Solved I want to be able to still run a windows 7 prog in 10 years

January 21, 2017 at 07:49:08
Specs: Windows 7
I have a spread sheet type prog which runs happily on a Win 7 laptop, I record data on to the prog which is designed for this purpose. The laptop is kept solely for that programme/purpose. I do not need any internet connection for the prog. I cannot update the prog to run on later versions of windows, It will not run on win 10, I cannot extract the data and reload on to another prog. In short the prog is tied to win 7 or earlier versions : I want to to still run that prog in 20 years time. Assuming the laptop expires before that then?
I'm now at the point where I'm stumped on what to ask for the best because my understanding of what is possible is thin. Could I reasonably expect to load Win 7 on a new machine designed to run windows 2035. I know I'm asking for crystal ball thinking but if you take up the challenge. i'm happy to offer any further info. I have a lot more thoughts /questions on this issue but i'll leave it there for the moment.

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January 21, 2017 at 10:16:58
The question that comes to my mind is this. Are you making back files of your spreadsheet program.

As stated above, no one can predict what the future will bring. That said, I have a computer that was set up as a jukebox over 15 years ago with Win98se. That computer still works and I occasionally do use it to play music. No internet, no updates, etc.

The music that resides on that computer is backed up in 4 places. So, if that computer craps out I still have access to those music files (MP3s).

What accounting program are you using and what is the file extension of the spreadsheet files?



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January 21, 2017 at 08:43:27
"Could I reasonably expect to load Win 7 on a new machine designed to run windows 2035."
No. In fact I would consider that highly unlikely. For 2025 the chances are better but still not good. Even now in 2017 there are many new computers on which Windows 7 can be installed only with considerable difficulty.

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January 21, 2017 at 09:25:11
Why all the mystery about the "spread sheet type program"? If you don't think you'll find a replacement program between now & 2035, I suggest you mothball a Windows 7 computer now, maybe several, so that you can continue to use your program for the next 20 years.

Not one of us knows what the future will hold - will Windows even exist in 2035? It's already being predicted that smartphones will be obsolete by 2025, being replaced by Augmented Reality devices. What does that say for the future of laptops & desktops?


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#3
January 21, 2017 at 10:15:38
It would be more sensible, and more future proof, to update the spreadsheet to run on modern hardware. You are asking for the equivalent of running a VisiCalc spreadsheet today.

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January 21, 2017 at 10:16:58
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The question that comes to my mind is this. Are you making back files of your spreadsheet program.

As stated above, no one can predict what the future will bring. That said, I have a computer that was set up as a jukebox over 15 years ago with Win98se. That computer still works and I occasionally do use it to play music. No internet, no updates, etc.

The music that resides on that computer is backed up in 4 places. So, if that computer craps out I still have access to those music files (MP3s).

What accounting program are you using and what is the file extension of the spreadsheet files?


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#5
January 21, 2017 at 10:23:46
Do you know which version of Windows the program was
originally designed for? I'm no expert, but I find it very odd
that it will run on Windows 7 but not Windows 10. Have you
tried changing the Compatibility Mode setting?

I'm curious what could be in the program that it would work
with Windows 7 but not Windows 10.

-- Jeff, in Minneapolis


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#6
January 21, 2017 at 12:10:49
Hi "guys" Wow! I didn't expect so much so quick. Beers all round.
Lmiller: Thanks for confirming my thoughts."even now in 2017"... I didnt know that but id have guessed at maybe.
Riider: Yep pretty much came to same conclusion, may do the same with my car!
ijack: If I pay out £100+ ish a year at todays price,i'd get a prog that would do the job, Plus 200% more than I need over kill or what?
Othehill: I have no shortage of backups. Yet the b.ups only work on that prog, You have MP3.files..Imagine if Itunes were the only prog to recognise MP3 files and it was to cease? change the format and risk mixing data from Elvis with Kylie? I can export data (QIF) but that route does not cover all the existing info..Who mentioned "accounting" very good detective work there. "Quicken UK version" (Q*) and the extension is QIF for a part copy, which the one off cost progs, only recognise some data. Q is no longer produced for UK market ..Keep reading...
Jeff root:Win XP:: Along with MANY others I have tried a lot of angles, including buying a Canadian version of "Quicken" all gave limited success. Jiosof M.M is ok but lacks the whistles.If its got to be "fix" then i may as well stick with what i am used to.
If i make another 20 years I'll be well beyond my sell by date and i may forget what a computer is due to oldtimers, but just in case i surprise everybody!!!
Thanks again to you all I much appreciate your time

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#7
January 21, 2017 at 12:46:42
Who pays for software? ;-)

Did you check these Quicken alternative? https://investorjunkie.com/34932/qu...


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#8
January 21, 2017 at 14:35:01
Well, me 2 x over. 1 x Quicken 2010 Canadian V + 1 x Jiosoft money manger.
http://www.jiosoft.co.uk/quicken-uk... I did see the alternatives from that link but decided nothing sounded like it was a good swap. The jiosoft prog bears the Quicken name, so i guess there is some tie up between intuit and jiosoft or their backers/partners. Regrettably as the article points out there is no real contender , born out perhaps by the number of posters looking for a solution on various forums. Further as is said WHY? was it too successful and posed a threat to Quick Books? personally I don't see that but then i'm not running a business. At about £30-40 for quicken every 2-3 years it was great for personal finance. With Quick books costing £6 a month its not to bad for the first year at £72 but over 20 or even 10 (1 every 2yrs, there is a considerable difference. Not forgetting i don't need a lot of what is offered by Quickbooks .




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January 21, 2017 at 16:54:29
RandS

The reason I have MP3s is because they are by far the most common file type for music. Virtually all media players can read MP3 files.

I asked what the name of your program was and what file extension was assigned to the files.

If you can't see the file extensions then you can change a Windows setting to display the full file name for common files.

riider made a good suggestion. Just keep a computer around that can run Windows 7 and keep both a copy of Windows 7 and a copy of the spreadsheet program. Also any additional driver files you may need to run Win7 on the hardware you mothball.

If you do that, I suggest you make it a desktop, because they are easier to fix when they break.

I am sitting in my office on a relatively new computer running Windows 7. I also have an older desktop next to me that has Vista 32 bit version on it. The sole reason for maintaining the Vista box is to run an older LEGAL version of Chief Architect. I paid dearly for the version I have but it is no longer supported. That version will install on Windows 7 64 bit but the USB dongle that is required in order to open the program has no drivers available for 64 bit. I am not willing to upgrade for the little I still use that CAD program. The point is, you need to improvise. I suspect there are conversion programs. After all, other software companies would like you to switch to them and realize you have an archived data base.



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January 22, 2017 at 01:58:10
Thanks Othehill,
You have answered another question. one i didnt ask, as to the best policy so far as Laptop/Desktop. the one of longevity. i'd guessed that a desktop may be better lasting so I had a quick look around last night and a "NEW" win 7 desktop can be brought for £150 ish (i didn't look too deeply at it) so it may just be an empty box with a half brick inside but that is about what i'd expect an "old" PC to go for.
I figure ill set it up and access it via a home network, which I think should keep the hardware to just the computer and a router.



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