Solved cannot run 16 bit software on my Windows 7 64 bit laptop

May 31, 2013 at 11:51:53
Specs: Windows 7
I cannot run 16 bit software on my 64 bit laptop. Neither can I download any of the options as I only have windows home premium.
Any ideas as I am in the middle of a plc course and everything has come to a grinding halt as I cannot use syswin34.
Tried dropbox and I am not that pc and have no idea how to use dos, even followed instructions from them and it doesn't work.
Can anyone help?

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#1
May 31, 2013 at 12:25:25
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Windows 7 64bit can run 32bit programs as long as their installers are not 16bit, but it cannot run 16bit software. Sorry.

You can install a virtual machine within Windows 7 and then install Windows XP within the virtual machine (you will need an XP install disk, but not I believe an activation key). I cannot be sure (though someone here can probably tell you) if the 16bit program will work installed under those conditions, though I think so.

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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#2
May 31, 2013 at 12:31:29
Thanks but, cant install virtual machine as it doesn't work on windows home premium or xp for same reason.
Think Microsoft just want folks to pay thru the nose to upgrade all the time when all the software I need is 16 bit and has never been upgraded because all the new Microsoft software is full of faults and you cannot run industrial machinery with software that can become faulty. Looking like my only option will be to buy a crappy old laptop just for certain software.
Cheers anyway

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#3
May 31, 2013 at 12:53:57
Windows XP most certainly can run a virtual machine, I've done it on several XP computers. And why are you using home version if you are using it in an industrial environment?

What happens when you try to install virtual machine software, and what software are you using? Maybe we can help you sort this out.


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#4
May 31, 2013 at 13:02:48
Thanks but, cant install virtual machine as it doesn't work on windows home premium

Windows Virtual Machine does work on Windows Home premium. What you wont get is the XP mode that comes with premium versions. What you can do is install your own copy of Windows XP professional if you have one. In those circumstances you do need an activation key.

You could even install Windows 98 in a virtual machine and that will certainly run 16 bit software. What you wont get with Windows 98 is the integration features that come with Windows XP and you have to use Alt-Tab to switch between the VM and Windows 7.

http://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/down...

Stuart


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#5
May 31, 2013 at 13:07:01
I'm not using my laptop to program or run the equipment I am using it to train to program and run them so that I can progress and get a better job. I am an industrial electrician looking to get into the commissioning of the machines that I build and install as I'm getting a bit long in the tooth now and don't want to be on the tools for much longer. I am very interested in PLC and SCADA programming and have started to do online courses in order to better myself and hopefully move up the occupational (and salary) ladder, also it is much less physical.
I will try the virtual machine again over the weekend and let you know the outcome. I'm a bit rubbish when it comes to using computers and I am learning as I go. I have only used them for social networking and shopping really and I am what I suppose folks would call a newbie to this side of it. When my old computers failed or had problems I used to simply sell them and buy a new one, not very acceptable to my bank account to be honest.
Many thanks for your guidance and help, your very kind and it is very much appreciated.

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#6
May 31, 2013 at 13:12:03
As the program was originally designed for Windows 3.1 (what - it doesn't run on 64-bit Windows 7!), an install of 3.1 or 9x in a virtual machine is the obvious solution. VirtualBox is probably the best option; Windows 95/8 is available for next to nothing nowadays.

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#7
May 31, 2013 at 13:44:34
SheffieldSteel.

You say you have only used computers for social networking and a bit of shopping but consider yourself sufficiently knowledgeable to claim that all new Microsoft software full of faults. Bit of a contradiction there don't you think? Notwithstanding that I don't believe Microsoft ever made any software designed for running industrial machinery.

I think the first thing you should do is drag yourself out of the 1980s and into the 21st Century. I think you might be pleasantly surprised what you can do with 64 bits and a multi core processor.

If you are wanting to increase your employment prospects, 30 year old technology isn't going to help you much.

Stuart


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#8
May 31, 2013 at 15:52:41
Just for info, I am running some ancient 16 bit applications fine on my Windows 8 64bit using Dosbox (not to be confused with dropbox).

Always pop back and let us know the outcome - thanks


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#9
May 31, 2013 at 16:25:07
Stuart
You are correct in your assumption that Microsoft have not designed or produced software for the control of Industrial machinery, but, you seem to fail to notice that all computers run on Microsoft software, which, since, if I am correct in my memory and from information I have so far found about the subject, has been unreliable for some time. For that reason the control software for industrial machines has not been redesigned to keep up with Windows number two million and whatever. It has been left in 16 bit reliable base which has no bugs and can be relied upon for the control of extremely delicate, expensive and sometimes dangerous machinery. It seems the 30 year old technology has not let us down yet!
As for your idea that I am stuck in the 80's, you know nothing about me, I can install Nuclear Power-stations and much more complicated systems that maybe you would sit and stare at for years before understanding the complexity and have the ability to install and test. The fact is I am here for advice so that I can better my knowledge on these matters and therefore hopefully help others with the same problems as myself. I have set up forums for people to enjoy and share their pastimes and hobbies. I am not quite as stuck in the 80's as you seem to believe.
Anyway, back to the subject and hopefully the good folks out there that have had the decency to give hand and advice on this matter.
I have tried the Virtual Machine and still cannot get Syswin34 (which is one of the best 30 year old software tools still used today in modern technology) to work on it but I will persevere and have another look at it over the weekend when I have the time.
Thankyou for your time and advice and I will let you know how I get on.

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#10
May 31, 2013 at 17:22:31
Software for industrial control has not been updated for running under Windows because it is totally unsuited for this purpose. But it has nothing to do with reliability. A general purpose OS such as Windows (and Linux, Mac OS) has characteristics that make it inappropriate for such things as industrial control. For that you need a real time OS. And a real time OS has characteristics that make it inappropriate for general purposes.

The right tool for the job.


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#11
May 31, 2013 at 17:48:58
You might like to have a look at "VMware", I use it and it is extremely easy to use. I have an installation on my Home Premium that runs Windows 3.1, XP, Linux Mint 14 and Windows 98. Win 98 was the only installation I had trouble installing because of its reliance on DOS but once having created an ISO for the system installation was a breeze. Windows 3.1 I installed "for old times sake" You can get it here: https://my.vmware.com/web/vmware/do...

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#12
May 31, 2013 at 18:27:14
you seem to fail to notice that all computers run on Microsoft software

No they don't. Most do but there are a large number running in variations of Linux, Unix and a whole raft of other Operating systems. Just look at the list on the right, Linux, Max, Solaris and Open VMS. Wait till you get to the big mainframes, there are even more to chose from there

Microsoft is not the only game in town. Don't believe everything you read on the Internet. There is as much crap written about Microsoft as there is truth.

After installing the Virtual Machine, which Operating System did you install?

According to this syswin34 will run on Windows XP and Windows 7 but it only appears to be available from free download sites.

http://top.windows9download.net/lis...

The original publishers, Omron don't appear to support it any more. They have a whole range of software CX-xxxx and it appears to run on Windows.

http://industrial.omron.co.uk/en/pr...

Stuart


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#13
June 3, 2013 at 04:26:36
Thanks for your help and advice folks but I will have to give up until I get another job and therefore cash to upgrade my laptop.
I have tried DosBox but have no idea how to use DOS so thats not working out, also tried VMware/player and others like, but they require the back up disk for your computer and my laptop was bought second hand and I did not get any disks with it. Don't have XP so anything that requires that is out too. Will wait until I can afford to buy the upgrade/disk or whatever is required to upgrade my laptop and let you all know how I get on.
Everything so far requires XP or higher standard operating systems than I have on my laptop so none of the above worked out.
Thanks again, much appreciated and nice to know that there is some kind friendly and helpful folks out there.
Not given in, just a momentary relapse

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