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June 14, 2017 at 12:18:53
Specs: Windows 7, 2.4 GHz / 6 Gig
250 GB disc keeps coming up as almost full. I chop out what seems like a lot of stuff and in a week I am right back to "disc space critical." I keep suspecting there is something really huge and useless in there but don't know how to find it. So how (in Win 7) do I view all the files on the drive by size?

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#1
June 14, 2017 at 12:45:25
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There's no perfect way of getting the info you want but this can be a great help:
http://www.jam-software.com/treesiz...
(It's only about 5M)
You can access folders with a right click to "TreeSize Free" (context menu).
As always with freebies, make sure there or no pre-checked goodies, or use a custom install if available.

Is this your system drive?

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#2
June 14, 2017 at 13:33:41
There are several things you should do. Make sure you empty the recycle bin. Until it's emptied, the files in it still take up space. Temporarily disable System Restore so that all the outdated restore files are purged. Afterwards, re-enable it & manually create a new restore point. You can also lower the percentage so it doesn't use as much file space.

After doing the above & gaining some breathing room, download & run all the software mentioned in this thread:
https://www.computing.net/answers/w...

EDIT: make sure you have "show hidden files & folders" enabled, & you might want to disable "hide protected OS files". Also, the hibernation file can eat up a lot of space...if you have a desktop, make sure hibernation is set to Never.

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#3
June 14, 2017 at 13:37:29
Yes, it is my system drive. After the second time I got the message, I checked and there is no wiring for a second drive. As best I remember, the wiring for a second drive had been run to the CD / DVD drive. There was another set of wires which looked like they originally went to an older type CD / DVD drive.

The next option was to get a bigger hard drive and THAT could be traumatic!


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#4
June 14, 2017 at 13:45:59
Ran TreeSize and it says that out of 250 GB, 191.7 is in use by Windows with 142.8 in the Temp folder containing 6045 files. Have not looked in there yet but what on earth would take that much room?

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#5
June 14, 2017 at 13:54:20
That Temp folder has scads of cab-342_2 files at roughly 131 Meg each. Do I really need them? If they were just leftovers from patches, why doesn't the system delete them?

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#6
June 14, 2017 at 14:02:43
If you mean 142.8GB of temp files those numbers don't add up right. A 250GB hard drive actually will contain around 232GB. If you subtract 192GB you only have 40 GB remaining.

I would be surprised if you can't install an additional internal hard drive. Post the full model of your computer. You could also buy a USB external hard drive to store your personal files.

One thing to check is your download folder.

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When viewing any folder you can single click on the column header to sort by that value. Clicking once will sort by A first or largest file first. Clicking again will reverse the order.

The sort will be determined by whichever header you choose. So sorting by size will necessarily change the alphabetical order.

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#7
June 14, 2017 at 14:26:31
What it looks like is that out of that 232 GB that should be available, Windows is taking 191.7 GB and the sub folder Windows\Temp has 142.8 GB of what I am guessing are update installation file relics.

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#8
June 14, 2017 at 15:08:07
Reading some things lead me to look in the Log file where there were some monster CbsPersist_ and a date (starting with the year)then 5 more digits .TXT files

Example CbsPersist_20151124123435.txt. for something done for 11/24/2015. No idea what those last 5 digits are.

I chopped out all the ones from 2015 and gained 15 Gig. Restarted OK and machine is running fine now. Article was not well written but my understanding was that the only one you needed was the latest one for "troubleshooting."


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#9
June 14, 2017 at 15:47:30
Usually temporary files can be deleted (your risk) but txt files cannot be crucial to the system.

Do you use CCleaner which can safely remove a stack of junk?:
https://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/d...
The free one is fine. OK to use the Cleaner itself but if you want to be safe avoid the
registry cleaner part. Invalid registry entries don't take up much space or use resources.

Have you checked to see if your System Restore setting is set way too high? See how many
restore points you have - I would have thought 10 would be plenty for most people.

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#10
June 14, 2017 at 16:22:15
Got CCleaner (free version) and in 104 seconds, drive went from 15 Gb free to 215 Gb free...that is not a typo 215 Gb.!!!

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#11
June 14, 2017 at 16:28:59
Wow, better than I was expecting - glad to hear.

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#12
June 14, 2017 at 17:06:58
Since you're on Windows 7, you can also run Disk Cleanup. Make sure to run it in Administrator mode, so you can delete the outdated Windows patches. It'll also clean out Windows\Temp for you, if that's a concern.

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#13
June 14, 2017 at 19:17:41
I am glad to hear that you have managed to tame your drive to the extent that it is usable again.
If you decide on upgrading to a larger hard drive (or SSD drive) most manufactures offer free software that will clone your old drive to the new larger drive and expand the partition to take up the entire drive and make it usable again.

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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#14
June 15, 2017 at 02:04:17
Razor2.3: All I know about "administrator mode" is that it scares me that I will do something bad. Maybe I need to do some research but for now having recouped over 80% of my drive, I am fine.

Fingers: April 2014, week before XP lost security coverage, an old refurb crashed like another old refurb I had crashed. Word was that refurbs don't replace drive so crash likelihood is high, my exact experience. So I have been terrified. As you may have noticed above, this machine appears to have only 1 hard drive wiring set. Slot is there but spare wires are way different than SATA IDE. I have set up homemade external USB drives where you slip an internal drive into a case and plug that in. Would that work to get things to "clonability?"


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#15
June 15, 2017 at 03:02:56
You can try WinDirStat I used this recently to find the largest files on a customers drive. was able to identify the folders/files and delete them

https://windirstat.net/


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#16
June 15, 2017 at 09:25:06
oxcart: All I know about "administrator mode" is that it scares me that I will do something bad.
Administrator mode just means you can reach beyond your profile to the rest of the computer. Know when you ran CCleaner, the screen dimmed, and a Yes/No dialog box popped up? That was CCleaner asking for administrator mode. The big difference between how Disk Cleanup and CCleaner handles UAC is that Disk Cleanup waits for you to ask before going for elevation.

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#17
June 16, 2017 at 09:14:08
Run Directory Report as an Administrator
Select menu: Largest / Display Largest Files
This will display all your files in descending size order
http://www.file-utilities.com

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#18
June 20, 2017 at 02:12:09
Well, those Windows/Temp/cab_xxx files kept coming back and I was down to less than 10 Gb in a couple of days. Online I found the following procedure:
After establishing a Restore Point:
1. Run services.msc
2. Scroll down to and double click Windows Modules Installer
3. Under service status, click Stop.
4. In C:\Windows/Logs/CBS rename or move all the files. I just added an x at the end of each of about 7
5. In C:\Windows\Temp delete all "cab" files
6. Reboot
This morning, I still have 160 Gb free.
or: http://www.infoworld.com/article/31...

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#19
June 20, 2017 at 07:25:46
Interesting info. I've not run into this - seems strange that it only happens with some computers, which presumably is why MS haven't sorted it.

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