slow bootup/startup on fast Win7 PC

Asus P6td deluxe desktop motherboard - i...
August 12, 2010 at 11:23:49
Specs: Windows 7 Home Premium
My PC has an I7 920 processor, 12gb, ram 850gb (total) hd, Nvidia gxt275 graphics card, (home built),when it is running it is blazing fast, but, the startup time is horrable. I have stoped all programs from starting at boot time, defragged the drive, cleaned the registry, etc. still takes about ~8 min. to boot and settle. During that time, if you try to do anything, it all but locks up (slooooow). Please help!

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#1
August 12, 2010 at 11:37:47
What type of hard drive do you have? You could have a bottleneck issue.

DoesKnotCompute


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#2
August 12, 2010 at 11:45:37
Thanks for the quick response.
I have a 500gb & 300gb drives. Both are Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 SATA II ( I think that 7200.11 is correct).

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#3
August 12, 2010 at 11:50:13
well you may have to change some bios setting, like memory check, with 12 gig that will take some extra time, set it to fast boot, cut out all halts, make sure it is not stuck at checking your usb devices..
there are few other twaeks in the bios you can run, but best do 1 at a time, to see if you can find the bottleneck..
mine sticks at usb wifi and external drives now and then..but its pretty old, so i switch off the external drive and pull the usb wifi adapter, trial and error.

i hate computers!
but cant help myself....


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#4
August 12, 2010 at 11:59:24
Thanks, I'll check the bios when I get home. Yesterday I set the bios to the default settings and then change the HD settings from Auto to specifics so the HD discovery will not be a problem. I did notice that the dvd drive light comes on three different times and blinks for several seconds each time while booting. But the biggest slowdown seems to be after windows desktop comes up. During this time the icons are slow to show up and any programs (stopped now) that run at startup are extremely slow to start.

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#5
August 12, 2010 at 12:12:05
Make sure that you go through the services to make sure that any services that you aren't using / don't need are not starting up.

DoesKnotCompute


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#6
August 12, 2010 at 12:17:51
I thought about the services but I do not know what is needed or not needed. I looked at the "Black Viper" web site for help but it is still comfusing. Any suggestions on where to get a list of services that absolutly are not needed?

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#7
August 12, 2010 at 15:07:57
Did you install the motherboard chip set drivers?

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#8
August 12, 2010 at 15:20:50
Yes. I keep the drives up to date with ASO3.

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#9
August 12, 2010 at 17:11:46
What is AS03?

Do you mean you keep the DRIVERS up to date with whatever AS03 is?

The chip set drivers come from the motherboard manufacturer or the chip set maker.


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#10
August 12, 2010 at 17:23:43
Aso3 is advanced system optimizer.
It checks the manufacturers for the latest drivers.

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#11
August 12, 2010 at 17:51:54
Did some Googling on ASO3 and I don't see where it updates drivers. I do see lots of complaints about the registry module killing systems.

I suspect this program may be scanning your computer each time you boot and it may also be removing necessary registry entries. I suggest you disable it and see what happens.

In the mean time download the motherboard chip set drivers from the motherboard maker, or Intel and install them.


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#12
August 12, 2010 at 18:02:40
I will get the latest drivers from Asus.
Aso does check and update drivers bit it only runs when I run it. It will not start automatically.

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#13
August 12, 2010 at 19:42:55
I think disabling ASO3 may be more productive. Got to thinking about the chip set drivers. Intel drivers are usually the first ones to get integrated into a new OS. You said your PC runs fast once it finally fully boots. Something is hanging it at start up or something is running before Windows fully starts.

Go through your process list to see what might be causing that. Also check Device Manager while in Safe Made to see if you have multiple listings of the same hardware devices. Or if some hardware is not working properly.

Do you have a motherboard logo showing when booting? If so, enter the BIOS screens and disable all logos to see what is happening on the screen. Select fast boot in the BIOS too.


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#14
August 12, 2010 at 23:12:54
ok so it seems that your bios is ok, as it slows down only once the windows logo pops up.

make sure there are no cd/dvds in any of the drives, or usb memory sticks in the ports. remove all excess peripherals, so that your system only have a mouse and key board attached, is it then faster?

this way you can stop a lot of guess work. and work out if it is a peripheral that is causing the issue. if not

open msconfig,
type msconfig in the /search/run box
click boot/advanced set # of processors and memory to your config/ok reboot, is it faster?
if not
open msconfig again, go to startup and uncheck all programs except those whose manufacturer is microsoft.
ie only microsoft are checked to startup.
does this speed your start up?

results of this, you will get a pop up saying services have been reset, check it and dont reboot,
some aspects of you system may have issues like sound, but you can check the sound program in startup once you have started up again,
most of the things in startup are just programs and updaters that slow down your machine. you can always go back and check anything that you think maybe be required, do them one by one, till you find which if any is causing the long startup.
get back to us once you have completed thses tasks ;-)

i hate computers!
but cant help myself....


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#15
August 13, 2010 at 06:41:42
Othehill,
ASO3 is not running (?), however, I will uninstall it tonight just in case. I did find that the keyboard (wireless) was listed twice and I uninstalled one instance. Fast boot is selected in the bios.

Princeorum,
I did click boot/advanced set # of processors and memory to your config/ok reboot. This did not seem to have a noticeable effect on speed. In msconfig, I have already unchecked all startup items. This did help a fair amount. I did not see any items in startup that where Microsoft. Should I turn of all services except for Microsoft services?

BTW: Thank you, everyone, for all of the suggestions.
I have attempted or am attempting all of them. It's great to know that people care and are willing to help.
At work, I use an IBM ThinkCentre with 2gb ram and an 80gb HD.
the processor is a single core 2.8. This computer boots in less that one minute and runs programs with virtually no delay's...
I don't get it. I have a monster of a machine, relatively speaking, and the boot time is embracing. The first run after boot of many programs, ie. Outlook, is painfully slow. after the first run, they fly.


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#16
August 13, 2010 at 07:37:34
download cpu-z see if your cpu is running at full power or if it in some way throttled back all the time..i have to admit it all sounds wrong, but i think you have established that it is not a bios issue, maybe you could switch off indexing, background updates etc..or a reinstall of win7, on a second partition, do a clean install onto a new partition, if it works fine you can swap your files and accounts with easy transfer.

the idea of the second installation is to verify that is no issue with the actual windows installation, then you can install programs one at a time to see which if any are causing your slow boot/reaction times, i would be unhappy with this system it was mine.
did you install from dvd? its no problem to reinstall it on the same machine on a second partition,
it may have been the optimsing program has caused some bad reg entries, was it always slow like this? if it was ok in the beginning, you may be able to do a reapir from the dvd.

have you checked the running process to see what is happening when you open a new program, this may help see what is causing the slow opening of progs.
other than that take out all but 1 mem stick, see if you still have the same issue, then try each one, memory issues are a real bummer to pinpoint and cause some really odd things to happen to machines.
i hate computers!
but cant help myself....


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#17
August 13, 2010 at 08:05:57
I will try cpu-z tonight. I will also switch off indexing, background updates etc. My system is backed up. I did think about wiping the drive and starting over... I do have a second HD I could install w7 to and switch boot drives. I like the second installation idea... &, no, I am not happy with the system right now! Frustrated is putting it mildly. I have not checked the running process to see what is happening when you open a new program. That’s now on the list of things to try. I really hope this can be resolved without resorting to mem testing. Been there done that. But, I will do whatever it takes. With all of the help I am receiving, there is hope! Thanks.

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#18
August 13, 2010 at 08:26:29
The common reason for a boot time that long would be that either a scan is being performed or updates are being applied. Less common is when Windows can't figure out how to configure the hardware.

On older motherboards There were options on weather the BIOS or the OS should configure the hardware. Look and see if there are any options like that in your BIOS. One I recall that sometimes had to be used was reset system configuration. This reallocated resources (IRQs). That was when the number of IRQs available was less than modern systems.

ACPI settings in the BIOS can also have an affect on how this works. Look at the link below for more on ACPI.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanc...


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#19
August 13, 2010 at 08:36:57
I did see an option that lets the BIOS or the OS configure the hardware. It is set to BIOS.
Thanks for the link. I'll check it out.

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#20
August 13, 2010 at 09:37:33
I think that if the OS was installed when the option was selected to have the BIOS control resources you MAY need to re-install with the option changed in order to get the full effect. I could be wrong about that. At any rate the BIOS setting can affect how Windows treats the power settings and different modes.

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#21
August 16, 2010 at 07:07:12
Thanks to all of you for the excellent help!
I changed form BIOS configuring all of the hardware to the OS configuring all of the hardware.
I removed all non Microsoft startups and all non essential services based on black vipers web site. I found that a big problem was Genie-Backup software. It was taking 70.1 sec. to load. I ran a boot analysis program called Winbootinfo (great program). It gives load times on everything at boot up.
My boot time is now 45 seconds. I'm guessing this is pretty good.
If it should be faster, please let me know so that I can investigate further.

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#22
August 16, 2010 at 08:24:48
I had an issue a few months back where my Windows 7 boot up and shut down times went from the usual 5-10 minutes and shot all the way up to about 30-45 minutes. To this day I am not exactly sure what the cause was, but there were no signs that pointed to any sort of hardware failure.

The resolution that worked for me: disable Internet Explorer and reinstall it.

Odd, yes... but it worked. It's easy and worth a shot.


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#23
August 16, 2010 at 08:45:27
45 seconds seems fine for any system, glad you found the culprit.
as for backup the iwn 7 backup and image backup is great simple and very effective

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#24
August 16, 2010 at 09:00:09
Thanks again for the help!
I like Genie-Backup because it checks to see if any files have been changed/added every 30 min. and backups immediately.
The Genie-Backup service is still starting at boot up but does not cause a problem (strange...), however, I will look into iwn 7 backup and image backup. Might be making a change. Thanks for the suggestion.

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#25
August 16, 2010 at 11:37:36
SpecialK

Something wrong with your system. Even 5 to 10 minutes is too long. 30 to 45 minutes is ridiculous.


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