dual boot for win 7 & win XP and more problems...

October 16, 2016 at 09:01:55
Specs: Windows XP
I screwed up the computer and this is how I did it:

1- Installed win 7 with all programs I needed

2- installed win XP on a separate partition in hopes to install other programs and "make computer faster". Installed with option to keep existing setting (both partitions were NTSF).l ater I thought that I should have chosen "format (quick)". but.. that was later...

3- computer booted in XP only and i couldn't access another separate HHD (as a file storage).no boot in Win 7.

4 - panicked and cursed for a while.

5- using BCD boot loader editor I saw "windows 7" on a list and added "windows XP" to this list.

6- I didn't pray..

7- restarted and computer and saw this - I said something like a missing/corrupted BOOT.INI file and It did not boot at all. It kept restarting endlessly.

8- I inserted either win xp or win 7 installation disk into cd drive in order to re-install them - no luck at all. I unplugged C drive, plugged a new (fresh) one, now I see "reboot and select proper boot device or insert boot media in selected boot drive and press a key"

9- I should have prayed in step #6

9a.- I cleared motherboard "settings"with a jumper on it (asus - 3 prong jumper) - no change in computer's behavior.

10- obviously, I need your help, guys, in order to revive my computer.

Please help.

mb - Asus M3A7B-T

CPU - AMD Phenom 4 940
I screwed up the computer and this is how I did it:

1- Installed win 7 with all programs I needed

2- installed win XP on a separate partition in hopes to install other programs and "make computer faster". Installed with option to keep existing setting (both partitions were NTSF).l ater I thought that I should have chosen "format (quick)". but.. that was later...

3- computer booted in XP only and i couldn't access another separate HHD (as a file storage).no boot in Win 7.

4 - panicked and cursed for a while.

5- using BCD boot loader editor I saw "windows 7" on a list and added "windows XP" to this list.

6- I didn't pray..

7- restarted and computer and saw this - I said something like a missing/corrupted BOOT.INI file and It did not boot at all. It kept restarting endlessly.

8- I inserted either win xp or win 7 installation disk into cd drive in order to re-install them - no luck at all. I unplugged C drive, plugged a new (fresh) one, now I see "reboot and select proper boot device or insert boot media in selected boot drive and press a key"

9- I should have prayed in step #6

9a.- I cleared motherboard "settings"with a jumper on it (asus - 3 prong jumper) - no change in computer's behavior.

10- obviously, I need your help, guys, in order to revive my computer.

Please help.

mb - Asus M3A7B-T

CPU - AMD Phenom 4 940

I screwed up the computer and this is how I did it:

1- Installed win 7 with all programs I needed

2- installed win XP on a separate partition in hopes to install other programs and "make computer faster". Installed with option to keep existing setting (both partitions were NTSF).l ater I thought that I should have chosen "format (quick)". but.. that was later...

3- computer booted in XP only and i couldn't access another separate HHD (as a file storage).no boot in Win 7.

4 - panicked and cursed for a while.

5- using BCD boot loader editor I saw "windows 7" in a list and added "windows XP" to this list.

6- I didn't pray..

7- restarted and computer and saw this - I said something like a missing/corrupted BOOT.INI file and It did not boot at all. It kept restarting endlessly.

8- I inserted either win xp or win 7 installation disk into cd drive in order to re-install them - no luck at all. I unplugged C drive, plugged a new (fresh) one, now I see "reboot and select proper boot device or insert boot media in selected boot drive and press a key"

9- I should have prayed in step #6

9a.- I cleared motherboard "settings"with a jumper on it (asus - 3 prong jumper) - no change in computer's behavior.

10- obviously, I need your help, guys, in order to revive my computer.

Please help.

mb - Asus M3A7B-T

CPU - AMD Phenom 4 940


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#1
October 16, 2016 at 09:36:15
Ideally one instals the older OS first; then the newer.

Installing the newer first can lead to problems - depending on which OS are involved...

Instaling XP after win-7 means XP overwrite the win-7 boot-loader...; so no boot to win-7

There are various solutions for this situation:

http://tinyurl.com/yeel4u6

http://tinyurl.com/ctfncw

The second one os likely the better option - method 2 there.

Others here will also chip in with similar resolutions; so stick around and read carefully what is suggested.

If at this time you have files (personal stuff) you can access, take the time to safeguard them Copy to external storage - DVD at least, and ideally an external hard drive too. Check the copies are accessible before resolving your boot dilemma. This "safeguarding" is merely a precaution - in-case anything goes amiss during the resolution to your problem. It's all too easy to get things muddled at any time, and lose files...


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#2
October 16, 2016 at 10:05:48
the most important files are on "storage"disk, which was not accessible with win xp.
anything on c drive could be lost - f it.
but I can't even start cd to re-install either win 7 or win xp!!!
I how could I have known that installing an older OS or a separate partition f-up "main"OS??!!!!
The reason I wanted to install win xp is to have less junk running, have more ram and have a more stable OS - win 7 gave me more problems than ME, Vista combined. under win 7 computer lags constantly (up to 57 minutes) and eats up ram.

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#3
October 16, 2016 at 11:41:56
To boot from a windows setup DVD - be it any flavour of Windows: put the disk into the DVD drive; reboot and it "ought" to automatically boot into the Windows setup routine.

This presumes that the first boot device is the CD/DVD drive. If it's not and the hard drive is first boot device.. I suggest you go into the bios and change the boot order to be CD/DVD first then hard drive; and leave it that way.

I'm on Mac systems currently and it's ben a while since I booted up a windows DVD etc... You may find that simply doing as above - putting the windows disk in and rebooting the it will ask you if you wish to boot from the DVD, which obviously you will say yes... and it il go into the whole windows set up/installation routine Run a repair installation for Windows7 and it will do what's required.

There are various guides and approaches to the repair installation; have a look at these and see if you can follow one or more. What you're in effect going to do is to restore the now defunct (as in overwritten and thus gone) windows7- boot-loader. The repair installation will not change much else - other than replace any damaged or missing system files - if it finds there are any. And when the repair is complete and the boo-loader is restored it will include XP as an option.

http://tinyurl.com/gtxt3qs

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorial...

The second link is likely the better one to follow...

Incidentally it's generally wise to ensure that you actually include the name of the windows version you have in each partition; rather than simply the default winnt or windows... Those defaults can be changed either during setup of a given windows OS, or later by editing the boot.ini file. When the win-7 repair has finished, it will have set itself as default OS to boot; which is the standard practice of all windows OS. The last in sets itself as the default OS to boot.

I don't follow this statement below; why is XP unable to access the storage disk/partition?

the most important files are on "storage"disk, which was not accessible with win xp.

I'd be inclined to secure those files even at this stage. To this end download and burn to a DVD the ISO for ubuntu - ubuntu.com. It's a free linux variant.

Boot with the DVD and it will load into RAM only - unless you tell it to install to the hard drive (which do NOT).

It will boot into a windows style desktop, from where you can view and access all partitions on the hard drive. That way you can safely copy important personal files etc. to external storage.

Also be aware that whichever flavour of windows is booted up - it will be tagged as C: when it's booted into the desktop; even if the actual system files for the windows version booted up are in another partition (D: or E: and so on).


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#4
October 16, 2016 at 11:55:45
first link won''t apply to me - I don't have disk anymore.
second link - I'm banned there, because I posted a similar message/post this morning and they thought it's a spam.
I used boot repair CD, suggested by others on other site, but it only removed an error message about bad BOOT.ini file, and computer keeps rebooting///

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#5
October 16, 2016 at 12:30:48
i'll cpy the files using ubuntu disk,
personally, I hate ms windows and like linux! but, I can't use my software with linux (
i'll update on ubuntu thing, but, I think, the rebooting issue will remain,
I;ll keep you posted...

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#6
October 16, 2016 at 13:39:24
how could I have known that installing an older OS or a separate partition f-up "main"OS?"
Google, or approach a computer forum to find the appropriate way forward before making the changes.

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#7
October 16, 2016 at 14:38:14
If you know the key for for your win-7 installation you can legally use any disk of the same type to re-install win-7 (or run a repair routine).

If your win-7 is a retail version use a retail disk; similarly if it's an OEM use an OEM disk.

You cannot use OEM disk with a Retail key and visa-versa.

You can legally download ISO for both versions. Also if you contact M$-land they will likely help you secure a download of the appropriate flavour.

Also OEM disks are available on the web for not much; and likely at computer fairs/clearance houses too. Just don't get one branded for a specific make of computer...

I think there is another disk you can use to resolve it all - similar to the one you may have tried - but actually quite different.

http://www.lazesoft.com/lazesoft-wi...

JohnW (who regularly suggests using it) may drop across here and advise about it; but no harm to download and try it (there is a freebie version/period...)

Check out the guides section too - lots of useful info/help there; including data access/recovery.

Incidentally I make a duplicate of any OS disk I get; and "never" part with it... Never know when it may be required...

I don't understand how you're banned from the second/link site? Clear your cookies etc. and try again? Or if that fails... create a new login (probably need another email address too for this new login if they ask for one)?


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#8
October 16, 2016 at 20:57:05
After resetting BIOS to CD/DVD as first boot device and restarting with disk in drive you may get a tiny note at the bottom that says "tap any key to boot from CD/DVD", this is what you need to do at this point.
While you can use a Windows 7 install disk to do a repair install, you can also use a Windows 7 Repair Disk to do a Start Up Repair which will replace the boot loader as well. If you do not have the repair disk you can make one an any Windows 7 machine in the Back Up Section. The only requirement is that for 64bit versions of 7 you will need to make it on another 64bit Windows 7 machine and the same for 32bit versions of Windows 7. The start up repair will get Windows 7 running again though I am not as sure it it will also add XP to the boot list but you can add it later in Windows 7 by Running msconfig and going to the boot tab (Select Run from Start and type: msconfig).

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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#9
October 17, 2016 at 06:33:06
Rather than trying to fix this mess, I suggest you start over. I don't know why you reset the BIOS, but some people seem to believe it's the "mother of all fixes". Did you then enter the BIOS & reconfigure all the settings again? Date, time, boot order, CPU & RAM settings, etc, etc. Chances are, some or all of these settings are now incorrect. So before doing anything else, make sure your BIOS settings are all in order.

Once you've done that, back up ALL your important files, then disconnect the storage drive so that you don't risk messing it up.

There are several different methods of setting up the dual boot...here's what I suggest:

Boot off the XP disk, "press any key..." when prompted, & when you get to the screen showing partitions, delete ALL of them so that you have nothing left but unpartitioned space. Create one new partition using all available space & format as NTFS. If you choose Full rather than Quick, plan on it taking quite a while. Once the formatting is done, complete the XP installation. Don't waste your time running Windows Update, installing drivers, or installing your programs right away, that can all be done later. Some will tell you to use Disk Management to repartition the HDD, but I suggest you download & install EaseUS Partition Master Free Edition & then use it to create the Win7 partition. Use whichever method you feel more comfortable with.

http://www.easeus.com/download/epmf...

There are a couple of different ways to perform the Win7 installation but the way I prefer to do it is to simply pop the Win7 disc in the DVD drive while booted into XP. Wait until it pops up on your screen & then follow the instructions. Make sure it installs to the new partition that you just created. The dual boot menu will be automatically created.

Once you've completed the installations & have confirmed that you can boot to either OS, you can then concentrate on installing all the drivers, updates, programs, etc. And don't forget to tweak each OS for best performance!


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#10
October 17, 2016 at 21:05:32
Thank you, guys, for your suggestions.
If I messed up installation sequence of windows versions and messed up (added windows xp to windows 7 in boot file editor (I dont' recall it's name - neosmart easyBSD?), I'd think that The boot file change was the sole cause of computer's problem.
I already installed Ubuntu on the same HHD (separate partition) and access/copied files that I immediately needed (from both, C and storage drives). Could I find and edit boot file and will this action fix my problem? After installation of Win XP on computer with Win7, I could only use Win XP, and there was no screen at boot up to choose OS' 9 (win & or win XP).
.If my though is incorrect, I'll have to reinstall everything, as you suggested. bu that will happen in a few days....I'll keep you posted...

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#11
October 18, 2016 at 00:19:18
Have you considered securing, getting a win-7 dvd and using it to run a repair routine - as suggested in various replies above?

Either download an ISO for an OEM, or even buy a disk, via various sources. Likewise contact M$,and, as long as you have a valid ket, likely they will help you get a replacement disk, or to download the appropriate ISO.

What is your win-7 installation; is it from an OEM disk, or a Retail? Whichever it is you use your key with the appropriate disk.

If you can go one of the above routes then you can avoid need to re-install win-7, or even a total rebuild...; which rebuild will include re-installing u untu in all probability (if you still want ubntu unstalled).

Equally making a repair disk as per fingers #8 suggestion?

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#12
October 18, 2016 at 20:43:32
Another option is to use Linux Grub boot manager which should find both Windows installations. Otherwise I would go with the Start up repair first since it is easier and less destructive. If all else fails you can always reinstall anyway. If you plan to multi boot including a Linux distro, Grub will be needed anyway.

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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