Solved Vista to W7 change left Empty 63GB EISA Part

Dell Xps 630 desktop (intel core 2 quad...
June 15, 2011 at 16:01:56
Specs: Windows 7, Ultim. 64, Intel Core2 2.4G,Quad Core, 8GB ddr2 sdram at 800mhz -42Gb
What doI do about an empty EISA partion?
After tring to install Win 7 Ultamate 64 Bit ( which I bought on Ebay legitamite copy) on a Dell XPS 630i from late 2008, which was running fine on Vista 64 Bit, with no help from the manufacturer, following the Dell infromation available from their web site, they warned I would lose some of the options included from the factory, such as restoring the system by Dell's built in features, I found there is a common problem with you can not delete the empty partion which is not assigned a drive letter in the Disk Management snap-in and the event manager had a number of warnings including the system is unstable. What can I do other than pay Dell nearly five hundred dollars for a years worth of unlimited suport, I was looking at Microsofts Windows System Image program is that worth tring to uderstand as a way to either fix the partion or utilize it as a Restore backup of some sort or is there another simplier answer?

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June 16, 2011 at 04:59:29
I am not confident about purchasing operating systems and major programs on Ebay, the activation keys often turn out to not work or appear to work and then 30 days later you find out that you were in some trial mode and not really activated and the key does not work to activate it even though it appeared to work the first time.

If you hardware is compatible, fast enough, and you have enough memory, Windows 7 is much better than Vista and XP, but for older hardware, especially with less memory, XP has some advantages.

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.



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June 15, 2011 at 16:47:14
For 500.00 you can build or buy an new system (a new system will include a years worth of free support) so that should be out.
Did you complete a Windows 7 compatibility test? Did you download Windows 7 64bit drivers for your hardware? If these and all else is OK, then I would recommend backing up to another drive completely and using the install disk (Custom install) to delete all current partitions and recreate a new partition and doing a completely clean installation. If you plan on using multiple partitions, just create the one for installing Windows on during the installation and later add the other partitions with Disk Management.

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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#2
June 15, 2011 at 17:40:03
That eisa partition is your original Dell restore files.

If you want you can create a complete image with windows 7 to some external usb or networked drive. That file image can later be used with your dvd to restore it to the image state.

I think the eisa may still be OK. It may allow you to return to Vista OEM state and that may be needed for some apps later maybe if you want.

Dunno why you paid dell $500 for a warranty or support. While the OS may not be supported the rest should be under warranty.

Why on earth did you spring for the ultimate?

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#3
June 16, 2011 at 03:55:37
Fingers-thank you: I was hoping a custom install of 7 by booting the 64bit disk upon startup...however it retained the three virtual partions.Aparently from what I read that is locked by the manufacture in setup at the factory and I would need a code from them to change the information from the command line and reconfigure the partion, which would for me be preferable, less time consuming and I rarely delete anything, I had everthing I had deleted for over two years still in the recycelin bin and had no significant conflicts other than several updates which failed to install properly and required windows to restore the sytem from an earlier backuo, but that does not rely on the image stored in this 63Gig partion, it is some form of a complete backup copy. I am not entirely sure, maybe you know, but maybe clearing the tcp chip and or there is another chip which when removed and the computer restarted and then shut down and reinstalled will clear the memory, but I am not sure where the instruction to retain the drive partion is stored?

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#4
June 16, 2011 at 04:38:42
Jefro-Thaks:Absolutely, I have another desk top pc I am using while thinking aboout this, 7 is running on the Dell however I did nothing but install the 64 bit os as of yet then look at how it instlled. I have found you can find brand new vista professonial full (32&64Bit) and 7 Ultamate also full versions which allow either an upgrade or custom full install for well under one hundred dollars on Ebay...I could not help thinking the hardware I have easily supported 7, I had not changed OS since Dos 4 to 5 to 6 in the nineties and bought new desk tops for 95,98,2000 and still have these two an Emachine with XP multi media from late 2006 and the dell with orginally Vista home from 2008. I merely circumvented the point for brieviety but I installed 7 from the desk top using the compatability wizard from the MS web site first as the disk prompts you to try when installing, it continued to insist I had a private anti-virus program running through Mcafee which I had used for years but had removed all of it and could not find a single file after a thourough search and perhaps ill advisedly ran the custom or full or clean install from the desk top. 7 ran perfectly from my perspective but the event viewer reported three times starting from the inital instalation there was a coruption in the memory and to contact the manafacturer to upgrade the bias..I ran the Dell diagnostic utility several times and there was no error with either the bias or any of the hardware or how the system was configured. Eventually, also perhaps ill advised, I decided to try then to restore the original software from the disk provided when I purchased the computer...however the information was cryptic and apparently I have only the Vista OS deiver and an Utility and device driver Disk from Dell and not another third disk which is briefly refered to in some of the resorces as included with some not all of their systems...I was unsure and decided to just try and see. When I reinstalled the Vista I used the 7 desk top explorer it gatherred information and the said it would format the drive however showed the curent partion configuration and asked where I wanted it to install and chose the primary or C partion. That is when I believe the boot? or the now nameless 63Gig empty EISA partion it is saying is healthy was formated and lost whatever information was there..Etc. I do see there is a way to utilize the partion as you indicate...I am wondering how to and what program and whether I can use my Emachine seeing there are considerabe differences in what programs are compatabile with XP and especially my current multi media edition which is comperable to the home version and has limited features and I fear limited ability I think to merely include quite a few tools that were available in Vista or 7. Thanks for helping...any thoughts?

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#5
June 16, 2011 at 04:47:59
As stated that is most likely your recovery partition for Vista and most leave it alone without problem since they can always use it to get a clean start back to Vista and then upgrade again to a clean Windows 7 install from an upgrade disk. I do not believe that you should have any problem deleting this or any partition from the Windows 7 install or upgrade DVD as long as you choose Custom and the Format/Partition option. Just choose to delete all partitions and then create a new one out of the available unallocated space. Either choose all available space or just choose the size of the partition you want to create for the partition you will be installing Windows on and leave the rest for later allocation. I do not believe that your BIOS has or can have anything to block you from deleting it, but if it did, you would not be able to 'clear' this.

The other option would be to open your system and locate the brand on your hard drive and download the hard drive manufacturer's utility that you can burn to CD and boot to that and delete the partition in question. DO NOT delete the operating system's partition from here, especially is you plan to use an upgrade edition of the Windows 7 install Disk since it will no longer recognize your right to use it. Use the partition's size to make sure you are deleting the correct partition. When this is done, restart and switch to the install/upgrade disk and complete the job.

Your final option is to purchase a new larger hard drive, swap it out and install it on the new drive, but you will not be able to use an upgrade disk but a full edition or an OEM edition disk unless you clone your current Windows partition to the new drive first and then use the install/upgrade disk to complete.

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June 16, 2011 at 04:59:29
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I am not confident about purchasing operating systems and major programs on Ebay, the activation keys often turn out to not work or appear to work and then 30 days later you find out that you were in some trial mode and not really activated and the key does not work to activate it even though it appeared to work the first time.

If you hardware is compatible, fast enough, and you have enough memory, Windows 7 is much better than Vista and XP, but for older hardware, especially with less memory, XP has some advantages.

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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June 16, 2011 at 05:28:15
Fingers-Excellent-Again thank you:The version of Ultamate 7 I have is a full version, so that is not a problem, I would rather have only! 7 in the computer if you ask me I have a laptop given to me from my dad's office with 95 upgraded to 98 and the files on it always went over my head, some from 95 and others 98...etc, I wanted to avoid this so it was part of why I so quickly opted to attempt for the custom install. I ommited accidently in the other reply to jefro that when I reinstalled the vista and the drivers from the dell disk and upgrade web site the event viewer then said the system was unstable..I did not want to continue to use the dell at that point, even though there apeared to be no obvious problems...even after again reieterating the diagnostic test on all the hardeware and systems software especially at theat point the hardeware test for the internal hard drive and perfect every time.. I thought it would be easier on the rest of the computeres hardware to add another drive and confiure it eventually as the OS drive and use the other for convience only. You are saying I should have the option to format/partion when booting the 7 disk?

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#8
June 16, 2011 at 08:37:33
Fingers-Thank You:You are right the advanced disk option does allow for formating the drive although only on mine it will only chose to format the primary or c partion, it displays more information on the inital partion when you select to format it then says I can not reformat that partion because it is an oem partion "Installed By The Manafacturer"...so I have 7 installed with only the 7 driver and nothing more and I did this orignally from the desk top a custom install but did not format the c or primary partion a nd essentially it is the same now only last time it moved the old os to a file on the c root which latter I removed and discovered the problem I described first about having a corupted memory and needing to up grade the bios. I still am trying to find information about what can be done in this situation. On the MS site I found another group of people asking the exact same question, same manafacturer and in one case exact same computer and the response to them and me also when I inquired was did you run chkdsk? Then at the end was a comment about this forum being extremely frustrating from the expert who responded. I am not in hurry at this point, I may have wait awhile, I do know quite a few people who have incredible bad experiecnes trying to have this sort of thing done by someone locally at a cost even at the few big national chains that will work on your syytem.

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#9
June 16, 2011 at 19:02:07
See second paragraph in response #5 above, this will probably be the only way to delete this partition, OR the third paragraph that will bypass the problem entirely and only cost you $40.-$60. for a new hard drive (desktop, more if a laptop) Look at the 'Blue' or the 'Black' series here:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

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#10
June 17, 2011 at 06:33:42
fingers-Again thank you for your thoughts, hard to find help often! I did find a third party download for free to home users that will over-ride the factory lock...however it also showed me the oem partion is intact and does have what I belive the original directory for that partion. I still have a report under administration in the event viewer from the time I installed 7, saying the memory in the firmware across the last power transition was corupted, see the manaacturer about up-grading your bios. Also I am trying to understand whether the c or primary drive should also be the boot drive and the drive with the operating system, and although all the partions are healthy there the c partion is labeled healthy(system,boot,page file,active,crash dump,primary partion) the "crash dump" descriotion is new and I am finding it confusing. I have not verified this as of yet but previously in the perofrmance health report there was a seperate listing under disk calling the hard drive "a dirty bit drive", I was told this was possible a hardware faliure and did run the mafactuers diagnostic tool a number of times with it finding no errors and chkdsk a number of times with no errors or bad bites, and the error checking from win explorer under tools in the properties dialog box again no problems then ms fix center and another diagnostic program from the manafactorer I had to purchase continuelly and could not get any indication of ither a hardware problem or a problem with the software other than the orignal ones I described. I have decided to try and uderstand what the other paartion the oem is used for and how it works as of now and am anticapating it being hard to find the information. It is amusing and perplexing at best? Many thanks,

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#11
June 17, 2011 at 20:13:12
If you ever want to restore your machine to the same as it was when the factory shipped it (Dell/Vista) with only what they shipped it with (everything else wiped off) you press Control + F11 during boot up to access the recovery console and begin the recovery from the recovery partition. This is simply a compressed image of the hard drive as they installed it and the boot up utility to wipe and reimage the drive completely. Some of these recovery consoles can do some basic windows start up repair, but not all. If you ever do, it is very valuable, if you never do, then it is a waste of space. If you make a Windows 7 repair disk, a Windows 7 password recovery disk, and keep regular back ups, keep your Windows 7 installation Disk, and you are not interested in Vista any longer, then there may be no reason to keep it.

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#12
June 17, 2011 at 20:47:31
Fingers-Than You! To the point: I hope you have my own sense of hummor or at least an apreciation for the absurd and or meaningless, in this case an absolute waste of well intended effort, when I tell you this part goes to you in your reply 6, I continue to ask some of these questions at ms live, and after reinstalling the 7 software I went to look at the system info and saw it had not acativated over the internet yet automaticlly and tried manuel only to discover there was a problem syaing this key blocked, ok I submited that as a question to the ms live community forum last night and when I returned this evening their answer essentially confirmed:1) the three digit code in the key on mine is 068 and athat is among the group they are saying on another site devoted to piracy was sold to me illegal or at least under the false impression of it being anything other than a trial copy as you said good for thirty days of something as you had indicated couldd be the case! And 2) there is no certificate of authentication anywhere which should have occured to me at this point in time! So, am back to the Emachine and at odds with myself / or my judgement for the moment! Still will either buy the actual disk locally asap and merely do as you indicate with that or ( which I do not think is advisable) revert {again} the same way with the vista 64 bit home! I still want to now this answer about the nature of a oem partion....and found one tool that is helpful the sfc.exe from the command prompt which did not find any problem. Thanks for your patients and help otherwise!

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