Solved Why was Windows 10 installed? Will this happen again?

May 29, 2016 at 22:22:16
Specs: Windows 7
For months I’ve been either checking “No” or just closing the pop-up ad offering free installation of Windows 10. This evening when I clicked to get computer out of Sleep mode, I was greeted with a screen that said, “Welcome to Windows 10, (my first name).” I took a flyer and clicked to the next screen. There was a licensing agreement – which I declined. Then I got minutes and minutes of a screen that said, “Restoring previous version of Windows.” I now have my usual Windows 7 opening screen with icons – and another message from Microsoft that says Windows 10 installation failed and offering to try it again.

I neither want nor need Windows 10. Other than disconnecting from the internet, is there a way to insure that this scenario won't be repeated?


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#1
May 30, 2016 at 04:56:14
Two ways to roll back from Win10.

I haven't done this myself, but I'm told the first way would be to not agree to the terms of service when you find yourself at the Windows has been upgraded notification.

Second way would be to follow these directions: http://www.thewindowsclub.com/rollb...

I've rolled back a few machines from Win10 for one reason or another, and normally the GWX notifications stop after the rollback.

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#2
May 30, 2016 at 06:02:26
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"I neither want nor need Windows 10"

Microsoft has become extremely insistent that users upgrade. Apparently they know what's best for us. I have no doubt your system is loaded with Win10 files & it's just waiting reinstall itself, with or without your permission. If you don't delete those files, Win10 will return.

Try downloading GWX Control Panel (standalone version):

http://blog.ultimateoutsider.com/20...


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#3
May 30, 2016 at 06:15:01
Thanks, Razor. I will try your second solution later today. I've already tried the first one -- declining the terms of service. This got me back to Windows 7 -- eventually. I think it took 15+ minutes, and I'm not eager to have to repeat this process.

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#4
May 30, 2016 at 06:46:21
If it rolled back, that should be it. GWX (the nagware) will continue to run, but it shouldn't act against you from here on out.

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#5
May 31, 2016 at 13:28:54
MS is forcing Win10 on unsuspecting people & it's only going to get worse as we close in on July 29th. Stopping the GWX nagware does not stop Win10 files from being planted on your computer & lying in wait.

http://www.cnet.com/news/microsoft-...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steve...

The only way that it will never be installed is if you use GWX Control Panel or Never10. Personally, I think GWX Control Panel is the better of the two.

http://theusbport.com/how-to-downlo...


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#6
May 31, 2016 at 13:52:36
Installing Win10 removes the Win10 installer from your PC.

I just checked one of the rolled back boxes, and rolling back from Win10 does indeed prevent GWX from downloading the Win10 installer (again).

I suspect rolling back sets the registry key that GWX CP and Never10 toggle.

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#7
May 31, 2016 at 15:32:22
I'm curious if you've ever used GWX CP? I thought I had things under control but then found that I had a folder with almost 5GB of Win10 files that were downloaded without my OK or knowledge.

before disabling/deleting

after disabling/deleting


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#8
May 31, 2016 at 16:27:05
Not really, because the machines I wanted to upgrade (but ultimately rolled back) had GWX on there doing its thing.

For boxes I didn't want to upgrade, I opted to keep GWX uninstalled. I mean I could have a program that runs and checks a registry key every 5(? or was it 15?) minutes, or I could, you know, not.

Some advice if you're going to remove KB3035583. Manually remove the $Windows.~BT directory first. That makes the patch uninstall take minutes, instead of hours. I've been kicking around the thought of making a batch file for the whole process, but it feels like wasted effort. Especially since you'd need to run it from an elevated command prompt. If I were to do it, though, it'd probably look like this for Win7:

net stop "Windows Update"
net stop msiserver
net stop TrustedInstaller
net stop BITS
taskkill /f /im gwx.exe
cd /d %systemDrive%\
takeown /f $Windows.~BT /a /r /d y
echo y| calcs $Windows.~BT /t /s:"D:(A;OICI;GA;;;BA)"
rd /s /q $Windows.~BT
wusa /uninstall /kb:3035583

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#9
May 31, 2016 at 16:52:40
Thanks, everyone. So far so good. GWX and programming are above my skill level, but your answers are probably very useful to others.

What a great website!


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#10
May 31, 2016 at 17:23:30
For what it's worth, I also used GWX CP to clear the Windows Update cache which cleared out a ton of files. I now have about 2 months of updates in my update history. KB3035583 is not one of them but apparently it likes to try to reinstall itself.

http://www.infoworld.com/article/30...

The paranoid conspiracy theorist in me is saying that there's a nefarious purpose behind the exceedingly hard push to get users to upgrade, therefore ....

https://cdn.meme.am/instances/63756...


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#11
June 6, 2016 at 05:49:55
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#12
June 6, 2016 at 20:41:29
From what I understand about it is that Windows 7 still has more users than all other operating systems combined and I do not think that Windows 8 users passed even Mac users so it was not considered successful. In order for Windows 10 to be considered successful they need to get more than say 40% or 50% of all computer users on it and getting as many Windows 7 and 8 users to convert as possible is the simplest way. Considering that most users really do not need more powerful machines at this point and Windows 7 users are in general happy with their current systems, it is a difficult task. This is why they offered the free upgrade for the first year (maybe to be extended) and why they are trying their hardest to get us to convert.

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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