Everything on a Windows 7 computer opens slow

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April 7, 2011 at 00:57:12
Specs: Windows 7, 2.394 GHz / 6143 MB
The computer I am refering to is my brothers. It is running win 7 ultimate 64 bit same as mine but he has a 3.0 cpu and 8 gbs of ram where as I am only running 6gbs of ram. When we click on say IE it just shows the desktop for around 10 seconds and then IE opens. Once opened browsing is smooth and quick. Same thing if we go to say control panel. Again we get the desktop for roughly 10 seconds and then the control panel opens. I guess to say it is slow is wrong. It is delayed in opening anything. Once the control panel is opened anything we click there opens imediately. In the past I would be thinking ram or a resource hog of some sort running but I just don't see that here. Could we have shutdown a process that has caused this delay? We are both using Avast by the way to rule out McAfee or Norton.

This is something that has had me stumped for a while. I have just let it go because it was just annoying not really hurting anything.

Edit: I had not thought about before but just noticed if I have one instance of IE open and open another the second opens right up no delay.

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#1
April 7, 2011 at 11:12:02
It sounds like an antivirus issue. You can check by putting a test program in Avast's Ignore bin and seeing if there's a start-up difference.

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April 7, 2011 at 12:23:38
I am not sure I follow because we have run this computer without any AV and had the same results.

Maybe I need to clarify a bit. System startup or boot is just fine. It makes no difference how long the computer has been running there is a delay in opening almost anything. If we say click on the My Computer Icon it will take anywhere from 5 - 20 seconds to open once open though when I click on the drives they pop right open. same thing with IE. When I click the IE icon it takes a moment to open. Once open I can click through pages like crazy. Also if I have say the control panel opened and click on my computer it opens right up. It is just when nothing else is open. I am totally puzzled.

Edit: Just for reference I have tried changing the virtual memory and it made no difference at all. It is again set to system managed. Also with the system idol there are 36 running process now nothing seems to be hogging up resources.
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April 7, 2011 at 15:20:45
Then clearly the AV is not the problem. But is that the only scanner running? Some people run multiple scanners, and some firewalls scan too. Because it sounds like the executable is being scanned on opening, then after that it's clear sailing. You might be able to see some activity with Process Explorer.

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#4
April 7, 2011 at 20:58:09
There are no software firewalls installed and windows firewall has been disabled. Actually there has not been much installed at all this is why I was thinking maybe a disabled service or process. I disabled a lot of the default processes that windows installs. On my machine this made a difference and I am sure I have the same things disabled on his. Just wandering if there is a service or process that affects this behavior. I do understand what you are getting at though. When I open something windows or explorer takes a moment to search for it and once it is opened there is a link established so it does not need to be searched for again. I am just not understanding why his has to search and mine does not. His has never been networked to a mapped drive or anything like that where as mine is part of a wired home network and four vpns with clients. I know his is not searching for that drive but would understand why mine would be so again I am lost.

Something wrong with explorer maybe??

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#5
April 8, 2011 at 04:33:16
Maybe a SFC is in order. Did you disable the Windows Search service? I don't see how that would affect shortcuts though.

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#6
April 8, 2011 at 05:07:39
have you tried to create a new partition, reinstall windows, and see if you still have the same issue, only takes 20 mins to install and you save hours/days of irritation..if all is good with the new installation, transfer files and set as the 1st boot .then delete the old win7 partition.

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April 8, 2011 at 10:33:16
Actually a few hours ago we delted both partitions c: and d: on that drive and started over. After the install of win 7 and all the needed drivers I again went about disabling things that I felt he didn't need. After this all was well. We then loaded all the MS updates including IE 9, he just had to have it, and sp1. After several reboots along the way all was good. Everything popped open like a hot soda pop. We left it running and went out for a bit when we came back we are back to the delay again. I dumped IE 9 and went back to 8 because that's what I am running but it didn't change anything. After going around the block here I am lost again. I think for now I am going to tell him to live with it.
Edit: @paul no I use the search over the indexing service it seems to me to use up less resources. I thought about that and turned on indexing and turned off search with no change and left both turned on with no change.
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April 8, 2011 at 11:01:02
Okay I know I am probably reaching way out in left field here but I just noticed when he partitioned his drives he made them all primary partitions all 7 of them 8 if ya count the little 100mb system partition. Mine are extended partitions.

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April 8, 2011 at 13:08:06
Traditional MBR supports only four primary partitions. There's a new disk technology that supports more, by relying on that first service partition for the space to do the mapping. But I don't think Win7 automatically formats disks to do so. Unless you're running that new system (can't think of the name), I have no idea how you got more than four Primaries on there.

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#10
April 8, 2011 at 20:26:35
you might want to try sophos root kit detection, its free.
also uncheck all the disabled items and start again.
try a system restore to a point before each update, maybe you can work out the individual update that maybe causing the issue.

although this does sounds like a problem with the startup after either hibernation or sleep

you might try to disable hibernation, and sleep, im pretty sure that will make a difference, also check all the power settings. it maybe that you have a problem with the win 7 power option and the manufacturers power options.

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#11
April 8, 2011 at 22:03:19
@ paul There are two physical drives in the system. One drive ( C: & D: ) = 160 gbs and one (E: - I: ) 1tbs. How he got five primary partitions on that drive is beyond me I always thought there could be no more than four per physical drive.

@ princecorum I'll give sophos a try. Both hibernation and sleep are disabled on both our systems. With both sleep is when we turn them off. Not sure how to describe power settings. They are both set for high performance with a few changes. Basically taking hibernation and sleep out of the equation. Everything that can be is set to turn off never. I have a power back up he does not but I can't see that having anything to do with this.

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April 8, 2011 at 23:29:00
Sophos root kit detection gave me four temporary internet files and recomended I do not clean them. I have improved the situation a bit by playing around with the service processes. There is still a delay but not as long. I may need to clarify a bit here. When the system is booted there doesn't appear to be anything hanging or taking time. Yeah it takes a few seconds to load but so does mine. There doesn't seem to be any hesitation beyond that like I have seen with some systems. when the desktop appears it is all at once basically.

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