Duplicate IE8 icons in Windows 7 start menu

Hewlett-packard / Dv4-1030ee
September 1, 2010 at 01:12:02
Specs: Windows 7 Pro, 2.0 Ghz with 2Gb RAM
As I prefer to not use Aero, plus I prefer 'classic view' (I mention that as maybe that's why I'm seeing duplicated IE8 icons in the start menu).

I dunno, if so, maybe that too is why I never yet have been able to follow many of MS's instructions where we're told to enter something in the start>search box (and as my os doesn't have any such box to enter things, I have to assume MS's instructions hardly ever, if ever, are specific to users running classic view) and nevertheless, assumedly those instructions apparently lack instructions for classic view users, ie; expectedly explaining that such users, should instead go to the start>run box'. Or am I wrong? I digress, not the real point of my posting.

My wish here is to determine from other users if they too have noticed something unusual about their W7's IE8 icons, ref. not only do the icons appear in two places, eg; one or more icons are seen in the left-hand column after clicking the start button and I also find a "set" of IE8 icons when I click on start>All Programs.

While the start menu lists my one IE8 icon (titled "Launch Internet Explorer Browser"), I notice that when I click start>All programs, not one but two IE8 icons are listed, ie; one is also titled as mentioned, plus I see a second IE8 icon (titled "Internet Explorer").

While the properties for all three of these IE8 icons list the same target ("C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe"), I notice that the properties for the IE8 icon (titled "Internet Explorer") differs from the other two in two aspects, ie; the "start in" dialog box lists %HOMEDRIVE%%HOMEPATH% while the other two icons list a start in as C:\Users\'My User Name'.

In that all three icons seem to merely open the IE browser, can someone explain why Windows lists my three IE8 icons (are they afraid we'll lose one or two?) and/or moreover, is there some significance in the use of these two differing icons (regarding the two differing 'start in' dialogs)?

Regards and hap-e-trails, Steve Hopper


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#1
September 1, 2010 at 02:26:14
In the left column of your start menu, there are listed the last used programs. So if you used IE, it's listed in there. If you use e.g. Notepad, it should also get listed there.

Depending on whether you run Windows 7 64 Bit or Windows 7 32-Bit version, you have several entries for Internet Explorer in start menu. One of them is still IE (32-Bit), another is IE (without Add-ons) and one is IE (64-Bit).

Btw. The Run box has nothing to do with the search box in the default menu in Windows 7.

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#2
September 1, 2010 at 19:19:22
You say that 'the Left-hand colum of start menu lists recently used programs', that sounds familiar, but also left-hand column lists programs that the user and/or (I think that) Windows itself "pinned to start menu". I've since realized/recalled that I've pinned the "Launch Internet Explorer Browser" IE8 icon to the start menu and it's properties are exactly as the one in All Programs listed IE8 icon, but the crux of my post question's why that list also lists an IE8 icon labeled as "Internet Explorer".

If as you say, one's supposedly for opening IE without add-ons, I couldn't (or am unknowing how to) verify that summation (as each IE icon opens the browser and when I check to see if the add-ons are enable, both IE browsers indicate that add-ons are enabled). And that icon ("Internet Explorer") has properties differing from the "Launch Internet Explorer Browser" as it's icon is dialogged for 'start in' %HOMEDRIVE%%HOMEPATH% while both the "Launch Internet Explorer Browser" IE8 icons 'start in' C:\Users\'My User Name'.

So when you kindly replied saying "One of them is still IE (32-Bit), another is IE (without Add-ons) and one is IE (64-Bit).", since my W7 is 32 bit software, are you saying that users who install IE8 (and do so for a 32 bit system) that the IE8's installs include a 64 bit shortcut icon? Likely not, so I'm still thinking 'why are there are IE8 icons for "Launch Internet Explorer Browser" and "Internet Explorer".

Could it simply be that my upgrading to IE8 (I think my W7's install disk originally installed IE7) could have resulted in errantly not deleting an older IE7 icon?

With respect to the 'search box' mentions, I don't ever recall finding one, default start menu and/or in Classic View. I know I used to have a "Search" link there to open the Windows search utility, but I found that utility frequently not listing items I knew were on the system, so I've gone to a faster and more reliable (freeware) third-party search utility ("Search Everything"). Maybe you could screenshot it (so I could see exactly what you're saying is in the default W7's start menu)?

Many thanks for your generous reply/replies.

Regards and hap-e-trails, Steve Hopper


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#3
September 1, 2010 at 23:51:58
In the left pane, there is also a part, where you can pin your own most frequently used programs, right. This is just like in Windows XP.

In the 32-bit version of Windows 7, there is no Internet Explorer 64-bit. That wouldn't make sense in a 32-bit environment and couldn't run.

As you mentioned, it is possible, that one of your IE icons in the start menu is an old entry of the IE7 and the other is a new entry for IE8 that differ in it's naming.
Another cause could be, that one of the entries is listed in the users profile folder, while the other is listed in "All Users", which is know located in the folder \ProgramData.

The search functionality depends on the search indexes, windows uses. E.g.: Windows indexes documents, music files, pictures, programs a.s.o.
You can customize the search or extend the windows search by your own and create a search index for files with the extension .abc.
But if you prefer to use your own program, like I do, to find your files, it's quite ok.

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#4
September 2, 2010 at 01:32:18
Not wanting to beleague my asking about a "search box', but I'd really like to know where such a 'box' is supposed to be. And since you said...The Run box has nothing to do with the search box in the default menu in Windows 7, I sure hoped you'd clue me in on what it is, where it's supposedly at, or if it's a non-classic view utility, or what.

I clearly recall reading (on many occasions) MS articles and even some forum posts, referring to us supposedly going to the start "search box" and typing in things (in order to accomplish tasks and what not).

But as I keep repeating, I've never found such a 'search box', and I'm left to believe that for some reason, such references must be pertaining to the "run" box.

But thanks for the replies.

Anyone knowing why I ('we'?) have an IE8 "Launch Internet Explorer Browser" icon AND another identical icon titled "Internet Explorer", pleeze jump in an explain why one's got a "start in" as "%HOMEDRIVE%%HOMEPATH%" while the other icon somewhat inexplicably 'starts in' C:\Users\'My User Name'.

Regards and hap-e-trails, Steve Hopper


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#5
September 2, 2010 at 01:45:01
The search box is not available in the classic start menu, if you have used a tool, to get the XP Style Start Menu.
I use "ClassicShellSetip v1.9.6" which allows me to make some settings on what to show in the start menu.
Also I can press the SHIFT key and click on the start menu and get the original Windows 7 Start Menu. And in this original start menu, you'll find the search box.

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#6
September 2, 2010 at 02:46:47
But what is a search box? Simply an aberant reference to Windows search utility, synonimous to a run box, what?

Regards and hap-e-trails, Steve Hopper


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#7
September 2, 2010 at 04:18:56
While you are typing the first letters in the search box, the start menu changes it's appearance and shows the hits, found so far.

E,g,; When typing regedit in the search box, it shows several hits like Region and settings a.s.o., until you typed enough letters, so that your search is distinct, the box shows only regedit.
In that case, you don't have to know the path to the program or file. You then can click the file or program to open or start.
That's quite handy.
It looks like this:
http://www.windowsnetworking.com/ar...

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#8
September 2, 2010 at 18:25:27
Thanks but unbelievably I still find no real explanation for what is the search box as neither questions seem clearly responded to (if at all)., ref; 'Can you provide a screenshot of your 'search box' and "what is the search box".

Also the link you provided oddly only takes me back to this webpage, nothing else. it links to computing net and not anything Google. Weird.

Regards and hap-e-trails, Steve Hopper


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#9
September 2, 2010 at 23:18:52
Oh sorry, posted the wrong link in #7.
So look at this:
http://www.windowsnetworking.com/ar...

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#10
September 3, 2010 at 02:37:16
Oh wow. I really don't think I've ever seen that, but then I almost always immediately go to classic view after any installs and re-installs.

Thanks for sticking with me on that, It really bugged me that so often it's referred to and I've never seen a "search box".

Typical of MS to give instructions and hardly ever mention anything about instructions for us holdouts (who use Classic View).

Regards and hap-e-trails, Steve Hopper


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#11
September 3, 2010 at 02:57:06
As I mentioned above, you can use classic start menu and have the ability, to get the original start menu by holding down the SHIFT key and then clicking on the start menu button, if you use something like "ClassicShellSetip v1.9.6".

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#12
September 4, 2010 at 21:51:51
Thanks again. I should have mentioned that I tried shift+start and find no difference in the start menu.

As for ClassicShellSetip, I used "Search Everything" as well as regedit (looking for ClassicShellSetip) and nothing popped up. Whatever. Again thanks for replies.

Does anyone else have these IE8 icons and do they differ in their 'start in', ref. "%HOMEDRIVE%%HOMEPATH%" and C:\Users\'My User Name'?

If so, does anyone know why the W7 start>all programs apparently needs to list these two icons, ie; "Launch Internet Explorer Browser" AND "Internet Explorer"?

Regards and hap-e-trails, Steve Hopper


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#13
September 10, 2010 at 21:06:11
Noticed that my XP machine's having but one IE8 icon that points to a 'start in' of C:\Users\me (ie; apparently the 'home drive'), to some degree I'm starting to come to an understanding why Start>All Programs has two IE8 icons on my W7P machine .

One icon starts the browser via "home path" and the other, via "home drive". Why, I still don't know (confusing why use of either icon launches the browser when one icon's title has the word launch in it and the other doesn't).

From what I gather, shortcuts target 'start in' at least in two pathways, ie; home path (pointing to the root of the user profile directory which is the location of the user profile, ie; NTUSER.DAT.).

So whatever that essentially amounts to as far as which of the two IE8 icons, 'we' use, still is beyond my understanding.

Anyone got a handle on this, plaease jump in.

Maybe using the "Launch Internet Explorer Browser"

Regards and hap-e-trails, Steve Hopper


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