Fatal Exception during win98 installation

July 16, 2009 at 19:56:15
Specs: Windows 98, 1.60Ghz/1gb
I am attempting at installing Windows 98 SE on my Sandisk Flash Drive (8gb). The installation got to the point of installing drivers. And I got a Fatal Exception. I expected this too.

A fatal exception 06 has occurred at 00009322 The current application will be terminated.

I have restarted my laptop many times and it still gets this error. I have an Acer Aspire One.

I thought a way to fix this would be to edit a file to make the setup skip the driver detect, is this possible. If not is there another way to fix this. All help is appriciated.


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#1
July 16, 2009 at 22:15:08
You say you expected the fatal exception error. What led to you to expect it? If you have a source for that, did they suggest a fix?

You shouldn't try to install 98 with that much ram. Drop it to about 256. I can't say for sure that that's the problem since I don't know what affect installing on a flash drive may have but I know a gig of ram can be a problem.


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#2
July 17, 2009 at 07:43:11
Why are you using W98? XP on the Aspire is adequate if you strip the installation of the excess garbage. If you are doing it as an experiment W98 will require drivers for the USB devices. Did you install chipset drivers?

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#3
July 17, 2009 at 08:35:26
I fixed the ram issue by adding this code to system.ini

[386enh]
.....
MaxPhysPage=30000
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I expected the fatal exception problem though because I didnt think windows 98 would have a driver for my Sandisk Flash Drive. Maybe i could intigrate the driver into the installation? how would i go about that?


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#4
July 17, 2009 at 14:27:02
I'm not sure if there's a way to do that. You might try it manually. Extract the drivers to cd or floppy (if it'll fit and you have a floppy drive). Then after the first reboot as part of the installation choose to reboot from a 98 bootdisk or the 98 cd instead of the hard drive. You should end up at a dos prompt. Then copy the .inf file to the windows\inf folder and any .vxd and .dll files to the windows\system folder. Then reboot normally to the hard drive and let the installation continue.

I don't know that it'll work or even if lack of those drivers is causing the problem. If you need help with dos command for copying, post back the folders and subfolders created when extracting the drivers as the COPY command needs to have the path to the files in order to work.


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#5
July 17, 2009 at 15:27:12
Since the computer has neither floppy or cd, the boot from the flash drives must have all the drivers in place.

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#6
July 17, 2009 at 17:10:59
I guess I missed where he said it has no floppy or cdrom.

But if that's the case then after the first reboot he'd need to turn it off and put the flash drive in another PC and copy the files that way.


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#7
July 17, 2009 at 17:59:03
I copied "disk.inf" into "H:\WINDOWS\INF"
I also copied "disk.sys" to H:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS

Im not getting the same fatal exception this time. lol

Im getting this one.....

"A fatal exception 0E has occurred at 0028:FF02847B in VXD acpi(02) + 000013EB"

What does this mean? How do I fix this?


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#8
July 17, 2009 at 20:43:22
Your fix in #3 will not fix the issue of using more than 511MB or RAM. What you need to do is to physically reduce the level of RAM installed to less than 511MB and then make a change to the registry to reflect that number. After the registry addition you can add back the additional RAM, IF you are dual booting and can use the RAM elsewhere.

I can't post a link to the registry edit at the moment but if required I will find it.


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#9
July 17, 2009 at 23:01:18
Problems with ram can cause ACPI errors. I've seen it on older systems where the bios can't properly handle the ram, although the amount of ram didn't exceed the motherboard limits. Bad ram too of course can be a factor. Try temporarily reducing the ram as OtheHill suggests.

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#10
July 17, 2009 at 23:53:06
This is a tricky case. The computer is a netbook type laptop that requires a major disassembly to change RAM and must be reassembled to run. I would like to know the objective of installing W98.

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#11
July 18, 2009 at 05:17:32
The RAM limit for W98 is 512M. You can modify system.ini to make it run with a larger RAM (but not with the line you used).

1. Restore system.ini back to how it was.

2. Under the [vcache] heading put:

MaxFileCache=500000

In fact you should be able to take it up to 524288 (512M) but start with the lower figure to test it out.

You will still be able to use the whole RAM. It is only the "cache" that has been lowered and it's plenty for W98.

some other bloke...


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#12
July 19, 2009 at 13:54:57
Any news, or have you given up?

some other bloke...


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#13
July 19, 2009 at 18:55:26
I restored the System.ini back to its original form and input MaxFileCache=500000 under [vcache] and I got the same error about my ram.

"insufficient memory to initialize windows"

So I kept that and added the previous code:

[386enh]
.....
MaxPhysPage=30000

I have tried many things to fix the Fatal Exceptions during the driver installation in the setup. Nothing works. Does anyone have an idea of how to get past the "driver detect" during setup?


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#14
July 20, 2009 at 11:19:07
Just to say that I have now unearthed the original MS source for that OOM error fix in system.ini (etc):
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/253912

Worth reading carefully (including links) but at a glance it seems it has all been covered.

I'm not sure if I have properly understood your drivers issue. If it is drivers for the SanDisk Flash Drive then I "might" have a driver somewhere. Even then I'm not sure how you can put it in until you have loaded Windows.

If this is a modern machine and the message it is about "other drivers" then you might be stuck because W98 will not have suitable drivers built in.

I've never tried loading W98 from a Flash Drive so have zilch experience to go on.

some other bloke...


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#15
July 20, 2009 at 20:42:18
Derek, can you email me the driver if you can find it please?

and thanks for the other information too, i cant read it right now but ill look at it soon.


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#16
July 21, 2009 at 07:35:53
No promises but I think I might still be able to find it, if not I'll let you know.

IMPORTANT. Erase your email address ASAP (I've noted it). If you put it in open text on the internet the spammers engines find it and and you'll get junk email forever. Hope its not too late.

some other bloke...


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#17
July 21, 2009 at 13:04:33
I've emailed something which might do.

some other bloke...


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#18
July 21, 2009 at 16:11:05
I just tried Google. This might be a better bet:
http://www.sandisk.co.uk/Retail/Def...

some other bloke...


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#19
July 26, 2009 at 16:45:19
Did you get the flash disk driver sorted?

some other bloke...


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#20
August 2, 2009 at 10:16:12
I downloaded the http://www.sandisk.co.uk/Retail/Def... driver do i need to install it to get the neccesary files. What files am I looking for? Where do i put them?

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#21
August 2, 2009 at 12:00:52
That driver is an exe file so it should automatically install when you open it. It needs to be installed to Win98.

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#22
August 2, 2009 at 15:45:47
Othehill, it wont automatically install into the windows 98 os because i cant run it from windows 98. Im trying to "Install" windows 98 on my flash drive. Im using Windows XP to do all the proper editing.

I manually installed it and placed the driver (.sys, .ini) files into the folders on my flash drive. and it still didnt work. Was i suppost to put the drivers into the Windows 98 Installation? or the actuall windows directory?


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#23
August 2, 2009 at 16:52:09
After you have Wn98 working on the flash drive you then install the driver to Win98 after you have booted to it. The driver will automatically install to the proper folder.

I think you may be confused about what the Sandisk Win98 driver is for. It is required to access a Sandisk flash drive when in Win98.

You don't need that driver to install Win98 on the flash drive. Your problem with drivers is with the drivers for the hardware in the WinXP computer.

Win98 can't configure more than 511MB of RAM. May not be able to access any SATA drives. Of course, Win98 is unable to read NTFS partitions either. Lots of issues trying to run Win98 on modern hardware.

Win98 may not be able to configure many of the hardware items.

How are you trying to install Win98 on the flash drive?


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#24
August 2, 2009 at 18:46:21
I used the HP Format Tool and formatted the flash to FAT32 and made it a DOS Startup Disk, using "Win98boot" Then i put the installation into another flashdrive (Data Traveler 1gb, FAT32). I booted from the sandisk flash drive and started the installation. It installed fine until it got to the spot which it opens the "driver data base" (or something like that). and I get the blue screen of death. lol.

Im still listening if anyone has an idea to fix this. or if someone has a question?


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#25
August 2, 2009 at 18:56:46
When Win98 starts to install any drivers keep hitting escape to bypass the drivers. See if it will finish then.

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#26
August 4, 2009 at 12:32:17
I kept clicking escape and it didnt make a difference. it messes up when it says its installing any plug and play devices needed.

Is there a file that tells the setup what to do? maybe the part that tells it to install drivers in the installation can be erased. Unless there is another way to bypass this.


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#27
August 4, 2009 at 14:38:01
When installing 98 there's a switch /PA as in setup/pa that's described here:

http://www.windowsreinstall.com/art...

as "Setup uses only Safe Detection of hardware". Maybe that will work.


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#28
August 4, 2009 at 15:22:34
Are you using a USB keyboard?

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#29
August 7, 2009 at 12:25:18
:D:D:D:D I GOT IT WORKING!!! Thanks DAVEINCAPS for the idea but I had to do a little more than that. I wouldnt have thought of it if it werent for you.

I wrote a small blog on it!! lol
For more info go to the site below! :D
http://ieatlotzcomputerideas.blogsp...

With Regards, John Brooks


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#30
August 7, 2009 at 13:52:22
You're welcome. We're glad you got it going. I had pretty much figured it was a lost cause. Congratulations.

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#31
August 7, 2009 at 13:56:50
I don't know what will happen if and when you try booting to that flash drive on a different computer but it probably won't boot.

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