Solved credentials needed to backup over the network

Ultimate Windows 7 ultimate 64-bit
July 7, 2011 at 00:45:30
Specs: Windows 7, I5 2500k 4gb
Hi,

All I want to do is use the built in MS backup to back up a fresh install of Win7 to my network drive.
I have three computers all running Win7 Ultimate 64bit, my HTPC is the one with all the Harddrives and it is where I put all my backups etc. I have full read write access from all computers to the F: drive where I want to put the backup. All of the sharing center options are set to public folders avaliable to all with network access, and password protected sharing is off, also none of the computer require a password to log onto them, they have user names no passwords.

The router is secure enough, with passwords and IP limited etc as i dont want each computer to have a password.

The problem is then - Why cant i use MS backup, to back up this computer and save the backup over the network to my HTPC without credentials of some sort?

Thanks in advance


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July 8, 2011 at 19:46:38
Pretty sure you need to access shares by a user that has also a password unless you have service pack 1 or below on xp.

I didn't say create a new user, I meant to say that a user with a password is needed.

NTbackup needs a windows type of setup. You can't use nfs easily or at all that I know of. I doubt you could get ftp to work so you are kind of stuck with a windows share.

guess you could go to the MS site for ways to use ntbackup over a network. I'd still think that command net use would still need a password. Dunno, maybe you could create a webdave folder. It is a windows deal and might work.

I just use a user that has a password.

1/3 of highway deaths are caused by drunks. The rest are by people who can't drive any better than a drunk.



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July 7, 2011 at 12:46:47
Is the software in the link below what you are trying to use?

http://www.msbackuprecovery.net/

Windows 7 has its own backup utility that may be set as the default.

I am not familiar with that software but maybe you can't use it over a network.


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#2
July 7, 2011 at 13:08:41
What you do is create a share on a remote computer that is under a user and the user has a password.

Then on the W7 use the map drive as a user (and use name and password of the remote user).

It will then be much easier to use tools. You simply point your app to the now assigned drive letter. It will then go to the share.

1/3 of highway deaths are caused by drunks. The rest are by people who can't drive any better than a drunk.


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July 7, 2011 at 22:29:29
The software I am using is the backup which is part of Win 7, which I thought was called MS backup, the software intergrated into Win7, thats the one giving me problems.

@jefro so you are saying that with out some kind of username passworded account it isnt possible to use this backup over the network.

Creating another username setting passwords on my machine is exactly what I didnt want to do.

Is there no work around, setting or dll or something some where I can edit to make Windows stop asking me for these things and just simply do what its meant to do?


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July 8, 2011 at 19:46:38
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Pretty sure you need to access shares by a user that has also a password unless you have service pack 1 or below on xp.

I didn't say create a new user, I meant to say that a user with a password is needed.

NTbackup needs a windows type of setup. You can't use nfs easily or at all that I know of. I doubt you could get ftp to work so you are kind of stuck with a windows share.

guess you could go to the MS site for ways to use ntbackup over a network. I'd still think that command net use would still need a password. Dunno, maybe you could create a webdave folder. It is a windows deal and might work.

I just use a user that has a password.

1/3 of highway deaths are caused by drunks. The rest are by people who can't drive any better than a drunk.


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July 8, 2011 at 20:15:48
yeah it seems that way, forced into creating some kind of username and password or cant back up over a network using the Win7 back up utilty. Any Ideas if Norton Ghost would do the trick or its the same kind of problem?

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#6
July 9, 2011 at 10:03:14
Why are you making this so complex? Just put in a password and backup the deal. If you don't like the password after then remove it. How hard is that?

Depends on the version of Ghost. Most other type of backup/image software can utilize other means of file transfer even a neat ghost to ghost deal but this still doesn't solve the leave some resource open issue.

You can backup locally to a usb drive or local disk in all of them. You can backup to some internet resource by some of them. You can backup to cd's or dvd's to some of them. (It will take a lot of dvd's to backup a system)

See also clonezilla and g4u for free ones but many other's exist. Partimage to dd command. could use dd over ftp or dd over nc or such.

1/3 of highway deaths are caused by drunks. The rest are by people who can't drive any better than a drunk.


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#7
July 9, 2011 at 11:45:30
Norton Ghost is old news. Won't work well with SATA drives or over the network.

Think about this for a bit. You are trying to image a number of drives over a network. Without usernames and passwords anyone with access to the network would have access to the images. Not very secure?


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#8
July 12, 2011 at 00:07:55
I suppose I am making it complex!!! My bad for just wanting to be able to do what I wanted with my own software rather than being dictated to - bad Microsoft bad -

Thanks for all the suggestions, i prob will just attach a password to the media computer and be done with it!!!

It is a shame though that we cant just do what we want.

@othehill the networks about as secure as it can be no one has access, wifi password 10 characters, all the computers are mapped on to the router via their mac addresses and to a specific IP address, the router is not allowed to issue any more IP addresses for wifi or wired unless i tell it to, and changed the default password for the router to more than 10 characters. Also anything of real importance is all locked away in by bitlocker which is 256 bit encirpted as far as I am aware 12 character password for that one.
Totally off topic but if I have missed something obvious let me know!!

I guess best answer goes to jefro


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