Solved Windows 8.1 sucks !

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April 5, 2014 at 05:41:28
Specs: Windows 8.1, Intel 6 Gb
Hi to all,

When I was still running Windows 8, I could use legacy programs wirhin a virtual machine Under Oracle VirtualBox using OS like Windows XP or the like..

Since I moved to Windows 8.1 (not my most sensible initiative !), I had to reinstall Oracle VirtualBox and now no 16 bit program can no longer be installed Inside, whatever the virtual machine OS used (Windows 2000, Vista, XP etc.).

This is really a grand improvement by Microsoft !

My naive question : is there a way to move back to Windows 8 ?

Thanks for your help,

Claude B


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April 6, 2014 at 07:42:29
Sounds like it was perhaps a problem with VirtualBox rather than Windows 8.1. It happens, particularly with programs that do low-level access, every time a new version of Windows is released. Some developers use undocumented features in a way that breaks with a newer version of the OS.


#1
April 5, 2014 at 06:17:21
"This is really a grand improvement by Microsoft !"

Improvement or not, no one forced you to get it. BTW, you posted in the Windows 7 forum, why is that?


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#2
April 5, 2014 at 06:19:46
See this thread on Tom's Forums: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answe...

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#3
April 5, 2014 at 09:33:11
16 bit program can no longer be installed Inside - the host should have little impact on the guest OS with regards to 16/32 bit apps.

I am running windows XP and 98 under virtualbox, and can run 16 bit apps fine. Although I have been running 8.1 (64-bit) since I build this PC, rather than upgrading 8 to 8.1
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What error message comes up?

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#4
April 5, 2014 at 15:53:31
I know little about this but just wondered if the response in this link might help you (ignore the download):
http://4sysops.com/forums/topic/upd...

Always pop back and let us know the outcome - thanks


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#5
April 5, 2014 at 16:18:03
Not sure why you would still want to run a program as old as a 16bit version, but here is an alternative: Get a decent slightly older Windows XP machine, clean it up by removing most programs and junk or reinstalling the OS to make it clean, set it's IP addressed as fixed for your network, install just those programs on it that you cannot run on a new 64bit system, and then remote into it from your desktop for just running those things that you have to and use the newer faster machine for everything else. If you do not have an XP capable machine laying around, you probably can purchase a good used one pretty cheaply and use that.

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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#6
April 5, 2014 at 22:00:04
Yeah, there's no law restricting people to only owning one computer. You wana run old software? Buy an old computer!

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#7
April 5, 2014 at 22:46:22
Hi to all,

Thanks for your various inputs. I understood that I could not revert to Windows 8 wthout re-installing the whole stuff, which is really not a seducing perspective !

In fact, I have got a backup PC on which I could run the 16 bit program, but it was nice with Windows 8 (not Windows 8.1 unfortunately) to run all programs on the same machine, using Oracle VirtualBox.

Many thanks any way for your interest in my question - Claude B


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#8
April 6, 2014 at 05:32:24
Think about remoting into it so you can access it directly from your desktop using only one monitor, keyboard, etc. We do that at work to access our older POS system for remaining customer pick ups (orders) and purchase history and plan on keeping customer history available on at least one machine for at least a year, longer if the old server and machines hold out.

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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#9
April 6, 2014 at 05:42:36
Hi Fingers,

Your suggestion looks appealing, but I know nothing about the "remoting" feature. Could you be so kind as to give me a link to something on the web to clarify this ?

Thanks in advance - Claude B


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#10
April 6, 2014 at 06:40:23
Hi to all,

I re-installed a new time the latest revision of Oracle VM VirtualBox and installed Windows XP within it.

I tried again to install a 16 bit program in the XP virtual machine and - divine surprise - it worked !

So please, do forget all my complaints about Windows 8.1. I still don't understand its whimsy bahavior, but since it works now, everything is OK.

I thank you all for the precious time you devoted on my query and hope to be sometime helpful to some of you.

All the best . Claude B


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#11
April 6, 2014 at 07:42:29
✔ Best Answer
Sounds like it was perhaps a problem with VirtualBox rather than Windows 8.1. It happens, particularly with programs that do low-level access, every time a new version of Windows is released. Some developers use undocumented features in a way that breaks with a newer version of the OS.

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#12
April 6, 2014 at 12:46:03
Glad to hear you are sorted. Not sure if you can choose a "Best Answer" very easily but if you do so it will mark this thread as closed.

Always pop back and let us know the outcome - thanks


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#13
April 7, 2014 at 14:10:30
Glad to hear that all is working for you.
I did not set up the remote desktops but here is some info if you are still interested:
https://www.google.com/search?q=win...
Basically, we just launch the remote desktop program on the newer machine and it logs into the older machine via its fixed IP address. You need a fixed IP address or else you will need to find out what the IP address is each time the older machine is restarted or logs into the network again. You first see what series of IP addresses your network assigns as an internal address (like 192.168.100.20) and assign a fixed one in the same series but a bit higher (like 192.168.100.125) to the older machine. Write down this address(s) an you enter it (them) into the remote program on the new machine. The you just sign in as you normally would, but you can minimize the remote window or reduce its size off in a corner and go on with your other work on the newer machine while it is running whatever you need it to. Just switch back as you need to or keep open side by side or overlapping windows of both machines.

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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