Solved Youtube SLOW on an old machine - any improvement?

February 29, 2016 at 06:32:37
Specs: Win 7 SP1, P4 HT 3GHz, 1,5GBRAM, 120GB IDE HDD
Hi ladiez,

me again, just want to ask if there is ANY way to improve performance of youtube videos on an old old pc machine? Videos are chopped, sound as well, even at some 360p resolution, in fulscreen its worse.

Specs are: P4 HT 3GHz(socket 478), 1,5GB DDRAM, 120GB IDE HDD, Geforce 2 MX VGA, connected to 17" 1280x1024 LCD screen, Win7 SP1, 8Mbit connection

I know its outdated, but its used mostly for some browsing and office and thats enough for grandparents :-) - any chance to make youtube videos work better??

Thanks!

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February 29, 2016 at 23:11:55
You need a better video card, one that supports desktop composition (aka Aero Glass in Windows 7). Video performance in Win7 takes a pretty big hit when you use the Basic/Standard/Classic themes, and this can be very noticeable on an old P4. This is why newer versions of Windows (8.1 and 10) don't even allow you to disable desktop composition.

To enable desktop composition you need at least a DirectX 9c video card. A DX10 or 11 card supporting the Windows Display Driver Model 1.1 feature set would be even better, but those are hard to find for AGP. Go for at least a GeForce 6800GT. They're fairly cheap on eBay and have more than enough power to handle desktop composition at high resolutions. Avoid super cheap cards like the GeForce 6200. While those cards do support desktop composition, they're often too slow to handle it well.

Newer cards like the Radeon HD 4650 AGP support higher levels of graphics acceleration (namely WDDM 1.1 and full hardware video decoding), but as those cards were designed for PCI-E and use a bridge chip to communicate with AGP motherboards, they can sometimes be tricky to get working reliably.

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#1
February 29, 2016 at 09:34:54
Worth a try: make sure the network drivers for that PC are up to date (PC or motherboard makers website, whichever is appropriate).

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#2
February 29, 2016 at 10:19:01
I'm just wondering if it is really the PC or whether it is the phone line, router or your server limitations. Might be worth asking them as this is an area where they often come up trumps (not Donald LOL).

The PC isn't usually the limiting factor.

Always pop back and let us know the outcome - thanks


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#3
February 29, 2016 at 11:10:58
I'd be inclined to look at the quality of the incoming dsl service; what is the incoming signal. Run a speed test to see what your service is actually delivering...

Also ensure (if possible) that the modem/router is connected to the master socket of your phone line (if your dsl is coming in over copper - phone line).


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#4
February 29, 2016 at 13:37:31
Install & run CCleaner-Slim to clear out all the accumulated internet junk files. Also disable any unneeded startup apps to prevent them from loading & running in the background. Reboot after doing so.

http://www.piriform.com/docs/cclean...

https://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/b...

Which graphics drivers are installed? I checked the NVIDIA site & there are no Win7 drivers available for the GF2 MX. However, you can try forcing the XP legacy drivers to install. Download Forceware Release 90 (version 93.71), Once you have it, right click on it, select Properties, click the Compatibility tab, check the box next to "Run this in compatibility mode for", select Windows XP (SP3), & then click Apply. After doing that, right click on the file & select "Run as administrator" & hope for the best.

http://www.nvidia.com/Download/inde...

Also make sure Adobe Flash is up to date:

https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/


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February 29, 2016 at 23:11:55
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You need a better video card, one that supports desktop composition (aka Aero Glass in Windows 7). Video performance in Win7 takes a pretty big hit when you use the Basic/Standard/Classic themes, and this can be very noticeable on an old P4. This is why newer versions of Windows (8.1 and 10) don't even allow you to disable desktop composition.

To enable desktop composition you need at least a DirectX 9c video card. A DX10 or 11 card supporting the Windows Display Driver Model 1.1 feature set would be even better, but those are hard to find for AGP. Go for at least a GeForce 6800GT. They're fairly cheap on eBay and have more than enough power to handle desktop composition at high resolutions. Avoid super cheap cards like the GeForce 6200. While those cards do support desktop composition, they're often too slow to handle it well.

Newer cards like the Radeon HD 4650 AGP support higher levels of graphics acceleration (namely WDDM 1.1 and full hardware video decoding), but as those cards were designed for PCI-E and use a bridge chip to communicate with AGP motherboards, they can sometimes be tricky to get working reliably.

mATX LGA2011 | i7-4930k @ 4.3GHz | 32GB DDR3-2133 | GTX 970 | Rampage IV Gene
512GB/4TB/BDXL | Win 10 Pro

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#6
March 1, 2016 at 01:58:13
Outside chance but worth looking into, try experimenting with a different browser if you are using ie.

Personally I find opera very good on resources.

Some say YouTube works best on chrome, but it is my understanding is it can be a RAM hog if too many tabs are open.

If it's for the grandparents and you don't want to bog the PC down with more software you could always create a YouTube shortcut on the desktop with whichever browser you choose to use it with.


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