How to set the maxphyspage for safemode in 98

September 19, 2011 at 22:09:00
Specs: Win 98
First off, I apologize if this post shows up 3 times.
I'm setting up a newer comp with win98 for a friend who wants to relive his youth through old games. I've added the maxphyspage line to system.ini and made it into normal mode just fine, but I need to get into safemode to mess with video drivers. I get the memory error when I try. Is there a way to set the maxphyspage size for safemode?

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#1
September 20, 2011 at 05:41:22
Why are you messing with the MaxPhysPage entry? How much RAM do you have?

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#2
September 20, 2011 at 07:34:13
It has 2Gb ram. So far I've found a solution to almost every problem. This one is giving me problems though. And yes, I know win98 is WAY outdated, but it's what he wants.

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#3
September 20, 2011 at 07:45:49
If the system is fairly new, you may run into problems finding drivers. Is Win98 going to be the sole OS? What about reducing the RAM amount to 512MB? Or how about installing XP & running the games in Win98 compatibility mode, or running Win98 in a virtual machine?

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#4
September 20, 2011 at 09:00:56
I think I've found all the drivers, the video card is still a maybe though. He just wanted 98 on there. He has tried compatibility mode and virtual machines and wasn't happy with performance. I think I can get the video driver working if I can get into safemode, but I run into the memory error.

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#5
September 20, 2011 at 09:07:42
As already mentinoed, just drop the ram to below 512, even just temporarily to setup video drivers. 98 can work with that much ram but there's no benefit; that is, it doesn't work any better with that much.

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#6
September 20, 2011 at 09:10:18
Oh, you might run MSCONFIG. There's an option somewhere there (I'm not on a 98 machine right now) to limit the available ram.

edit It's in the MSCONFIG--ADVANCED section.


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#7
September 20, 2011 at 11:07:11
There is not a maxphyspage size for Safe Mode, it is a global setting.

You could also try adding the following setting under [VCACHE] in system.ini:
MaxFileCache=524288
(or maybe a little less)
This also is a global settings as it is again in system.ini.

This way, with a limited cache, it should be possible to keep the large RAM in situ.

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#8
September 21, 2011 at 07:29:03
I'm still looking for my box of ram(things get lost when moving), but I've tried the edit to system.ini and the setting in msconfig. Neither affects safemode at all. I know I have a 512 stick of ram somewhere. I will post again once I've found it. Thanks for all the help so far.

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#9
September 21, 2011 at 08:42:28
It's mighty peculiar that the system.ini modifications didn't work in Safe Mode too.

Could you copy here the parts of the listings that show your modifications.

Thx

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#10
September 21, 2011 at 19:42:56
Maybe the problem is not just ram. Is it 98 first or second edition you're trying to install? First edition had problems with fast processors.

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#11
September 22, 2011 at 08:10:30
I found the ram! Safemode works just fine now. Just have to find where it's wanting to load the vxds for the graphics card twice. Probably in the registry. I think system.ini is one of the files that safemode doesn't load to avoid any problems that might have been from the lines in it.
Thank you all for your help.

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#12
September 22, 2011 at 18:22:20
You're welcome. We hope it all works out. Was it 98 first or second edition?

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#13
September 23, 2011 at 23:52:33
It is Win98SE

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#14
September 24, 2011 at 20:47:34
CPU speed shouldn't be a problem then.

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#15
September 26, 2011 at 19:23:34
Have to disagree with you about the RAM Dave, there is most definitely a benefit and an improvement in performance with more than 512 MB of RAM.

"Tweaking" the system files to try to run it however NEVER worked for me at all.

IMHO, the only way to get a machine running properly with >512MB of RAM is to buy Rudolph Loew's RAM Limitation Patch. I purchased it a few years back and have run 1.5-2GB of RAM on that machine and never looked back since.


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#16
September 27, 2011 at 06:03:47
Experiences obviously vary. On Win98SE I hardly noticed any difference when upping RAM from 256M to 512M. I was a well honed system so maybe that was the reason.

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#17
September 27, 2011 at 18:29:09
I always thought of ram vs efficiency for 98 as a bell shaped curve with amount of ram on the x-axis and system efficiency on the Y. The curve would intersect the X-axis at 0 ram and around 512 meg. (In reality it won't be 0 efficiency at 512 but that's where you start getting ram errors.) The peak--maximum efficiency--would be somewhere in between and may depend on what software was running. And that would be BEFORE any tweaks or patches are applied.

Anyway, that's how I always pictured it.


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