is it possible to load windows 98se without a

July 21, 2011 at 09:26:56
Specs: Windows 98SE
is it possible to load windows 98se with a SATA CDrom?

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July 21, 2011 at 11:29:20
See if this info helps:

Installing Windows 98 SE on a newer (2004) PC

iMac G5 1.8GHz "Hero" PowerPC
2 x 1GB DDR PC3200 SDRAM
160GB WDC WD1600JD-40GBB2
Mac OS X Leopard Version 10.5.8

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July 21, 2011 at 23:19:31
So it's a SATA cdrom but a regular IDE hard drive? I don't think you can boot from a sata cdrom and install 98 as you would with a regular atapi cdrom. That's because the PC will reboot a couple times during the install and since 98 has no SATA support, the cdrom will no longer be seen. So with a SATA cdrom I think I'd copy the WIN98 folder from the cd to the hard drive and run the installation from the hard drive.

You'd need a bootdisk with a SATA cdrom driver to start things. GCDROM.SYS is a dos SATA cdrom driver and should work. Just add gcdrom.sys to the bootdisk and edit config.sys to load it instead of oakcdrom.sys. The link I have for gcdrom.sys is dead but a google search should turn up a download site.

Once you run the bootdisk and the cdrom is identified, partition and format the drive (if necessary) and copy the system files to the hard drive with the SYS command. Then create a WIN98 directory on the drive and copy the contents of the win98 directory on the cd to the win98 directory on the hard drive. Then reboot from the hard drive and start the installation from the dos prompt with C:\WIN98\SETUP.

Once installed, 98 still won't see the sata cdrom (unless there's 98 sata drivers I'm not aware of) but with gcdrom.sys you can probably use it in msdos compatibility mode. And as the link in sdfox's post shows, if this is part of a system with newer hardware you may have problems finding 98 drivers for a lot of the other stuff too.

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July 22, 2011 at 18:43:36
I did all of this already. I made a file: C:\>Windows\Options\Cabs and copied Windows to that file and then installed from that directory. It completed a full installation, but still will not boot up into Windows. I had somehow booted into Windows 98SE ten days ago with an active floppy drive and a CDrom on my R drive. But, after I installed NUSB33 to get an active USB Flash Drive working (which a friend said worked perfectly on an older computer) the system crashed!
. This new computer is being built for a computer programmer machinist who works with an older CNC machine (mills, lathes) and which programs in DOS. Since replacing the older CNC machines would run into six figures, plus $30,000.00 for new software, an OS with DOS is a far cheaper solution.
Anyway, since that time of the crash, I haven't been able to duplicate my earlier success. Randy, the machinist programmer needs an active Flash Drive to load the programs into the CNC Machines. He doesn't need sound, ethernet or video support so we're not worried about those drivers: just DOS with CDrom and Flash Drive support.


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July 22, 2011 at 22:55:47
What kind of hardware are you installing it on? 98 has problems with more than about 512 meg of ram and partitions larger than about 120 gig. For the ram just lower it to no more than 512 to do the install. After that's done some file modifications can be made to allow it to run with more than 512.

USB drive support is kind of iffy for 98. After a successful install of 98 you'll need to make sure the USB ports show up OK in device manager. If they're 2.0 ports you'll need to find 98 drivers. Then you'll need 98 drivers for the USB drive itself. This might help out with that:

Also, I assume you're installing 98 just for the flash drive support since you say it's a dos program. There's some success with dos support for USB drives. You might check this threaad and its links:

You could install something like freedos or just boot straight to win 98 dos after you get 98 installed on it.

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