Solved WinME on new system for Win7 Upgrade. Missing drivers, VM?

September 10, 2016 at 19:21:00
Specs: Linux x86_64
Hi,
I have a Lenovo t530 and immediately started running Linux Mint on it. I ran into incompatibilities with the programs that I need. I have an upgrade disc for Win7 that I used on my previous ThinkPad, and I purchased a full version of ME thinking I could just use that as my base before going in with the upgrade.

I ran into the new hardware, no driver on legacy OS's issue (no OEMCD001) and all the forums point to installing it into a virtual machine. My question is, can I install WinME into a VM, and then upgrade from there to Win7 to run directly on my hard drive. What I'm trying to do is use Adobe CC, play Steam games (Skyrim) on my system with no middle man (Play on Linux) and just Put Linux on my old system (IBM t43p ThinkPad)

Thanks for being here,
Jt


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#1
September 10, 2016 at 20:12:31
The model number does not appear to identify how old the system is. Unless it is very old then ME will not install on it. If it is very old then Windows 7 will not install on it. I do not think that the Upgrade for Windows 7 would work on anything older than XP anyway. installing one in a virtual machine would only end up with the other in the virtual machine as well. The best option I can suggest is to purchase an OEM copy of Windows 7 (about $100 US for home and about $130 US for Pro), in the USA, see Newegg.com or similar to see pricing.

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#2
September 10, 2016 at 20:26:22
The machine is new, but what I was looking to do was get ME on there, with the limited drivers, just to be able to lay the 7 upgrade on top of it. I know....a full install of a modern OS would be best. I can't afford that now, I'm trying to find a solution with the tools that I have now. I'm a student living off of loans, just graduated from being an apprentice. I bought ME because it was the least-expensive OS I could grab, but I didn't learn about the incompatiblity until I tried to install. Thanks for the note.

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#3
September 10, 2016 at 21:20:45
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The example of the missing driver OEMCD001 is mscdex not loading in autoexec.bat which would indicated ME isn't going to recognize your likely SATA optical drive. So with no optical drive set up you wouldn't be able to upgrade with a disk.

I don't know about windows 7 upgrades but in older versions you could start with a wiped drive and boot from the upgrade disk. Then as part of the 'upgrade' process it would ask you to insert a disk from a previous OS to prove you were eligible for the upgrade. Once you did that it would go ahead and do a full install.

Even if the disk allows an upgrade that way I don't know that something as old as ME would qualify but I guess it wouldn't hurt to try.

Edit I guess it's not as easy as it used to be but a lot of tips on that come up if you google "windows 7" full install using an upgrade disk. Here's the first one:

http://winsupersite.com/article/win...

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#4
September 11, 2016 at 06:15:22
Yeah, I'm with DAVEINCAPS here. WinME is not eligible for direct upgrade to Win7. If your end goal is to get Win7 on your machine, install Win7 and follow the advice in his link.

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#5
September 11, 2016 at 06:32:01
1. WinME to Win7 is NOT a supported upgrade path so you can toss that idea.

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us...

2. It's very simple to do a clean install of Win7 using the upgrade disc. You simply install Win7 using the disc but do NOT enter the product key. Once the installation is complete (no need to install drivers, updates, or software), immediately install it again making sure it overwrites itself. It will see the 1st installation as the supported upgrade path. Enter the product key during the 2nd install.

3. The Lenovo ThinkPad T530 is a business laptop, not a gamer. If you bought it "new" like you said you did, it should have come with a modern version of Windows already installed. I think you're leaving something out of the story. Regardless, how well games will play on a business laptop will depend on the CPU, the graphics, & how much RAM is installed. It's likely your laptop has a Core i3 or i5 & uses the Intel HD graphics. It may even have an i7. Which graphics you have depends on the generation of the processor. That will determine which games will be playable (or not). You may be able to simply lower the gaming resolution & dial down the game settings to get acceptable frame rates.

http://www.intel.com/content/www/us...

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#6
September 12, 2016 at 20:16:39
Thanks! I'll go for the full install from the link. And, whoever asked, you're right...it's not "new" lol, it's new"er" 😂 I've had three computers, all ThinkPads, since 1999. So my "new" is in a time-warp lol. I'm running an i7, plenty of gaming specs, it's jusy POL gets in the way too much for me to push the boundaries on this one.
Thanks for all the help and detailed walkthroughs!

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#7
September 12, 2016 at 21:07:14
You're welcome. Let us know the results.

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#8
September 13, 2016 at 00:23:17
Will-do!~in the middle of packing for a move, so just gotta get the discs, stay tuned~should just be a day or two on that~😊👍

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#9
September 15, 2016 at 18:40:07
I tried installing Win7 from an upgrade disc, but before installing I'm told that the install can't happen because the HD isn't NTSC formatted.

I tried formatting my HD, but then get an error about unmounting the filesystem.

How should approach getting around this?

Side note, I also tried using my system recovery (xp from an IBM t43p laptop) discs, but got the blue fatality screen.

Thank you!


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#10
September 15, 2016 at 22:32:54
As part of the installation process you'll be able to delete the non-ntfs partition and create and format a new one. There's several tutorials on doing a clean install of windows 7. Here's one:

http://www.wikihow.com/Install-Wind...

I don't know if using an upgrade disk will change that part of the install but it should be there somewhere.

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#11
September 17, 2016 at 15:44:11
Thanks!
I get stuck at #12. The option links for formatting aren't available, they're just greyed out.

I tried researching what to do next, but it seemed like partitioning was involved and I wasn't sure if that was a good idea when ultimately I'm aiming at a clean install.

What do you think?


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#12
September 17, 2016 at 22:15:38
It's a two step process to set up a drive. First it has to be partitioned and then formatted. The windows 7 installation may do it in a single procedure since the drive needs to be partitioned and formatted to do the installation but they actually are two separate stages.

The previous installation of ME would be on a FAT32 partition which I guess isn't compatible with windows 7, otherwise you could just format it and then do the install. So yeah, you need to remove the existing partition. The drive may have more than one partition on it now. Another partition may be for recovery--put there when the original OS was installed--or for data or for utilities. You're probably safe to remove all the existing partitions. I just bring that up in case you know already there's something on the drive that needs to remain.

I'd think the tutorials for installing 7 with an upgrade disk would cover the repartitioning aspect of the install. I can't help much there as I don't have a system or upgrade disk to experiment with. If you're sure you can't do it with the upgrade disk there are third party utilities. Check the support page for the drive as they usually have utilities to set up their drives.


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#13
September 17, 2016 at 22:32:39
I wound up going to the drive (within Linux) then just choosing the format from the dropdown menu. It was almost too easy lol, I don't know if it erased my files or not; I didn't check, and there wasn't any processing/down-time. I was able to do the clean install of Win7Pro from there.
But...lol
Then the drivers for the network/ethernet adapter were missing. And that's where I am now. Looking for a (free) burning program to put on my previous machine (the IBM t43p) that had XP on it, now Win7Pro, but.....which is also incompatible with Windows Media Player. Then I fell asleep. Picking up where I left off with next.

Should be ok, next after the drivers is to put Linux Mint on the older/slower system. Will follow-up after some (more) progress. And big thanks for all of your help.

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#14
September 18, 2016 at 01:59:57
Any drivers you need should be on Lenovo's support page for that model--assuming that model has windows 7 support.

Here's a couple free burners:

http://www.geeksengine.com/software...

http://www.imgburn.com/


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#15
October 29, 2016 at 14:52:21
So, I wound up making a burned disc (sorry if I'm repeating myself) and getting my port working. But then other drivers I burned that seemed to be the ones that I needed just were wrong. I downloaded Lenovo Update, and that took care of everything. Thanks again guys,
jt

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#16
October 29, 2016 at 22:29:08
Thanks for posting back with the results. We're glad you found the drivers.

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