Solved Upgrade to Win 10

February 11, 2018 at 16:51:51
Specs: Windows 7 home, Intel Pent., cpu g630, 4.00 GB, 64 bit
Quite a while ago when I booted up, I received a notice that I could upgrade to Win 10 by clicking on something. I received this every day for a long time.

I know that when you change the op system, you lose everything if you don't save it somewhere.

Was just wondering if you could upgrade (from Win 7 to 10) with this special offer, without losing everything?


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February 12, 2018 at 08:15:09
Personally, I don't recommend the "upgrade" to Win10 for a number of reasons, especially if you're running Win7 without any issues. There are plenty of sites that detail why the upgrade should be avoided, here's one of them: 10 reasons to reject Microsoft's free Windows 10 upgrade

"The MS offer expired on July 29, 2016"

The "upgrade" is still available but the way to go about it has changed: Here's how you can still get a free Windows 10 upgrade

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#1
February 11, 2018 at 17:08:59
Regardless of what might be possible in terms of any upgrade and not lose data... “always” safeguard data first. Copy it to an external hard drive; check the copies are truly accessible as well. Anything seriously valuable to you (typically photos) make dvd copies too and check they are fully accessible too before any upgrade routines.

An external usb drive should be standard kit nowadays for duplicating (and thus safeguarding) data and updated regularly. Sadly so many don’t bother and lose personal files anon.

One can keep copies on the main drive too, but have the duplicates (updated regularly) on the usb drive as the lifeboat when the main system fails or whatever...

Usb drives can be found on Amazon, Egghead etc. for not too many pennies. Get one that is at least 500Gig. ideally go for a 1TB if pennies allow. Format it as ntfs.


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#2
February 11, 2018 at 17:20:56
"Was just wondering if you could upgrade (from Win 7 to 10) with this special offer"
G'day again Warren, once you have everything backed up & you are sure there are no glitches with W7, you can download W10 onto your desktop & try running from there.

In other words you can install W10 over the top of W7, I have used this method quite a few times, once I know W7 is 100% clean.

Whether you will get a Free copy, you will find out. Skip doing the Product key thing during the install, W10 should get the old W7 key automatically at the end of the install.

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#3
February 11, 2018 at 19:21:15
G'day to you again, JohnW and to trvlr

I have a external drive backing up most stuff. Just thinking about upgrading, think I might try it now that you guys have given me the go-ahead.

I backed up the whole drive quite awhile ago, but might remove that and do the whole thing again. Would be a good idea, no? Should I delete it and redo the whole thing or what.

and thanks again for the help


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#4
February 11, 2018 at 19:34:17
If installing over the top doesn't work Warren, you then do a clean install, that means Deleting all the partitions during the install.

I would try installing over the top first.


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#5
February 11, 2018 at 19:38:57
Got this from Cnet:
Following the trials and tribulations of Windows 8, Microsoft has been working hard to coax people to jump to Windows 10. The free upgrade offer for users of Windows 7 and 8.1 was a huge part of the company's strategy to push Windows 10. That freebie has since expired and people must now pay $119 for the Home edition or $199 for the Pro edition -- with the exception of assistive tech users.

Here's how to get the upgrade at no charge:

From a Windows 7 or 8.1 device, go to the webpage entitled "Windows 10 free upgrade for customers who use assistive technologies." Click on the Upgrade now button. Run the executable file to install the upgrade.

Microsoft then displays a series of screens that take you step by step through the setup process. Follow the screens until Windows 10 is comfortably nestled into your device.

At no point during the upgrade does Microsoft ask for proof that you actually use any of the assistive technologies. So the upgrade could be accessible to any Windows 7 or 8.1 user who still wants to get Windows 10 for free.

"As we shared earlier, we've extended the free upgrade offer for those who use assistive technology," a Microsoft spokeswoman told CNET. "That said, it is not intended to be a workaround for people who don't use assistive technology and who missed the deadline for the free offer."

So what do you think. If it doesn't work, then I would install just like doing a install of a brand new op system, right?


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#6
February 11, 2018 at 19:45:06
"So what do you think. If it doesn't work, then I would install just like doing a install of a brand new op system, right?"
Who knows!
Because you have left it so late to get W10, you are in the hands of MS & what their policy is at the moment you try.
So until you try........
Who knows!

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#7
February 11, 2018 at 19:48:02
Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men; the Shadow do.

OK will think about it.


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#8
February 11, 2018 at 21:21:56
My opinion (for what its worth) is that if the machine was more than 2 generations old at the time when Windows 10 came out it probably is better to stay with Windows 7 until you upgrade to a new machine. If the system was newer than that then you will probably have a good experience (as long as you do not expect it to be the same as Windows 7 was).
I further recommend that for all of those who have Windows 8 & 8.1 they should all upgrade to Windows 10 (it really is an upgrade from W8).
For most upgrading to a PCIe SSD then Windows 10 offers easier installation than Windows 7 (though I have done it on W7 and it works well for me).

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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#9
February 12, 2018 at 05:22:20
The MS offer expired on July 29, 2016. I'm surprised you missed it, they were pushing it hard enough for ages. You almost had to fight it off if you didn't want it. This upgrade did not remove any of your own stuff except programs that were incompatible with the new OS.

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#10
February 12, 2018 at 08:15:09
✔ Best Answer
Personally, I don't recommend the "upgrade" to Win10 for a number of reasons, especially if you're running Win7 without any issues. There are plenty of sites that detail why the upgrade should be avoided, here's one of them: 10 reasons to reject Microsoft's free Windows 10 upgrade

"The MS offer expired on July 29, 2016"

The "upgrade" is still available but the way to go about it has changed: Here's how you can still get a free Windows 10 upgrade

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#11
February 12, 2018 at 08:36:40
> 10 reasons to reject Microsoft's free Windows 10 upgrade

All I could get at that link were the first two introductory
sentences and a mass of links to other stuff.

-- Jeff, in Minneapolis


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#12
February 12, 2018 at 08:43:33
I was aware that for some time you could still work your way around upgrading. Surprised to see it still works - you live and learn.

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#13
February 12, 2018 at 08:50:08
Thanks for all the responses.

I think I will stay with 7 as it is running very well for me. I only thot I would try the 10 upgrade as I was getting bored.

Why open a can of worms if I'm not going fishing, sort of.


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#14
February 12, 2018 at 09:37:46
"All I could get at that link were the first two introductory
sentences"

It's a slideshow, try clicking on the arrow to the right of the 1st picture.


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#15
February 12, 2018 at 11:52:08
I did click on the right arrow, five or six times. It reloaded the
same page five or six times. I also clicked on the little square
of nine dots, and the text next to it that says "All slides". Zip.
Could it be because I'm using an Android tablet?

-- Jeff, in Minneapolis


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#16
February 12, 2018 at 12:00:45
Oh, wait! You said to click on "the arrow to the right of the 1st picture".
I clicked on the arrow, but there is no picture. Just the two sentences
of introductory text. And lots of ads.

-- Jeff, in Minneapolis


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#17
February 12, 2018 at 15:14:17
"Could it be because I'm using an Android tablet?"

The picture is the Microsoft Windows icon, you can either click on the picture or the arrow next to it. Or up above that & to the right, you can either click "All Slides" or the arrow next to "Slide 1 of 11".
Which browser are you using on your tablet? I just tried it on my phone using Puffin & it worked fine. The layout is a little different but that's to be expected between PC & phone.


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#18
February 15, 2018 at 03:44:07
There is no picture of the Microsoft Windows icon. Here is a link to
a screenshot of what I get with my Android tablet's default browser:

http://www.fileconvoy.com/dfl.php?i...

PCWorldslideshow.png (136.158 KB)
The file(s) will be available on the server for the next 10 days.

Sorry for the clumsy method of posting the screenshot.
Maybe you can suggest a better way for the future.

As you can see, there is no slideshow picture.

When I tried to view the page on a Windows computer with IE,
I couln't access the page at all. I don't have any idea why.

-- Jeff, in Minneapolis


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#19
February 15, 2018 at 06:37:20
On mine, using IE, the massive MS icon shows just below where it says "share" on your screen shot. In other words it is off screen just below what you posted.

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#20
February 15, 2018 at 10:04:46
In my screenshot you can see a gray line across the bottom of
the browser window, just below the "Share", "All Slides", and the
arrows. Do you see that gray line above or below the Windows
icon image?

When I scroll down I see advertisements on the left under the
heading "Deal Posts". No Windows icon not nowhere.

-- Jeff, in Minneapolis


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#21
February 15, 2018 at 14:54:35
"When I scroll down I see advertisements on the left under the
heading "Deal Posts". No Windows icon not nowhere"

http://www.fileconvoy.com/dfl.php?i...


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#22
February 15, 2018 at 16:22:34
Otay. The picture should push those ads over to the right.

I think I'll try Internet Explorer again, but I doubt I'll get
different results. Hmmm.... I also have the option to try
IE 5.5 on Windows 98 SE, with a dialup connection....

I know where the phone cord is stored....

-- Jeff, in Minneapolis


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#23
February 15, 2018 at 17:02:26
IE 5.5 on Windows 98 SE with dialup ... didn't work.

I'll try the Windows 7 computer later.

-- Jeff, in Minneapolis


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#24
February 15, 2018 at 17:08:33
Mine was using IE11 on Win 10.

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#25
February 15, 2018 at 21:43:51
My first SS ( screenshot ) was done with Pale Moon & W10, I get exactly the same result with these browsers.
Basilisk, Cliqz, IE11, Opera, SeaMonkey & Vivaldi.

This is the SS for Otter Browser.
https://i.imgur.com/iF7RTo0.gif


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#26
February 16, 2018 at 04:24:08
The Windows 7 computer I tried before and said I would try
again is Windows 7 Professional, with what appears to be IE 11.
It still says that it can't display the page, and suggests turning
on TLS 1.0, 1.1, or 1.2. It provided a link to the Internet Options
dialog, and I found that those protocols were already enabled.

So three different ways I can't view the slideshow.

-- Jeff, in Minneapolis


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#27
February 16, 2018 at 04:29:53
Or four ways. I just see a generic imgur image at John's link,
with a "Get App" button in the upper-right. No screenshot.

-- Jeff, in Minneapolis


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#28
February 16, 2018 at 04:29:59
firefox/IE/edge works fine with win10 installed, using :
https://www.pcworld.com/article/309...

i5-6600K[delid]@4.814GHz/4.613GHz cache@1.385v | 2x4GB Crucial-DDR4-2133@14-14-14-28 1T 2808MHz@1.37v
ASUS Z170K
Samsung 250GB SSD 850 EVO
MSI Armor RX 570 4GB@1380c/2087m BiosMod
VS450


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#29
February 16, 2018 at 04:45:34
As well as IE11, I get the same on Edge, Firefox, Cyberfox and Pale Moon.

Seems you have troubles Jeff.

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#30
February 16, 2018 at 05:31:04
Flash enabled or disabled??????
Java installed or not??????

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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#31
February 16, 2018 at 06:08:35
both installed & enabled

i5-6600K[delid]@4.814GHz/4.613GHz cache@1.385v | 2x4GB Crucial-DDR4-2133@14-14-14-28 1T 2808MHz@1.37v
ASUS Z170K
Samsung 250GB SSD 850 EVO
MSI Armor RX 570 4GB@1380c/2087m BiosMod
VS450


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#32
February 16, 2018 at 08:17:10
I do not have Java on either my Android tablet or my old
laptop with Windows 98 SE. It may be on the Windows 10
computer, but I kinda doubt it.

Flash is on the Android tablet, part of the default intallation.
I presume it is used in many or all YouTube videos and lots
of advertisements. YouTube doesn't always work for me,
though.

For similar reasons, I fully expect that Flash is on the quite
new Windows 7 Pro computer. I'm not going to bother to
check to see if Flash is on my old Windows 98 SE laptop.

In any case, I doubt that either Java or Flash are relevant in
the case of the two Windows computers, since their problem
was an inability to even find the page.

I'm virtually certain that all three computers have JavaScript
enabled, in case that is what you meant, rather than Java.

-- Jeff, in Minneapolis


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#33
February 16, 2018 at 11:25:04
YouTube no longer uses Flash, it uses HTML5, although it might still use it as an alternative. I have Flash disabled in Firefox and YouTube works fine. Flash is on the way out.

I have Java installed for offline purposes but it is disabled in all my browsers. I have no problems due to this.

If javascript is disabled many things stop working.

That big icon is simply a picture - a jpg. I've just saved it onto my desktop.

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#34
February 16, 2018 at 11:41:19
A few times a month, more or less, depending on where I've
been, I clear cookies and cache. At the same time I "force stop"
the YouTube app and clear not just its cache but also its data.
As soon as I go to a website that has advertising, YouTube is
running again.

-- Jeff, in Minneapolis


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#35
February 17, 2018 at 07:27:19
"IE 5.5 on Windows 98 SE with dialup"

Regardless of the internet connection speed, IE5.5 is obviously extremely outdated. Not that it would help in this situation but why wasn't it ever replaced with IE6? There are newer browsers that can be used on 98SE too, K-Meleon is one that comes to mind.

The Android version on your tablet is outdated as well. If I recall correctly, it has 4.4.x KitKat. I remember one of your previous posts regarding problems with the "default browser" & I suggested installing Puffin.

https://www.puffinbrowser.com/mobile/

"The Windows 7 computer I tried before and said I would try
again is Windows 7 Professional, with what appears to be IE 11.
It still says that it can't display the page"

Is Windows fully up to date? If not, it's probably running IE8.


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#36
February 17, 2018 at 08:42:09
Go to "Help > About Internet Explorer" to see what IE version you have. You shouldn't need to guess.

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#37
February 17, 2018 at 09:18:54
Either IE 5.5 was the newest version of IE that I could
install on the old laptop, or IE 6 had some serious problem
that made me go back to IE 5.5. That was more than nine
years ago.

Yes, I have Android 4.4.2. I looked at the info for Puffin
after you suggested it, and decided it is not for me.

To my surprise, the "About" menu entry for Internet Explorer
on the Windows 7 Professional computer was greyed out, so
I got the version number from the Properties dialog on the
executable. It said 11.0.somethingorother. So version 11.

That is a Dell computer that was purchased a few months
ago. I think it was new at the time of purchase, but I could
easily be wrong about that. I don't know how a new computer
would have been acquired from Dell with Windows 7 on it in
the last few months, but it seems likely that that is what the
users wanted. There are about half a dozen primary users of
the machine, and their average age must be upward of 80.
I haven't tried to find out if it is kept updated.

-- Jeff, in Minneapolis


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#38
February 17, 2018 at 12:04:33
... their average age must be upward of 80.
The consequences being?

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#39
February 17, 2018 at 12:31:03
... that they're no longer below 80... ummm

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#40
February 17, 2018 at 12:36:45
Yeah, I think you could be right LOL.

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#41
February 17, 2018 at 12:59:11
That they already learned how to use a computer, and
don't want to do it again.

-- Jeff, in Minneapolis


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#42
February 17, 2018 at 13:53:45
Aha, then "I must be one of the newer fellahs" (although quoting for the film High Society kinda kills it).

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#43
February 17, 2018 at 15:15:33
yeah... next you’ll be recalling Flash Gordon, The Red Circle, Gene Autry, and who know who else... Possbly Uncle Mac on the olde Light Programme too (never got into listening to hm - just not my style...)

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#44
February 17, 2018 at 18:06:22
But no idea why my Android browser doesn't show the PCWorld
slideshow and Internet Explorer can't even display the page?

-- Jeff, in Minneapolis

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#45
February 18, 2018 at 00:45:32
Jeff,
The PCworld page is encrypted with TLS 1.2. The Win98 IE only supports TLS 1.0
No problem browsing the slide show on my little android (version 5.1) tablet using the standard chrome browser....

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#46
February 18, 2018 at 03:30:48
Okaaaay.... I wasn't much surprised that my old Win 98 SE
laptop couldn't download the page, but the Win 7 computer
running IE 11, with TLS 1.2 enabled, ought to work. I think
both computers gave the same error message, that the
page could not be displayed.

-- Jeff, in Minneapolis


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