I have AutoUpdate Disabled but still updating

July 10, 2011 at 12:54:51
Specs: Windows 7, 4G RAM
I have Auto-Update Disabled but my Win7 64 bit Ultimate is still updating. I want to be in control of my own updates and have been able to run them manually when and how I like until just recently. Starting 3 days ago, I come back to my system and have a pop-up windows saying Windows has run updates and needs to restart, Now or Later.

I've recently installed several new programs that might be back-dooring an auto-update? Am I searching for a needle here or what?!

1. AMD Catalyst Suit
2. Advanced System Care and their Malware defense
3. Comodo Free Firewall
4. ThinVNC and Teamviewer 6

Any thoughts as to which of these might be the Auto-updating culprit? Windows Security (and perhaps other) patches?

Seems like I could 'head them all off at the pass' by disabling Windows itself from updating, but even with the following settings, the updates are coming through: I have set Windows Update in Control Panel to Never Update, I have disabled Bonjour Service and Windows Update, in Services.


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July 10, 2011 at 13:49:55
Look at the link below. That link is from the Windows update screen in Control Panel.


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July 10, 2011 at 14:58:32
You want the updates.

I have tried to phrase this better but can't find a way.
Since you can't seem to stop them, you are not informed enough to choose what updates to select.

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July 11, 2011 at 11:09:36
Dear jefro:

"You want the updates."

What are you, 12 years old?

The immediate questions comes from a 9,000 system installation, where I installed fiber optics into any of the 20 IBM mainframes 21 years ago and continue to manage 'from home.' I own 5 computer companies, am a published technical writer, went to law school, and own a bike probably more expensive than your car.

Now let's take "1" system, install six more virtual systems on it running not just Windows, as you probably incorrectly assume as Mr. Know It All, but Google, Ubuntu, and 5 others, configure them all to connect back to any of 6 different server platforms, across any of 60 different Cisco Routers, with an array of client based industry specific databases, and enterprise-class managed systems, setup Active Directory for a few, some with enforced policies and some without, inter alia, and find an odd anomaly with 1 of the virtual systems, on 1 of the 9,000 other systems, post a simplified question for low-level creative types as yourself, and what do you get?

You get You Mr. jefro - without even knowing what is possible, or being tested, in a multi-billion dollar infrastructure, you would assume to know more than the person posting the question?

Here's something you do not have to assume: I have tried to phrase this better but can't find a way. Your reply is short-sited at best, but certainly arrogant and completely useless.

Now go play with the incapable and leave the work to the engineers.

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July 11, 2011 at 11:14:26
Dear OtheHill:

Thank you for your reply, but on that link, the best information given has already been addressed in my original post. In particular, "Controlling the Update Services" section.

There is a mention of Tokens that I'm considering elsewhere on the page.

Is there something else here I don't see that you are referring too?

Thank you for your thoughts thus far.

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July 11, 2011 at 13:00:42
Temporarily download and install PCTools Plus free Firewall. Once it has settled in it should tell you which of the listed items (or others) is trying to get onto the internet.

Of-course you would be well advised to disable any other firewall while using it (assuming you haven't already got a firewall that will do this - not stated).

Note that I have not checked this out on 64 bit. It says Win7 so I would hope that is not an issue.

Always pop back and let us know the outcome - thanks

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July 11, 2011 at 13:28:54
Good luck.

1/3 of highway deaths are caused by drunks. The rest are by people who can't drive any better than a drunk.

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July 11, 2011 at 14:56:42
If this problem only started a few days ago why not just roll back to an earlier restore point?

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July 11, 2011 at 18:10:12

Turn off Automatic Updates
If you want to turn off the automatic updates, follow these steps:

Click Start, click Run, type sysdm.cpl, and then press ENTER.
Click the Automatic Updates tab, and then click to select Turn off Automatic Updates.
Click OK.

Your system was most likely set to download updates and you had only set it to remind you on when to install.

Simple mistake, anyone could have done it.

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1/3 of highway deaths are caused by drunks. The rest are by people who can't drive any better than a drunk.

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