Solved New on W8, what to keep with asus and howto customize?

Asus M11bb-us1120 windows 7 home premium...
February 12, 2014 at 14:26:04
Specs: Windows 8, AMD Quad-Core A8-5500 3.2GHz/ 6gb 1600MHZ
Just got today my asus presentio destop. Received absolutely no disk or owners manuals. there was only a little booklet that told me to install my mouse and such before to turn on!

Anyway im new to this W8 and I hate it, I was on Xp with my old computer....can I customize it to react like on Xp (get on dektop right off and see start button window and such? or Im stuck with these disappearing icons

Plus I divided the computer as we are 3 using it. and I saw right off that we each have TONS of software or dunno what on starting the users. What is bloatware(new term I learned today as I reserched this!) and how to import my software from XP computer to this computer?

Finally I did a recovery disk....but is there a way to get a copy of windoes 8....as I know in 8 years I reformatted my Xp twice so its necessarY... as I understand nothing on this computer windows 8 please be patient...You guys always help me so I know you can do it(even with me AH!)

Manufacturer: Asus
Model: M11bb-ca002s
OS: Windows 8 64 bits
CPU/Ram: AMD Quad-Core A8-5500 3.2GHz/ 6gb 1600MHZ
Video Card: Radeon HD 7560D Graphics
Sound Card: realtek

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#1
February 12, 2014 at 14:53:20
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So far, there isn't a way to bring back the start menu in windows 8. You can boot to desktop by clicking the taskbar, selecting properties, and clicking 'boot to desktop'.

To disable things from loading on startup open Task Manager, then go to the startup tab, then disable whatever you don't need.

There really isn't a way to just transfer programs, due to registry keys and such. If you have the installer, you could transfer that (usb, ethernet, flash drive, any of these will work) then run the installer on the new computer.

If you contact the manufacturer, they should send you a Windows 8 install disc.


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#2
February 12, 2014 at 16:04:38
i ssee properties but not boot to desktop (will it work even for 3 users?

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#3
February 12, 2014 at 16:08:29
also which asus programs they give us are bloatware, i know none of them

also this may sound stupid but we thought we had games loaded...we clicked on them and it bring us to xbox live and ask for identification? I guess its not free ?also i have 8.0 and was told to upgrade to 8.1? but dunno how to do it and if I should or not?

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#4
February 12, 2014 at 16:08:45
Are you using W8 or W8.1?

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#5
February 12, 2014 at 16:32:51
Oh yes, You can't boot to desktop with windows 8, only with 8.1. Could you give us the list of apps that are under the startup tab? Then we could tell you which you don't need.

It might be that you have to sign in to Xbox Live to access the games. If you don't have a live account, sign in like you would to your Microsoft account (or your email, if it is @hotmail.com, @outlook.com, or @live.com) then it should prompt you to 'upgrade to an Xbox account' this is totally free and won't change anything other than allow you to sign in to Xbox related products in addition to email etc.


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#6
February 12, 2014 at 16:43:46
ok so first im 8.0 dunno if I should upgrade to 8.1. second I installed nothing so far, just tried to see how this thing work.
Third these games are free? but I need to sign in with email account? correct (dont want kids to rack up a bill!)or they are free for a few hours or?

finally where is the start up tab, i cant find it arggggg

Manufacturer: Asus
Model: M11bb-ca002s
OS: Windows 8 64 bits
CPU/Ram: AMD Quad-Core A8-5500 3.2GHz/ 6gb 1600MHZ
Video Card: Radeon HD 7560D Graphics
Sound Card: realtek

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#8
February 12, 2014 at 16:48:20
If you want to confuse helpers, this is a good way to do so.

Edit this out of you posts please.

Manufacturer: Gateway
Model: 702GE
OS: Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
CPU/Ram: 3.2 GHz / 1013 MB
Video Card: Intel(R) 82915G/GV/910GL Express Chipset Family
Sound Card: Realtek High


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#9
February 12, 2014 at 16:50:04
The upgrade to 8.1 should be free, at least as far as I know. TBH, it just depends on the games. I doubt it would charge you, especially if you haven't entered a credit card or anything (how would it?). You could always contact either Asus or Microsoft and ask them about it. It is also possible it is a free trial or demo.

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#10
February 12, 2014 at 16:50:18
How to Go Straight to Desktop when Windows 8 Starts Up
http://www.wikihow.com/Go-Straight-...
How to Boot to the Desktop in Windows 8 & Windows 8.1
http://www.7tutorials.com/how-boot-...

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#11
February 12, 2014 at 16:52:06
You can't just 'edit it out', to disable this go to My Home > Settings then down to the section that says signature and delete it from there.

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#12
February 12, 2014 at 16:53:11
yes i did edit it but forgot I had to cahnge in posting (auto signature) sorry
so how to upgrade to 8.1 and should I do it before I install anything.
Again where is start up logo?

Manufacturer: Asus
Model: M11bb-ca002s
OS: Windows 8.0 64 bits
CPU/Ram: AMD Quad-Core A8-5500 3.2GHz/ 6gb 1600MHZ
Video Card: Radeon HD 7560D Graphics
Sound Card: realtek

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#13
February 12, 2014 at 17:12:58
"so how to upgrade to 8.1 and should I do it before I install anything"
Yes, will make it a lot easier to answer your questions, most people are using 8.1.

download windows 8.1 iso
http://is.gd/PhDHHu
How to Create or Download a Windows 8 and 8.1 ISO
http://www.eightforums.com/tutorial...

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#14
February 12, 2014 at 17:30:13
Click here for a tutorial on upgrading from Winodws 8 to 8.1.

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#15
February 12, 2014 at 17:31:31
ok ill dot hat but where is the product key code? i dont see it on box nor on computer

Manufacturer: Asus
Model: M11bb-ca002s
OS: Windows 8 64 bits
CPU/Ram: AMD Quad-Core A8-5500 3.2GHz/ 6gb 1600MHZ
Video Card: Radeon HD 7560D Graphics
Sound Card: realtek


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#16
February 12, 2014 at 17:34:31
Control Panel > System and Security > System

Should be listed as Product ID.


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#17
February 12, 2014 at 17:39:04
The one in System is encrypted, use SIW to reveal the real numbers.

SIW Portable
http://portableapps.com/apps/utilit...


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#18
February 12, 2014 at 17:51:23
ok the code in contraol panel doesnt work.
SIW doesnt work either on windwos8

Manufacturer: Asus
Model: M11bb-ca002s
OS: Windows 8 64 bits
CPU/Ram: AMD Quad-Core A8-5500 3.2GHz/ 6gb 1600MHZ
Video Card: Radeon HD 7560D Graphics
Sound Card: realtek


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#19
February 12, 2014 at 18:03:12
Forgot about that, I have multi operating systems & I'm using W7 at the moment.

This one I use for W8.

Free PC Audit
http://www.softpedia.com/get/System...
http://www.softpedia.com/progScreen...
http://www.misutilities.com/free-pc...


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#20
February 12, 2014 at 18:15:28
As far as I know the product key is hard coded into the BIOS.

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#21
February 12, 2014 at 18:57:04
I don't think so...

I know you can change the product code, like if you wanted to upgrade from Home Basic to Professional, for example, you could buy a new code and enter it without having to reinstall windows. That wouldn't make sense if it has hard coded.


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#22
February 12, 2014 at 19:37:05
"Received absolutely no disk or owners manuals"

The manual can be downloaded at the Asus website. Reinstallation of Windows (if necessary) is done by using the Recovery partition. See page 56 of the manual.

http://www.asus.com/Desktops/M11BB/

http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/De...


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#23
February 13, 2014 at 07:51:32
ok free pc worked and gave me code now ill try to update to 8.1, then no one told me how to show you whats in my tast manager and running (lots of things and I installed nothing, btw computer is sluggish on or with adobe reader (trying to see p.56 of manual for recovery partition info)

Manufacturer: Asus
Model: M11bb-ca002s
OS: Windows 8 64 bits
CPU/Ram: AMD Quad-Core A8-5500 3.2GHz/ 6gb 1600MHZ
Video Card: Radeon HD 7560D Graphics
Sound Card: realtek


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#24
February 13, 2014 at 07:59:51
I get an error message telling this code doesn't allow me to install a retail version of windows8? don't forget this is a asus that came with windows 8 but dunno wh yI get this message ( was trying to get iso for 8.1 like mentioned previously in responses

Manufacturer: Asus
Model: M11bb-ca002s
OS: Windows 8 64 bits
CPU/Ram: AMD Quad-Core A8-5500 3.2GHz/ 6gb 1600MHZ
Video Card: Radeon HD 7560D Graphics
Sound Card: realtek


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#25
February 13, 2014 at 08:02:01
Riider, p. 56 mentions for windows 7 im on 8.0 trying to upgrade to 8.1 and then to get rid with your help of all the slugginsh junk I got with asus (right now I use over 1.5mg of memory and nothing is suppose to be running.

Manufacturer: Asus
Model: M11bb-ca002s
OS: Windows 8 64 bits
CPU/Ram: AMD Quad-Core A8-5500 3.2GHz/ 6gb 1600MHZ
Video Card: Radeon HD 7560D Graphics
Sound Card: realtek


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#26
February 13, 2014 at 13:30:26
" (right now I use over 1.5mg of memory and nothing is suppose to be running"

Probably find that is normal.

I hope you have noticed, we are googling. We can only guide you in certain directions, up to you to find a way to fine tune the info.

windows 8 task manager screenshot
http://is.gd/9d3Yv9


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#27
February 13, 2014 at 13:51:28
To Upgrade to Windows 8.1 you use the new Start Menu (all the magic blocks) then go to the one marked Windows Store. It should be an option there, free, but on some computers I have found you might have to restart the computer once or twice before it shows. It will take a while to do this (maybe 40 minutes) so wait until it is done and don't panic if it looks like it has got stuck.

You don't need a product key or ISO if it is pre-installed Windows 8.

By the way it is not "essential" in this process to sign on to Microsoft if you don't care to. You click the sign in but look for the small print that says "use local account".

The factory recovery process on a pre-installed computer is to factory restore then update to 8.1 again as given. If you prefer to use a Windows 8 disk then it is best to start with a non branded computer.

I recommend you go to Windows 8.1 because in the course of time it is almost certain that only upgraded computers will continue to get MS support for security and so forth. Same applied to XP, you had to have SP3.

Finally, and don't take this the wrong way, try to run with Windows 8 where possible rather than hankering after XP methods. It is not so bad as some say and the desktop is only one mouse click (or touch of the screen) away - on 8.1 it is a start option.

Always pop back and let us know the outcome - thanks

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#28
February 13, 2014 at 15:03:33
I must agree with Derek in this respect, there is a ton of information on the net with regard to W8.1 and Google will help no end. A little bit of patience goes a long way, forget about "new installations" get the feel of the system before you start adding and subtracting bits and pieces. An old saying goes "slowly slowly catchee monkey" and it applies equally as well in this case.

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#29
February 13, 2014 at 17:00:01
Still upgrading to 8.1 was more then 2 hours and now it is restarting and i guess setting things up (almost another 30minutes I guess at least)

After that Ill be able to add a screen capture so you guy can hlep me remove the bloatware from asus.

AS for 8.1 I can and could get use to it but I sure would like to know where is the start button (on xp) as I keep fooling around to no avail.

Manufacturer: Asus
Model: M11bb-ca002s
OS: Windows 8 64 bits
CPU/Ram: AMD Quad-Core A8-5500 3.2GHz/ 6gb 1600MHZ
Video Card: Radeon HD 7560D Graphics
Sound Card: realtek


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#30
February 13, 2014 at 17:47:15
Short Answer: There isn't one. Although hopefully Microsoft will bring back the start menu in Windows 8.2.

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#31
February 13, 2014 at 17:50:31
The start button is bottom left of the screen if you are on the desktop (or just hit the Windows key). It takes you to the new Windows 8 Start Screen which is the one with all the blocks on it.
EDIT:
See also #33 below which tells you what to do straight from this screen. We've all overlapped a bit on this - same meat different gravy.

There is no menu quite like XP but if that's what you want see response #7. If you go that way hold off until you are happy that the upgrade has settled down and everything appears to be working (sometimes after an upgrade computers can click away for quite a while buttoning up loose ends). There is a rumour that the old style start menu might be coming back in an MS upgrade sometime because so many people want it. I've managed without and done my own thing.

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#32
February 13, 2014 at 17:52:12
" hlep me remove the bloatware from asus"

I use this on every comp I work on.

Run Wise Disk Cleaner ( Run the 1st three tabs, left to right. I use default settings, leave boxes that are unchecked, unchecked ) Reboot when finished.
http://www.softpedia.com/get/System...
http://www.softpedia.com/progScreen...
http://www.wisecleaner.com/download...
http://i.imgur.com/Jecnfvb.gif
http://i.imgur.com/0xHwdom.gif
http://i.imgur.com/JZLYOLf.gif
http://i.imgur.com/4kfaeGW.gif


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#33
February 13, 2014 at 17:55:01
The Start button in 8.1 is replaced with a small downward pointing arrow beneath the word "Start, click that and all the installed programmes will be revealed. If you are looking for a capture programme there is one already installed with Win 8 called "Snipping Tool" and it can be found after you click the down arrow.

Lots of hand hints here: http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tut...

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#34
February 13, 2014 at 21:57:02
As per my post #7 I used Classic Shell in W8, thought I should spend a bit more time using my 8.1 drive, so I installed it.

I have red arrowed what I changed, heaps of choices.
http://i.imgur.com/0y84fbm.gif
http://i.imgur.com/FYoELc5.gif
http://i.imgur.com/tDC9X5C.gif

I now either left or right click on Start.

More alternatives here.

How to Customize the Windows 8.1 Win+X Start Menu
http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-...
http://4sysops.com/archives/how-to-...
http://winaero.com/comment.php?comm...
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/8-ways...
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/0...
http://blogs.technet.com/b/askpfepl...
http://betanews.com/2013/12/11/dont...
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2054...
http://www.itpro.co.uk/desktop-soft...


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#35
February 14, 2014 at 05:56:59
"Riider, p. 56 mentions for windows 7 im on 8.0 trying to upgrade to 8.1"

You wanted to know how to do a recovery, p56 explains it. It doesn't matter if you have Win7 or Win8, those instructions will work. As for updating to Win8.1, you need to do that from the Windows Store as was explained. We have no idea what garbage-ware came bundled with your PC so to be able to help remove it, we will need a list of everything that was pre-installed.

"hopefully Microsoft will bring back the start menu in Windows 8.2"

There will not be an 8.2, however there will be a service pack (aka Update 1) for Win8.1 later this year. Microsoft is on the fast track to bring out Windows 9 (aka Threshold) because Win8 has been such a disaster for them. Rumor is Win9 will be available in early 2015; the beta will supposedly be released this fall. Win8 is already dead:

"Microsoft is said to be planning to abandon their Windows 8 brand soon. Further reports stated that the Windows 8 was not well received by both users and critics and this is the main reason why the company is allegedly working on its next major OS release, which will be the Windows 9."

http://societyandreligion.com/windo...

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2090...

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/other/...

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#36
February 14, 2014 at 10:58:40
I can see why MS might want to dump the Win 8 name but a hurried Win 9 could be just as bad. Nobody really knows what the future will bring right now, it is all chatter and only time will tell. The stories keep changing.

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#37
February 14, 2014 at 15:13:38
ok so basically I need to do as per post 7 I need classic shell? thanks.

As for bloatware from asus (before I start installing programs) Run Wise Disk Cleaner as per post 32?
this should help me remove asus stuff unnecessary?Then should I keep this software and run sometimes or its a one time thingy

BTW much thanks for the picture Johnw, it was very helpful and helped much B TW on your last picture you mentionned not to use disk defrag on sdd drive....How do I know If I have sdd drive(have no clue)

Manufacturer: Asus
Model: M11bb-ca002s
OS: Windows 8 64 bits
CPU/Ram: AMD Quad-Core A8-5500 3.2GHz/ 6gb 1600MHZ
Video Card: Radeon HD 7560D Graphics
Sound Card: realtek

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#38
February 14, 2014 at 15:22:53
Also this might sound stupid, but we have a 1tetra, but it is divide as 150 c drive and the rest d drive...
my other computer was all on c drive. so how do I install things? on d drive as default or software should still be on C drive even if little space?

Manufacturer: Asus
Model: M11bb-ca002s
OS: Windows 8 64 bits
CPU/Ram: AMD Quad-Core A8-5500 3.2GHz/ 6gb 1600MHZ
Video Card: Radeon HD 7560D Graphics
Sound Card: realtek


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#39
February 14, 2014 at 15:30:12
"C drive even if little space?"
No.

Lets do one thing at a time, install Wise on d & run. Then tell us how much space you have on c.


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#40
February 14, 2014 at 15:41:03
Yes, classic shell if you really feel you need it. It is not "essential" so try #33 first just to see how you get on.

How much you keep of Asus software depends on whether you consider it of value or not. Both the space it takes up and how much it uses resources come into the equation. In my opinion much of the pre-loaded software proves unnecessary but not all of it.

I would advise wherever possible to direct programs to install on the D drive, although you don't always get the choice. My reason for this view is that the C drive free space gradually erodes away with Windows Updates, system restore points and so forth (including Windows itself and Asus programs), so you could find eventually yourself running out. This has become on issue on my wife's Vista laptop. Others might not agree with me so wait for their opinions too.

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#41
February 14, 2014 at 17:13:03
As downloading, installing & running Wise is only a 15min job, maybe you are having problems.

Wise basically does what the MS tool does, but also can get rid of nasties that are lurking, which is why I use it on every comp I work on.

Here is the built in MS tool info.

An Important Disk Cleanup Job after Upgrading to Windows 8.1
http://www.techsupportalert.com/con...
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-au/...
https://www.udel.edu/it/help/best-p...
http://fixitwizkid.com/threads/how-...
http://helpdeskgeek.com/windows-8/h...
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-au/...


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#42
February 15, 2014 at 08:28:20
ok wise disk cleaner done, it removed a bunch of things and I was surprised as this is a brand new computer and installed only 1 game and no program so far!
I have on c 110 gb free and on d 760gb. I installed wise on d and the game also on D. I guess I intend to install games software and also office on d?

I have another problem which is why I respond late. internet keeps hanging off. I have an old netgearrp614 router BTW should I upgrade it? and somehow it keeps saying internet not working. any idea what is my problem for that?

Manufacturer: Asus
Model: M11bb-ca002s
OS: Windows 8 64 bits
CPU/Ram: AMD Quad-Core A8-5500 3.2GHz/ 6gb 1600MHZ
Video Card: Radeon HD 7560D Graphics
Sound Card: realtek


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#43
February 15, 2014 at 10:31:40
"internet keeps hanging off"
Best if we can be sure whether it is a connection problem or a browser problem?
What browser are you using, Internet Explorer? If you have an alternative browser see if that hangs up too. Similarly, if you are using an offline email package such as Windows Live Mail or Outlook (part of Word) then is that playing up too?

Modern routers are improved but some old ones still function fine. Where does it say "Internet not working"?. Sometimes just unplugging a router for a few minutes can help.

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#44
February 15, 2014 at 13:49:23
"How do I know If I have sdd drive(have no clue)"
Should be SSD ( Solid State Drive )
Derek, I'm back on my W7 drive, can you point nbabe in the right direction please, maybe System Tools.

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#45
February 15, 2014 at 13:51:39
nbabe, put TFC on C, run & tell me before & after space "C" drive has please.

RunTFC
http://www.geekstogo.com/forum/file...
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/dow...
http://oldtimer.geekstogo.com/TFC.exe
http://www.itxassociates.com/OT-Too...
Please double-click TFC.exe to run it. Note: If you are running on Vista/Windows 7/8, right-click on the file and choose Run As Administrator).
It will close all programs when run, so make sure you have saved all your work before you begin.
Click the Start button to begin the process. Depending on how often you clean temp files, execution time should be anywhere from a few seconds to a minute or two. Let it run uninterrupted to completion.
Once it's finished it should reboot your machine. If it does not, please manually reboot the machine yourself to ensure a complete clean.

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#46
February 15, 2014 at 14:11:32
Re #44
Never had a SSD so am not absolutely certain. Probably unlikely unless specified or shown as a feature in the purchasing spec.

I'd suggest using Control Windows key + X. From there first look in Disk Management. If it is not there go to Device Manager instead then select your hard drive. If all else fails put the drive number you find there in Google.

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#47
February 17, 2014 at 16:15:01
Derek, yes if I unplug it it will restart or rework but I have to do it very often...

Ctrl+x didn't do anything....
installing TFC after restart will let u know

Manufacturer: Asus
Model: M11bb-ca002s
OS: Windows 8 64 bits
CPU/Ram: AMD Quad-Core A8-5500 3.2GHz/ 6gb 1600MHZ
Video Card: Radeon HD 7560D Graphics
Sound Card: realtek

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#48
February 17, 2014 at 16:28:43
OK it gave me almost 1 gb free. BTW how often should I use this TFC would you say this is the euivelent of ATF-cleaner I have on old computer? if so,I normally ran ATF every few days should I do the same with TFC

TFC didnt reboot I did it.
new computer even though it says internet connected, internet not working had to again unplug for around 15 seconds for it to rework.

cant see drive under device manager? maybe im doing something wrong. still didnt install much nero wouldnt I have about 3 small sofware on and now I will I think I should do a back up cd (not sure the name anymore)

also right now I have avast free on this computer and malware byte (I run this 1 time a week). On old computer I had ATF cleaner which might be your equivalent of TFC, also had online armor for firewall, and I think iobit anti malware (has malware scan, boost internet, and other in) would you guys say which one I should reinstall here?

Also, some software don't want to reinstall (nero is maybe 7 years old maybe unsupported on W8) for example I have vip video converter (pais software) but I cant find where is the key or the location of the key in order to have access to this computer. Anyone knows this software and can tell me where is the key for subscription.?
Manufacturer: Asus
Model: M11bb-ca002s
OS: Windows 8 64 bits
CPU/Ram: AMD Quad-Core A8-5500 3.2GHz/ 6gb 1600MHZ
Video Card: Radeon HD 7560D Graphics
Sound Card: realtek

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#49
February 17, 2014 at 16:41:56
Forgot to mention I have all the time on advanced systemcare 7 on old computer...wonder which ones (including this one) I should resintal

Manufacturer: Asus
Model: M11bb-ca002s
OS: Windows 8 64 bits
CPU/Ram: AMD Quad-Core A8-5500 3.2GHz/ 6gb 1600MHZ
Video Card: Radeon HD 7560D Graphics
Sound Card: realtek


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#50
February 17, 2014 at 16:55:43
Oops. Re my #46

Should have said Windows key + X
Sorry about that - have amended.

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#52
February 18, 2014 at 05:39:16
Download Security Check by screen317 from one of the following links and save it to your Desktop.
http://screen317.spywareinfoforum.o...
http://screen317.changelog.fr/Secur...
Please restart the computer before running this security check..
* Double click SecurityCheck.exe. If you run Windows Vista or 7/8, right click and choose 'Run as Administrator'.
o If you are asked by Windows to run this program or not, please click 'Yes' or 'Run'.
o When you see a console window, press any key to continue scanning.
o Wait while it scans.
o If your firewall alerts you of Security Check, please press 'Allow' or similar.
* A Notepad document should open automatically after scan is completed. It will be called checkup.txt; Please Copy and Paste the contents into your reply.
Note: If a security program requests permission from dig.exe to access the Internet, allow it to do so.

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