USB Boot to different harddisk number...

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June 9, 2010 at 00:43:02
Specs: ANY (It'll be Win7 after USB boot)
Hey all,

just wondering if there is a way to boot a usb as harddisk 2 instead of harddisk 1...

or... if it is possible to save backup of win7 from dos to usb then put that backup on a dvd and restore it in dos...

I can do it all with a usb... but i'd prefer to save on usb's =P

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#1
June 9, 2010 at 04:34:08
First question is only if your BIOS boot options allow it.

Second question, why not just burn directly to DVD? Most imaging programs will allow that and will span multiple disks as needed. IMO optical media is the most dependable and cheapest media. Very easy and cheap to duplicate an image for even more security.

Third point. Modern imaging programs allow incremental and/or differential backups in addition to full.

Using multiple partitions can also increase efficiency because different data blocks can require more or less frequent backup intervals.

Look into something like Acronis True Image.

BTW, when using multiple partitions and restoring only the OS partition The result is that all programs will be accessible without the need to also restore or reinstall them.


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#2
June 9, 2010 at 13:07:32
Move order of drives, this would make assumptions on where the boot loader is too.

There are a ton of ways to make images. Dos would be my last choice since you'd need a ntfs driver and usb support. Might be that freedos has enough for that.

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#3
June 9, 2010 at 14:46:16
thanks guys... but I am using trueimagecmd.exe (dos version)
so I can use an autoexec.bat with parameters to automatically boot and restore my backups...

but, the backups have to be made using the same method...

ive tried to backup in dos with a dvd, but I always get write errors...

usb seems to be the only way to go =P

but, when ive backed up with usb and transfer my backups to dvd, it fails to find harddisk1 on the image because it was made as harddisk2 (because the usb took up disk1 when the backup was made)

and I cant restore to harddisk2 because it doesnt exist...


(hopefully that all made sense and I wasnt just rambling on =P)

...I figured if I could get my booted usb to be disk 2 and my normal disk1 to be, well, disk 1... then everything would work fine =D

thanks for your insanely fast replies tho... how would I move the 'order of drives'? and will it work with the situation I just mentioned?


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#4
June 9, 2010 at 15:11:56
That is why you should come into the 21st century and use a modern imaging program. Then you can send the files anywhere, including networked drives and you can restore to anywhere.

If I hear you correctly you are dedicating an entire external drive to each backup.

I don't know if you have any options with what you use but with a program like Acronis you can send an image to a folder on the hard drive and store multiple images on the same drive if there is room.

I hope you realize that external USB drives are less reliable than internal hard drives so you are more likely to lose an image.


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#5
June 9, 2010 at 19:07:12
That program is some version of Acronis.

As for hard disk one and two there is usually a way in bios to change the order of bootable devices. Most newer systems may allow you even on boot splash screen or with a f key choice and then menu. It depends on bios. Some call usb hard drives and others may have them as usb devices or such.
Look at bios for how the order shows up and see if you can move up one or the other with a plus key or other selection.

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#6
June 9, 2010 at 20:54:08
hey, thanks for all ur suggestions...

I created a DVD solution using ghost that auto recovers win7 (but it takes up to 30minutes!!)
usb takes about 5 minutes...

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My task was to have an automated universal restoration process for inexperienced users...
I wanted it on DVD because its cheaper to have a bunch of dvds than a bunch of usbs/harddrives...

thankyou again for all your ideas... ill definitly use this website when I have any other questions =D


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#7
June 9, 2010 at 21:01:35
by the way...
OtheHill, If I came to the 21st century then it wouldnt be automated... there would be lame "1-click-restores" that end up being 3 clicks and dont even work...

The usb drive was only needed to create & save the backup in dos using the trueimagecmd.exe so that I could later deploy with trueimagecmd.exe without any compatibility issues... (on a DVD of course...)

the only problem with that was:
because I made the backup from harddisk:2, when I was restoring it from the DVD to harddisk:1 it couldnt find harddisk:1 on the image... and harddisk:2 doesnt exist unless I boot from the usb...

conclusion: If I need the usb to be in the pc to be able to restore the harddisk:2 image to harddisk:2... might as well use the usb to restore the image...

Jefro, If I change the boot order then my usb wont boot... it will end up booting the main harddrive which will get into the os...

I needed to get to dos with the main harddisk as 1 and my usb as anything else while still being able to use my usb...


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#8
June 9, 2010 at 21:03:38
but... thanks anyway =D

Ghost did the job easy... =P
and it even has a nice blue progress bar to show where its up to =D


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