battery.

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#21
July 15, 2011 at 15:16:01
You may have an older motherboard that has a Dallas Semiconductor clock. Do you have a device that looks like a small domino. These had lithium batteries and are soldered in.

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#22
July 15, 2011 at 16:04:26
Thanks, I now know where my BIOS battery is. Houston Tech made it, and it is in a Real Time chip. So how can I replace it?

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#23
July 15, 2011 at 16:29:46
Google "Houston Tech battery".

Looks like it is soldered in and unless you are a wizz at minitature soldering it could be tricky - others have failed.

When it gets like this it probably makes sense to look around the second hand market for a cheap computer. XP would be a good choice if you can't go to anything later.

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#24
July 15, 2011 at 19:49:21
Even if the battery is bad that shouldn't stop you from reinstalling 95. As long as the PC is powered up the cmos circuitry is charged and will hold the settings. Just go into cmos/bios setup and make sure the boot order is floppy-first. Save and exit. The posting process will restart. DON'T HIT F4. Make sure you have the floppy bootdisk in already and it should boot from the floppy and recognize the hard drive.

Even if the battery is dead and cmos settings were lost, most of the time the boot order defaults to floppy first although yours may be different.

Post back the VER results I mentioned above. Your cd is a later version of 95 that's fat32 capable; your bootdisk may not be. You can use a 98 bootdisk to start the 95 installation.


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#25
July 20, 2011 at 19:30:51
I tried to change the boot order, but it staid CMOS checksum error-defaults loaded, CMOS battery failed. That is why I can not get it to boot from the floppy, because my default is to load from C: Is there a way I can make it so the default load is A: instead of C:?

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#26
July 20, 2011 at 22:40:38
No, to boot from the floppy drive it'll need to come before the hard drive in the boot order.

When you're in cmos/bios setup, set the date and time too as well as the boot order. Save and exit cmos. Don't turn off the computer. It should boot from the floppy. If it doesn't then I guess you'll have to get another battery.


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#27
July 21, 2011 at 09:05:22
I did what you said, but it does not work. After I set the time and changed the boot order so A: was before C: it tried to boot from C: The floppy light did not come on. I know the floppy drive works because I replaced it a few weeks ago. I right disk in too. I don't know why it does not work.

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#28
July 21, 2011 at 21:58:20
Make sure the floppy controller is enabled in cmos/bios setup and the drive properly identified. There may be an option there for 'floppy search' or something similar. Enable that. You may need to open the case and make sure the data cable is tightly connected and in good condition and the power cable connected.

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#29
July 23, 2011 at 07:46:18
Every thing you said to make sure it works is working fine. But I still can't reinstall Windows.

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#30
July 23, 2011 at 16:21:43
Although this is just an idea - how about hooking the drive up to another computer and removing all of the partitions
When the computer next boots, it will not find any bootable partitions on the disk drive and skip to the next device (should be the floppy drive)
From there you can then set up partitions and re-install windows!

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#31
July 23, 2011 at 21:56:57
Yeah, that would work assuming all is OK with the floppy drive.

Along that line, temporarily disconnect the hard drive so the floppy drive is the only boot device left connected. Then see if you can boot from it. If not, there must be some problem with the floppy drive, its connections or its configuration in cmos.

For the data cable connection, an a: drive needs to be after the 7-wire twist on the cable. That is, for a cable with connections for 2 drives it'd be attached this way:

motherboard--drive B:--7-wire twist--drive A:

If you attach it in the drive B: position the bios may not boot from it.


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#32
August 9, 2011 at 15:23:55
Sorry I have not replied recently, I have been away. I put in a different hard drive and it worked fine. Thanks for helping.

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#33
August 9, 2011 at 21:40:12
We're glad you got it working. Thanks for posting back.

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