Thinking of getting a new computer but don't want Windows8

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June 13, 2015 at 10:21:49
Specs: Windows 7, Intel Core I5 3.3
I see where most new computers desktop and laptop have Windows 8 pre-installed. I have my own copies of Windows 7 and Office 10. Is it much of a problem to uninstall these programs and install my own copies. Just don't want to get caught up in Windows' new monthly or yearly pay program. Do I have a misunderstanding of which way Windows is taking us?

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#1
June 13, 2015 at 10:43:56
I don't think pay for updates are on the cards (yet) and anything of the sort is unlikely to come along with operating systems below Windows 10. However keep your eye on proceedings because a lot of things are still gelling.

The first thing you need to check out if you are thinking of installing Win 7 on hardware intended for Win 8, is if there are suitable Win 7 drivers available from your computer manufacturer.

Always pop back and let us know the outcome - thanks

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#2
June 13, 2015 at 11:15:47
I have my own copies of Windows 7 and Office 10.

Are these OEM INSTALLATION discs with genuine Product Keys? If so consider building your own rig rather than buy new PC preloaded with Windows. MicroCenter and certain Costco branches still sell Dell & HP computers preloaded with Windows 7 SP1.

i_Xp/Vista/W7User


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#3
June 13, 2015 at 11:16:53
Thanks Derek. As always reliable with answers. Take care.

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#4
June 13, 2015 at 14:51:11
And if all else fails - you might consider a dual boot: win-7/win-8?

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#5
June 13, 2015 at 18:25:06
When you get the new computer, immediately make a set of restore discs...then you can do whatever you want without worry. You can always reinstall Win8 back if Win7 doesn't work out; or you can experiment with Win8 before wiping it out. Maybe install Classic Shell so you can use the "normal" start menu?

And don't forget, no matter which OS you have, either should qualify for the free Win10 upgrade in about 6 weeks.


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#6
June 13, 2015 at 21:15:41
Yes these are copies I purchased with product keys. It is getting too expensive to put together a PC and they become obsolete after 3 years to me. In the past I liked to stay at least not more than one version behind the latest. But I cannot afford it any more so trying to get by for less bucks. I am still using Adobe Photoshop CS5 Version 12 and InDesign CS4 and they do fine for my needs. Why do you think Windows 10 is a free upgrade. I think they are going to start charging for updates, but could be wrong. Thanks for the replies.

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#7
June 14, 2015 at 01:26:37
Many manufacturers sell computers with no operating system installed. For example, here in the UK Novatech have a wide range of desktops and laptops that can be supplied "bare". These will save you money and provide you with better specifications than you get from the mainstream manufacturers.

As to the question of paid updates for Windows 10, the reason people believe that the update will be free is because Microsoft have explicitly stated that this is the case. The whole trend in the software industry is moving from paid for upgrades to free upgrades (Apple have gone this way for a couple of years now and there are a number of totally free operating systems available.) From a cost point of view Windows 10 makes a lot of sense; from a technical point of view it is superb, judging from the technical previews.


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#8
June 14, 2015 at 11:43:17
I called the maker of my MB, ASUS and the tech said they have not created drivers for Windows7, so I have to wait before updating my Computer.

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#9
June 14, 2015 at 13:21:20
..the tech said they have not created drivers for Windows 7

I doubt they ever will - They see no reason to do so because it cost a lot of money (engineering manpower) to create drivers for an operating system Microsoft no longer support (except for security updates for the next 4-5 years.

i_Xp/Vista/W7User


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#10
June 14, 2015 at 13:53:35
As an aside, the only real issue with Win 8.1 is that some folk wanted the Win 95 onwards start menu. What they didn't (presumably) realise is that there is a free third party download for that. You can even set Win 8.1 to avoid the new style start menu if you so wish.

Always pop back and let us know the outcome - thanks


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#11
June 15, 2015 at 14:07:07
I recently went to a computer store near Frys and the owner had me bring my system in. He said that I don't need a new computer but if I wanted to speed my up I could install a faster processor chip.He also suggested I upgrade my HD to SSD. He was amazed that I had 16 gigs of memory. I don't remember if it was DDR3 but at least it is DDR2. I ran System Information and could not determine if it was DDR3.. Is there a way of finding out short of removing the memory. I have 2 banks with 8 Gigs each. TIA guys.

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#12
June 15, 2015 at 14:18:32
Belarc Advisor will generate a detailed report, which I think includes specific RAM details.

Likewise a (safe to to run) scan by cricial.com will detect what's installed..


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#13
June 17, 2015 at 16:14:47
Thanks gentlemen for your valued help. Have any of you guys started using Windows 10?
Maybe a Beta Version?

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#14
June 17, 2015 at 16:17:49
That is the way to go I am sure. Thanks Riider. By the way how do you pronounce your Riider.

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#15
June 17, 2015 at 20:09:00
I run a preview version of Win10 on a VM.
Windows 10 is an improved version of win8.1
The start button Is back in some form and window functions are similar to Win7.
It promises a faster start-up. I have nothing installed on it so don't know if keeps the promise.

Microsoft is changing it's business model to a service company and move away from developing software as standalone packages sold for a one time (license) fee.
And that could mean services come with a fee per use, monthly, yearly, etc..

I will continue with Win7 on my main machine for now.
Have another PC for everyone to use that already is set for win10 upgrade. Will use that one to monitor how win10 works out.



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#16
June 18, 2015 at 11:42:38
Riider do you suggest making restore discs or a system image disc?

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#17
June 18, 2015 at 13:42:19
Cutting in as it were... No harm to make both? And even make two sets (each set stored in separate places) - incase one of them gets lost/damaged etc...?

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#18
June 18, 2015 at 14:54:10
Thanks Trvlr... I see you are still around.

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#19
June 18, 2015 at 15:00:18
I comes and I goes at times.. but for the immediate future I is around... Often check in and look-see, without posting a respnse (usually as others here have already provided useful "how to phyxe info" already.

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#20
June 19, 2015 at 23:23:37
It might be worthwhile to keep Windows 7 or 8 and just install windows 10 as a dual boot so if things don't work out you can uninstall 10...

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#21
June 20, 2015 at 05:44:43
I will probably switch over the computer in the Den which everyone uses from 7 to 10 and see how it goes and most likely switch over my wife's little laptop from 8.1 to 10 because it has always been a bit annoying to her. My main system I will probably wait a couple of months to see and decide. I am also interested hearing from others who have tried Windows 10 so far.

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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