Broadband w/ Win98?

October 21, 2008 at 11:35:47
Specs: Win98 SE, 255 MB
I have a broadband cable connection and am trying to use it with a Win98 PC. So far it is not working.

I use my Ethernet cable with my laptop, so it's not that.

Is it possible to get my broadband cable to work with Win98?

I have a Win98 SE, 225 MB RAM.


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#1
October 21, 2008 at 18:16:44
It depends on why it's not working. There is no inherent reason you can't get broadband cable on Windows 98, I used Windows 98 for a Comcast cable Internet connection many years ago. The question is, how do you connect to your broadband cable? If your provider requires some kind of software to be installed on your computer in order to use their service and their software does not support Windows 98, then NO you can't connect to their service with Windows 98. If, however, all you are supposed to have to do is connect a computer to a cable modem with an Ethernet cable, then there's no reason the Windows 98 computer can't use the broadband cable. You need to post more information about the windows 98 computer your trying to get connected and what happens when you try to access the broadband cable. For example, do you know if the Windows 98 Ethernet is working? Does it have TCP/IP installed and enabled? When the Windows 98 computer is connected to the cable modem, does it get the IP information it needs to connect? People need information like that in order to be of any help.


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#2
October 21, 2008 at 18:53:57
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I used Windows 98 for a Comcast cable Internet connection many years ago. <<<

That's what I'm trying to do -- same company too.


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If your provider requires some kind of software to be installed on your computer in order to use their service and their software does not support Windows 98, then NO you can't connect to their service with Windows 98. If, however, all you are supposed to have to do is connect a computer to a cable modem with an Ethernet cable, then there's no reason the Windows 98 computer can't use the broadband cable.
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I connected my laptop w/o any software.

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do you know if the Windows 98 Ethernet is working? Does it have TCP/IP installed and enabled? When the Windows 98 computer is connected to the cable modem, does it get the IP information it needs to connect?
<<<<

I don't know what any of this stuff is.


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#3
October 21, 2008 at 19:54:20
1. Does your Windows 98 computer have a working Ethernet device that your plugging your Ethernet cable into?
Answer: Look in Device Manager. Look in Network Adapters. Is there an Ethernet adapter listed? If so, select that Ethernet adapter and then click Properties. Does it say, "This device is working properly"? Then, that means you have a working Ethernet device.
2. Does it have TCP/IP installed and enabled?
Answer: Look in the Control Panel. Open Network. Is there a line which looks something like this, "TCP/IP->(description)Ethernet Adapter"? If so, then you have TCP/IP installed.
3. Is the TCP/IP getting configured properly?
Answer: From the Start menu select Run..., type into the dialog box, "winipcfg" (no quotes). Is there a IP address, Subnet mask, and Default gateway listed in the box that pops up? If so, then that can be compared to the IP address, Subnet mask, and Default gateway that your laptop is getting.
NOTE: With Windows 98, you must restart the computer after you plug into the cable modem. Windows 98 only gets the information it needs while booting, it will not configure it's Ethernet while running.

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#4
October 22, 2008 at 07:36:13
If you are not using a router in the mix then you may need to simply power down the Comcast modem, connect your PC to it and power it back up and then power up the PC.

Comcast's modem will only see a single PC and has registered your laptop. Following the above it will register your PC instead.

If you want to connect both then get a router. Wired or Wireless.

Power down the modem, Connect the router to it, connect either computer to the router and power up the modem and then the router which will register it and the PC.

Use the router's configuration utility to set it to issue the two needed private IP addresses.

When you connect the second computer it will be issued an IP addresws and allow it internet access.

HTH
Bryan


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#5
October 22, 2008 at 15:29:00
Somebody mentioned the router, which I didn't mention I was using.

I simply connected the modem directly to the PC and I'm connected to Broadband now. :o )

When I'm able to use my laptop again I'll need to figure out how to use the router with both, but that's not an emergency -- yet.

Also, how do you make Firefox your default browser w/ Win98? I know a speed tweak for FF but you can't use it unless you can adjust the pipelining settings.


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#6
October 22, 2008 at 16:40:42
In Firefox go to Tools > Options > Advanced tab.

At the bottom there is a System Defaults area with a "Check Now" button.
If you hit this button it will offer to make FF your default browser, if it is not already.

If you have IE onboard as well, and do not wish this to attempt to become default then do this as well:

In IE go to Tools > Internet Options > Programs tab.
Down below under the heading "Default web browser" untick the option "Tell me if Internet Explorer is not the default browser".

some other bloke...


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#7
October 24, 2008 at 06:23:04
Get back behind that router.

A router acts as a hardware firewall. You should be able to configure Win98se to work with it.

You should upgrade to IE 6 with the latest patches. Get all that at the MS Update site.

In IE, go to Tools> internet options> connections. Tick Never dial a connection if you have a modem installed. Then go to LAN settings> automatically detect settings> OK.

In order to see other computers on your LAN you need to use the same workgroup name. Win98 defaults to WORKGROUP, while WinXP defaults to something else (exact name eludes me). You need to have all the same.

Also need to share something in order to be seen on the network. This is not necessary in order to use the internet though.


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#8
February 8, 2009 at 07:11:09
Pyrolytic
I want my WinMe to access the internet by ethernet cable from a broadband modem. I figure that if Win98 can do it, WinMe should do it better. After I removed the dial-up adapter in Control Panel's Network, the result of Start; Run; Command; winipcfg is 'Fatal Error' even though the network adapter for PCI Fast Ethernet shows as NON_problematical in Device Manager. Do you know how I can get around that ?

Basty


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#9
February 8, 2009 at 07:35:04
I don't believe FF3 supports Win98se. I tried FF2 back in the day and didn't like it at all. Perhaps things have changed.

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#10
February 8, 2009 at 08:01:12
>>>"I don't believe FF3 supports Win98se.<<<

Correct, at least not natively, anyway. There appears to be some hacks available, assuming you're willing to risk it...:

http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php...

>>>"I figure that if Win98 can do it, WinMe should do it better.<<<

Given the fact that WinME was (at least until Vista) M$'s most "red-headed stepchild", I wouldn't make that assumption.


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#11
February 8, 2009 at 08:46:44
OtheHill
I do not know what FF3 is, but in any case the ground has changed. After first removing all modems and network adapters in Device Manager and rebooting, winipcfg is now giving a result.
However, the PC 'hangs' when the modem connects.

T-R-A
Thanks for the 'hack'hint' - I'll see where it leads. I said that about WinMe probably being better than Win98 because I have found its USB 'tolerance' far superior to Win98SE's, and so extrapolated that to potentially other aspects. I am very aware of the terrible reputation that WinMe (undeservedly) has.

Basty


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#12
February 8, 2009 at 10:58:44
FF3 is FireFox version 3. FF2 sucked IMO.

Is the modem owned by the telco or cable company? Do you have Cable or DSL?

In my experience many of the routers require setup and possibly software. Are you connecting to the router using a network patch cable, or USB?

Connecting directly to the modem temporarily will eliminate the router from the equation but will leave you exposed during the period of time you are directly connected. If you try that then keep that time to a minimum.

The connection between the modem and the router may require a crossover type network cable. Hard to tell the difference by just looking but there are 8 wires inside the cable and they are wired differently at one end on a crossover cable.

Then there is an uplink port on the router which is normally used to connect to a switch for expanding the number of ports (users) available.

All of these items can impact on how and if the whole system works.


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#13
February 8, 2009 at 12:38:18
As an aside, Opera browser still supports W98.

some other bloke...


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#14
February 9, 2009 at 12:56:46
In order to see other computers on your LAN you need to use the same workgroup name. Win98 defaults to WORKGROUP, while WinXP defaults to something else (exact name eludes me). You need to have all the same.

Well well well, waddaya know... This one minor tweak solved my problem!!!

THANKS!!!


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#15
February 22, 2009 at 02:06:04
Opera is fantastic for Windows 98 (and all newer versions of Windows, LOL!). I've never gotten a virus in all the years I've used Opera...it's that much safer than IE *and* Firefox. :)

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