File sharing but no internet connection on 98

September 29, 2010 at 18:22:03
Specs: Windows 98SE, P200/128
I am having a problem with home networking that someone may be able to help me with. I have an old P200 Dell desktop with dual boot Win98SE and WinXP (SP3). I have this computer networked on a crossover ethernet cable to a newer P4 Titan running WinXP (SP3).

File sharing is no problem and works well between the newer P4 system and both systems on the older P200 system. I have the P4 system set up as "PC1", the XP system on the older P200 as "PC2", and the 98SE system on there as "PC3".

However when I set up the internet connections for these I ran into problems. I can only get browser access on the XP system on the older computer through the network.

But as for 98SE, the internet is just not working. No matter what setting I have tried it will not work. I have tried running the ICU wizard many times, but this seems broken and does nothing. I am possibly missing some very simple step or perhaps something is wrong in my settings in Explorer 6. It seems that sharing needs to be enabled but I cannot understand how to do this and the ICU wizard is not very helpful. In fact it makes little sense to me.

I am running Explorer 8 on the new computer and on the XP system on the old P200, but am only running Explorer 6 on the 98SE system. Could this be the cause of the problem?

If anyone can help I would be very grateful.

Regards
Ian


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#1
September 30, 2010 at 03:42:58
You only configure ICS on the PC/Laptop with Internet Access, which I presume is PC1:

http://www.practicallynetworked.com...

http://www.practicallynetworked.com...


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#2
September 30, 2010 at 19:35:50
That is for XP, but what about 98SE? I found I could not get the browser to work without installing ICU on 98SE.

Last night I downloaded some software called NAT32. This allows me to browse the web from the 98SE through the network providing I do a clean boot of both computers (PC1 first, then PC3). Wait until they find one another on the LAN, then run the NAT32 configuration manager. In the NAT32 config options I add all the available adapters to "internet" and install them one by one, (making sure the authority checkbox is ticked in each case). Then go onto PC3 and start Internet Explorer. Hey presto, it is there!

But for some reason if I reboot PC3 while PC1 is still running I no longer have internet access, yet file sharing still works. According to what NAT32 is telling me, the gateway appears to be blocked on PC1. But even if I disable the firewall the internet still will not work on PC3. The only way is to do a clean boot up from both machines. I am not sure if this is saying something about my (faulty?) settings or if this is just the way it has to be?

I am sure I must just have a setting wrong somewhere. ICU does not appear to be set up fully. If anyone has got any ideas, I'd be very grateful for the help.


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#3
September 30, 2010 at 20:48:38
You're running WinXP on a P200 w/128MB RAM? WHY?????

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#4
October 1, 2010 at 04:00:18
Why not?

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#5
October 1, 2010 at 04:40:03
Min sys specs XP:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/...

ICS: If you read the links it will work if W98 has been configured correctly...


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#6
October 1, 2010 at 07:04:01
I have got it to work with a bit of fine tuning. I do not have those minimum requirements shown on that Microsoft page, but I am now getting 3Mb/Sec through a wireless broadband connection. So those minimum requirements must be a rough guide only. I've been told many times in the past that things will not work on a P200, only to find that they often can and do.

The reason for running XP. If you can install Win XP on older computers you have better functionality and security for going on the net. The big drawback is of course slow boot time. But I'm not expecting it to work like a new machine by any means. I have 4 port USB 2.0 which works well.

So this case can be marked solved.


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#7
October 1, 2010 at 09:44:30
Actually Puppy Linux is more secure than Windows and runs well on your system specs......................

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#8
October 1, 2010 at 14:30:30
"Why not?"

For one thing, you apparently already have a "modern" PC with XP on it, so why bother with XP on a P200 w/128MB? Just because it can be done doesn't mean it should be done.

"The big drawback is of course slow boot time"

You mean slow EVERYTHING. Hey, if you enjoy sitting around waiting for things to load, that's your business. X86's suggestion about Puppy makes much more sense. As he stated, it's much more secure & would definitely run well on that old hardware. Not to mention, it's much newer. XP is going on 10 yrs old. The latest version of Puppy (or it's offshoot, Quirky) were both released within the past few weeks.

http://distrowatch.com/table.php?di...

http://distrowatch.com/table.php?di...


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#9
October 1, 2010 at 20:00:00
Yeah it's almost as slow and unresponsive as this forum. :p

Actually I have timed it and the old PC boots up to WinXP about the same speed as my newer one. That's because I have so much crud installed on it. And if you want SLOW buy a modern laptop with Vista or Win7 on it. Now that is SLOW!!

I am not going to get into a futile debate about the reasons why anyone would want to keep an old PC running. People do up old vintage cars for similar reaons and I'm sure all the "rev heads" out there scoff at them for bothering to keep that old pile of junk on our modern roads. I also need my old computer for some aspects of my work. There are some things the old computers can do that the new ones no longer can.

I can see I posted on the wrong forum. There are other forums out there that still cater for 98 users and they have very understanding and helpful members, not smart alecs.

Thank you for the Linux tip, but I do not like Linux.


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#10
October 2, 2010 at 09:33:35
"I am not going to get into a futile debate about the reasons why anyone would want to keep an old PC running"

I have several old socket 7 computers with similar specs...233MMX w/128MB for instance...but I wouldn't run XP on any of them. This "debate" is not about keeping an old system running, it's about keeping it running productively. And I'm curious as to why you have your systems networked together via a crossover cable rather than using a router? Seems to me a router might cure your problems with internet connectivity. BTW, the analogy with vintage cars doesn't work, nice try though.

"There are other forums out there that still cater for 98 users and they have very understanding and helpful members, not smart alecs"

No one's being a smart alec....just pointing out the futility of running XP on a system that's clearly not capable of running it productively.

"I am now getting 3Mb/Sec through a wireless broadband connection. So those minimum requirements must be a rough guide only"

What does the bandwidth of your internet connection have to do with the minimum hardware requirements of the OS?

"Thank you for the Linux tip, but I do not like Linux."

That's because you haven't taken the time to learn it.


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