Install Ide drive via ide in windows 7

Hewlett-packard / PAVILION
November 8, 2014 at 15:43:12
Specs: Windows 7, Intel Pentium D 925
I have a new computer with Windows 7 and need access to my IDE hard drive which will be attached through a USB hub--it can be either USB 2 or 3.
What do I need to do to make that happen?

Thanks a bunch, Uncle Dewey

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#1
November 8, 2014 at 16:02:27
Hi Uncle Dewey. Hope your day is treating you well.

Have a look at an external enclosure to house the drive.

Here is a link or two from eBay.com (U.S.):

3.5" external enclosure. Suits the larger desktop size IDE HDD.
http://m.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=3...

2.5" external enclosure. Suits the smaller laptop size IDE HDD.
http://m.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=2...

Place the drive in one of these and connect to your USB hub.

Take note though that for the larger 3.5" drives that you will need a spare power point to power it.

Edit: Use a USB 2 external enclosure for your IDE drive. There will be no benefit in placing it in a USB 3 enclosure. Also compatibility conflicts may arise if you try to place an IDE drive in a USB 3 enclosure.

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#2
November 8, 2014 at 16:12:37
Hi, I have an enclosure, but when I plug it into a USB hub Windows 7 seven does not recognize the drive, So I'm thinking I may need a special driver, but my search for one has not been successful.

Thanks for your interest. Uncle Dewey


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#3
November 8, 2014 at 16:12:55
If you have drive taken out of whichever computer it was originally installed in, then either obtain a suitable case for it - which will allow a usb connection to your current computer; or use a usb- eide cable adapter set.

Cases come in two sizes - one for the older/larger (physically) drives as usually found in desktop/tower systems; the other for smaller drives as usually found in laptops.

Some cases will allow for either an eide or sata drive to be used (various ways they allow this choice); and some are eide only, or sata only.

Many cases draw power from the host computer; some provide an external power unit. Many of those (but not all) that draw power from the host computer can be powered via an external mains adapter.

Benefit if a case is that the drive protected and can be moved about etc. A cable set is more used for an occasional/one off event as it were; and the drive is not protected.cable set usually include a mains power adapter too; they aren't usually powered from the host computer.

And there are docks too; all usually mains powered. Some allow both sata and eidi, some one or other only. Many are nt happy compatible with Western Digital drives; not entirely clear in my mind why that is though

I would be inclined to look for a case - with external power, and also consider one that has a built-in cooling fan. Some drive cases have not so good natural air flow/cooling... Which can be a problem A built-in fan resolves that.

If you are intending to travel with the drive then a smaller case (no fan) and that allows either host power or an external power adapter would be viable (with an awareness of cooling issues - don't allow the case to be covered/buried under "stuff" when in use. There are smaller cases for laptop eide drives that don't run hot; and are host powered only. And as long as the drive capacity isn't humungous... They will serve well, and draw too much power from host (an important consideration if using with a laptop in battery mode?).

If you need specific model recommendations post back and include make of drive, capacity and physical size 2.5 or 3.5 for clarity?

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November 8, 2014 at 16:18:01

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#5
November 8, 2014 at 16:25:16
Hi have you set the jumpers on the drive to slave?

The link below will give you an idea of what I mean if you are unsure:

http://cdn.makeuseof.com/wp-content...

The drive will need to be removed from the enclosure to inspect.


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#6
November 8, 2014 at 16:29:27
Also have you tried plugging the external drive directly into the computer not using the USB hub?

What is the outcome when you plug it straight into the PC?


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#7
November 8, 2014 at 16:42:05
I'm sorry as I wasn't specific enough. I have case with adapters for a SATA or EID drive. Once the drive was installed the case had a power cable and a cable to plug into a USB slot, but Windows 7 does not have a driver for the drive.

I really appreciate your interest. Thanks a mil, Uncle Dewey


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#8
November 8, 2014 at 16:48:08
The links above ought to get you going. The drive does not need to be set as slave. Leave it as a stand alone Master.

Incidentally i can't recall ever bothering with drive jumper settings for that matter. Merely transferred a drive to its usb case and the rest was bog standard (as in above links).

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#9
November 8, 2014 at 18:53:59
Please ignore this #9.

A bit of confusion about a new post raised, which turned out to be a complete copy of this one so far.

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#10
November 8, 2014 at 19:46:40
I'm on the run with a spouse in rehab--will get back to you as soon as I can.

Tx, Uncle Dewey


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#11
November 9, 2014 at 11:05:23
The drive was previously the second hard drive installed in the old computer. I don't know for sure, but suspect it is set for slave--I wouldn't know which setting is which anymore. Windows 7 is now telling me they have a driver, but I am getting a Windows code 43 error. The instructions for correcting the error does not work. Interesting is that last night the drive was available and I could copy info from it, but not now.

Uncle Dewey

Any advice would be great.


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#12
November 9, 2014 at 12:00:23
See this for Master and Slave settings. Main disk is set as master if it contains and boots to the operating system, others are set to slave:
http://www.dummies.com/how-to/conte...

Always pop back and let us know the outcome - thanks


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#13
November 9, 2014 at 12:08:12
http://pcsupport.about.com/od/error...

and this from M$ Technet - may be the one to regard and follow?

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-gb/...

Another "fix" posted here in the past and elsewhere - and it presumes your hHP Pavilion is a laptop... - is to power down the laptop; remove power cord - and also the battery. Leave it alone for a few minutes (the time seems to vary but is often around 5 minutes. Then restore battery, and pooer up (mains or battery) and se if it al works...

Another option (one Derek often suggests for a range of "odd" events - and error 43 is sometimes odd in in the way it arrives) - is to remove the power cord and battery - and then press and hold the on/off button for about 10 seconds or so. Then restore the battery etc and power up....

If I've got Derek's routine incorrect - apologies to him - he will amend/correct it as needs-be.

One other possibility is that the drive in its case may need to be reseated...; or that the actual connection at the case end of the usb cable (the actual socket) isn't quite as solid/good as it might be.. Some of them are occasionally found to be so...

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#14
November 9, 2014 at 12:15:54
"one Derek often suggests"

Yes it has helped me out several times and others too. For some reason it has not helped much lately on here but at least it is easy to try.

Always pop back and let us know the outcome - thanks


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#15
November 17, 2014 at 15:39:51
Guess I need to update you. For whatever reason I do not get a 43 error anymore. However on booting it may or may not be recognized and available to me. When it is not available to me ask Windows to find a river which it does, but doesn't tell me anymore--so I know there is driver in the computer for this drive. I have now found that if it is not available I merely power it off and then on and there it is. I don't really mind as some day I'll no longer have any use for the info.

Please don't be concerned about my problem--I'm OK just the way it is. Thanks a bunch for all of your help. Uncle Dewey


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#16
November 17, 2014 at 16:05:47
Strange, you normally just plug in USB drives or enclosures and they pick up Windows own drivers without the need to search for anything special.

Whatever, I note that you are happy to get by with your workaround so I hope you manage to copy everything across that you need, over the course of time.

Good luck.

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