Create & restore problems with Win 7 System Restore points

August 26, 2013 at 10:47:08
Specs: Windows 7
Win 7. No restore points show, system says restore point created but non show. Occurred after deleting secondary unwanted programs associated with downloading InkSaver 2. Looks as though registry is corrupted.

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#1
August 26, 2013 at 11:35:40
If there were backups created are they on media that is currently accessible by Windows 7?

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#2
August 26, 2013 at 12:51:07
I have a repair disc, win 7 64 bit and an .iso but don't know how to use them to restore/remove any corruption without deleting all my programme files and system as it stands. Everything works normally bar sys restore. I'm not very savvy.

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#3
August 26, 2013 at 13:15:12
Just to clarify, are you saying that if you manually create a restore point it won't show properly?

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#4
August 26, 2013 at 13:51:12
Manually creating a point, at that moment in time, shows under restore.
Creating another immediately and then looking at restore, only shows the latest point.
On closing or re-booting, all restore points, in this scenario only the one created lastly, have gone and sys says no points have been created.

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#5
August 26, 2013 at 14:06:15
These two might be of interest:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2010...

http://itexpertvoice.com/home/what-...

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#6
August 26, 2013 at 14:43:13
What I was asking is where did you originally store the restore points in question? The default is an external hard drive. Is that drive accessible to Windows 7 now?

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#7
August 27, 2013 at 00:12:43
I don't have an external drive. Creating a restore point this morning; System says "point is created" but upon checking there is no point recorded. Sys says "no restore points available"

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#8
August 27, 2013 at 04:51:48
So where are the restore points going? Check the settings for Backup and Restore. You need to move the files off the computer or they are not of much use. You can burn them to a DVDR or save to an external drive. Flash drives are not dependable enough.

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#9
August 27, 2013 at 05:33:38
See if there is anything here that might help you:
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/3-chec...

Note: When you get everything working again, consider making a Disk Image of your hard drive from the back up section as well as keep a regular back up. These are independent of your restore points and System Restore. The disk or drive image can be restored to your computer using your Repair Disk, even if the entire installation of windows is corrupted or the hard drive is dead, just by wiping the drive or replacing it (formatting if needed), booting to the repair disk and loading the disk image from an external hard drive and restoring that image to the blank drive. Since that image may be months old, then you would restore your back up which should be no more than a week old, and you are 98% back to normal in much less time than reinstalling windows would have been.

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#10
August 27, 2013 at 12:21:51
Laptop has now failed. Am using Desk PC with XP. . Win 7 will not start even in safe mode. Tried the repair function but error message says "this sys cannot be repaired" The sys boots to welcome screen when using last known good boot, but welcolme screen stays there and nothing happens

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#11
August 27, 2013 at 12:48:25
That message is a new one on me. Is that "exactly" what it says? If so I am wondering if you have a nasty virus.

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#12
August 27, 2013 at 23:44:36
Been using Iobit Advanced system care + Malware fighter + Smart defrag.

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#13
August 28, 2013 at 03:52:00
See if you can boot to BIOS. If you can, first test your memory by booting to a CD you prepare with Memtest on it. Let it run through all tests, if it fails any tests or freezes, rerun it with only one stick of memory at a time to verify a good stick and a bad stick. If your memory tests good, test your hard drive in the same way with a bootable hard drive test utility from your hard drive mfg, or Seatools (DOS version) from Seagate. Run the longest test to confirm your hard drive's fitness. Report back results.
http://www.memtest86.com/download.htm
http://www.seagate.com/support/down...

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#14
August 28, 2013 at 07:33:29
"Been using Iobit Advanced system care + Malware fighter + Smart defrag

Advanced system care. Programs like that often cause more issues than they fix and could even be the reason for this issue. Best avoided in my opinion.

Malware fighter. This is not one I've ever seen recommended on this forum. See this website - gets bad reviews:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,281...

Smart defrag. Probably harmless but unnecessary. With modern high speed hard disks the results of fragmentation are minimal. Windows defrag is quite good enough.

On the malware front I would recommend the following freebies:
MalwareBytes
http://www.filehippo.com/download_m...
Install and Run this - it often finds what anti-virus programs miss.

ADWCleaner
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/dow...
This finds nasty addon toolbars and removes them. It is not "installed" as such, you just save the downloaded file somewhere and double click on it to run it. First you do the Scan, it is then worth looking at the log to see what it found. Finally run the Clean. It will probably ask you to restart your computer in order to properly remove the pests.

EDIT: I assume you also have a normal Antivirus program running in the background. There are good freebies around, so if you want recommendations shout back.

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#15
August 30, 2013 at 00:03:18
Getting stranger.. As stated, would not start, repair path said no repair possible. would not boot to safe mode. So I kept rebooting getting the same results , then at one time the start screen appeared and sat there , so I booted up again and the screen re-appeared sat there for a few minutes the welcome screen appeared for a long time. After 10 minutes of nothing the desktop started and I was able to access all programmes albeit they were very slow to load. Since then things have slowly improved, load times reduced and boots up almost as previous to the problem. Still unable to store create/restore points. I think I'll leave well alone until something else happens. Thank you all for your suggestions.

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#16
August 30, 2013 at 03:53:05
First, make sure that you have a back up of all of your personal files.
Second, run Malwarebytes to make sure that malware is not your issue.
Third, test memory and hard drive as above.
Fourth, If you made a Windows 7 Repair Disk when the system was new, you can use that to access your restore points from outside of Windows and perform a restore EVEN if the System Restore is currently corrupted or being blocked by a Virus, Root Kit, or other malware infection. If you have not made this yet, make one from a friend's Windows 7 machine (not yours) as long as both are 64bit (or 32bit) and use that to boot to and do your repair(s) from there. The Repair Disk can perform a Start Up Repair, a System Restore, and restore a previously made system disk image to the drive. All very useful.

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#17
September 2, 2013 at 12:17:44
Further to my recent report, all the replies were most useful.
The laptop is working normally as far as I can tell, loading as I would expect. Acting on advice from the replies received, I have removed IOBIT programmes, installed Malwarebytes and found about 60 PuP's by using it, no other malware was found. I still have CCLEANER installed and Tweaking.com. Any thoughts on using these two programmes?
Still cannot store and recover "create restore points".

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#18
September 2, 2013 at 12:31:11
CCleaner is fine. I've not used Tweaking.com myself but have a feeling I've seen it used by another helper on here.

Maybe some program removed valid registry entries - it can happen. Try this:
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorial...
Try number 12 on the list first, as it is quick to do and you might be lucky. If not go through the whole sequence.

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#19
September 2, 2013 at 16:36:53
There is a box you need to check on the restore point screen in order to display additional restore points. Otherwise, only the last one will show. Do you have that box ticked?

Control Panel> Recovery> Open System restore> Next> Tick the box.


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#20
September 2, 2013 at 23:47:35
Box ticked. If a second or third, ad inf, create is made these further creations eliminate the first point and no points show even when the laptop is rebooted, the first point, on any boot up, made then shows until another is made then they all disappear. Non show on reboot!

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#21
September 3, 2013 at 06:39:39
Post the full capacity of your C partition and how much free space you have. There may not be enough space for the restore point.

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#22
September 3, 2013 at 07:58:26
Yep, lack of free space could be the reason. Did you see the link in my #18?

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#23
September 3, 2013 at 20:40:19
Also, check what % of your hard disk/partition is allowed for your system restore, it is by default 15% and depending on the drive size, should be at least 10% of the drive (8% is a bit skimpy, but sometimes may be needed when the drive is nearly full and there is no option to add a second drive.

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#24
September 3, 2013 at 23:33:35
Restore set at 18% - 54Gb. Hard drive capacity 298 Gb, 98 Gb free.
Back to fault condition again. 4/9/13, 15.56... . Tried Safe Mode again but no access to system restore in this mode. On reboot "several times" it took twenty minutes to see desktop, 5 minutes to be able to start any programmes from desktop but after access gained, all programmes then load normally and quickly. Dreading turning it off.

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#25
September 4, 2013 at 11:35:55
I suggest you run a hard drive fitness test from a boot disk or flash drive. If you know the brand of hard drive download one from their site. If not, use Seatools for DOS from the link below.

http://www.seagate.com/support/down...


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#26
September 4, 2013 at 11:40:18
This might also be worth considering (but note the warning):
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorial...

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#27
September 4, 2013 at 18:50:24
If you can confirm that your memory and hard drive are good, you might be better off backing up your files to an external drive and starting over with a clean install of Windows. I know that this can be a pain reinstalling everything and personalizing it, but if you do a Factory Restore or delete the partition, create and format the new partition, and do a clean install from Windows Disk, you get a completely new start with nothing possibly left over (software wise) that could be causing the problem.
I don't generally recommend this until all other reasonable options are already tried, but if the next few things do not help, it may be your next step.

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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