Solved Boot manager showing Windows XP and Windows Installation

March 30, 2015 at 13:05:59
Specs: Windows XP
I have this same issue
http://www.computing.net/answers/wi...

I did everything in that thread with no luck

This is my boot.ini

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect

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March 30, 2015 at 16:57:17
"Derek" Hard to say for sure whether or not it's mbr effect; not knowing if the boot-loader is the XP one or still running on the (failed) win-7 installation one?

juandiegovq

Have you gone through the command line approach as in the second link I posted in #19?

Dun a wee bit more digging/trawling and clearly the situation you have is not unique...

This link outlines how to use a win-7 cd to reset/restore the mbr to the XP (ntldr) version:

http://tinyurl.com/pnc6fbq

This info may be of interest (covers all the flavours of windows...) and to restore the XP boot-loader again it uses the bootcfg /rebuild approach.

https://kb.acronis.com/content/1507

This info - and possible solution:

Even if you delete or format the partition containing Windows 7, it can still appear as an operating system option when you start your computer. You can remove Windows 7 from the multiboot screen.
1. Open System Configuration by clicking the Start button Picture of the Start button, clicking Control Panel, clicking System and Security, clicking Administrative Tools, and then double-clicking System Configuration.? Administrator permission required If you're prompted for an administrator password or confirmation, type the password or provide confirmation.
2. Click the Boot tab, and then click the listing for ?Windows 7???.
3. Click Delete, click OK, and then click Restart.

is from a response here:

http://tinyurl.com/qcer3dn

The last response here:

http://tinyurl.com/ovsz6ml

outlines the steps required to remove all traces of win-7 - using StartUp Repair using XP Recovery.

And this chappie clearly had similar problems... and relates where he found the solution:

http://tinyurl.com/nnn5dzd



#1
March 30, 2015 at 13:12:49
"I have this same issue"
Same as who/what - have you a link to some other post please?

Your boot.ini file seems about normal to me. Are you having any problems?

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#2
March 30, 2015 at 13:17:01
Sorry, forgot to include the link (I just updated it)
http://www.computing.net/answers/wi...

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#3
March 30, 2015 at 13:22:52
The first boot.ini sample here seems to line up exactly with yours:
http://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/...

What problems are you having?

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#4
March 30, 2015 at 13:27:08
I have 2 instances in the boot manager

- Windows installation (I tried to install win7 but failed)
- Windows XP Professional

When I go to the boot.ini, it only shows Windows XP as default and won't matter what changes I make to that file, the boot manager will always show me that windows installation as default. I want to remove that one and make Windows XP default again


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#5
March 30, 2015 at 13:28:38
See my #3 again. Sorry, I goofed the link and have now put it right.

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#6
March 30, 2015 at 13:43:52
Your boot.ini file looks normal, not a dual boot - see my #3.

If you want it to do something special then see the table here:
http://best-windows.vlaurie.com/boo...
[Your current (normal) boot.ini is shown at the top].

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#7
March 30, 2015 at 13:45:10
Thanks.
I already know how to edit the file, mine is exactly the same as in the example in that link, still not working

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#8
March 30, 2015 at 13:53:20
Ok, so presumably you have XP at the moment and it is working fine with the current boot.ini - is that right?

You now want to install Win 7 (just seen your bracketed bit that arrived in #4).

All you should need to do is set the CD/DVD drive ahead of the C drive in BIOS (assuming C is your system drive). You then insert your Win 7 disk and restart your computer to do the install. Is that what you are doing?

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#9
March 30, 2015 at 13:57:00
Ok, I'll try to explain better:

1. I have Windows XP working fine
2. I tried to install win7 but it failed
3. In th boot.ini (inside XP) I only have Windows XP and set as default
4. When I boot my PC up it lists "Windows Installation" as default and "Earlier windows version" or something like that. When I enter "Earlier windows...." it enters Windows XP with no problems

I just want to remove that faulty win7 installation and leave XP as default

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#10
March 30, 2015 at 14:05:18
OK, so you want XP as before. I can't see any problem with the boot.ini file. It is quite normal for XP, as per the link in #3 and the one at the top of the table at #6, so I don't think that is your issue.

Sometimes computers can get stuck in a loop when changes are attempted. Try this:
Turn off computer, remove from power, remove battery if it is a laptop. Hold the power Off/On button down for at least 20 seconds to discharge the motherboard capacitors. Re- assemble and see if XP now starts.

If not let us have the exact error message about "earlier windows", as per item 4 in your #9.

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#11
March 30, 2015 at 14:26:28
Well I don't have any errors.

I'm just getting a Boot Manager that I'm not able to edit from Windows XP to remove a faulty Win7 installation and make Windows XP the default choice


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#12
March 30, 2015 at 14:54:01
OK, well maybe "errors" was a bad choice of word on my part but what I mean is this:
""Earlier windows version" or something like that"
I'm after what it says exactly, rather than "something like that".

I'm confused. It seems you want to edit boot.ini to remove a faulty Win 7 installation yet the boot.ini you showed in your original post is perfectly normal for XP (both lines). There is no reference to Win 7 there.

Did you try discharging the motherboard (#10)? It's a long shot but it sometimes works and is very easy to try.

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#13
March 30, 2015 at 14:58:00
Ok I got it, I have two options:

- Windows Setup
- Earlier Version of Windows

I'm confused too, it makes no sens why am I seeing those options and boot.ini only shows one option: WinXP
Yes, I already tried discharging the motherboard


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#14
March 30, 2015 at 14:59:59
If I read your situation correctly... You tried to setup a dual boot XP/win-7 and the win-7 side failed to succeed?

Even though the win-7 side didn't work, the actual setup process will have changed the boot-loader from XP (version) to win-7 (version)... So perhaps... try this/these routines:

http://tinyurl.com/o5nlggd

http://tinyurl.com/otccr95


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#15
March 30, 2015 at 15:13:11
Most likely mbr is your issue here rather than boot.ini.

Have you an XP disk? If so follow the procedure here:
http://pcsupport.about.com/od/fixth...

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#16
March 30, 2015 at 15:18:18
Both routines are for WinXP which I already tried. Both will open the boot.ini file that is perfectly fine.

To do this in W7, I need to use BCDEdit but that is not present in my current WinXP installation.


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#17
March 30, 2015 at 15:34:18
juandiegovq

Further to my #15:

If you haven't an XP disk then you should be able to fix mbr using a Live Linux CD:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread....

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#18
March 30, 2015 at 15:36:35
trvlr

Do you think this is a boot.ini thing then?

From what I can make of it the boot.ini originally posted looks perfectly normal for XP (see #3 & #6). For this reason I'm assuming mbr is the culprit.

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#19
March 30, 2015 at 15:39:25
Now I'm konphused../

Ok I got it, I have two options:

- Windows Setup
- Earlier Version of Windows

Where are you seeing this?

What did you do after the failed win-7 installation? As I said earlier, even though win-7 installation failed (for whatever reason) its boot loader is likely still the controlling factor - not the earlier XP one. That is the first change made to an existing installation by another version of windows going in - whichever version it may be.

Perhaps try one of these routines - presuming your boot-loader is now the XP version (again) though not sure how you would have gotten it back... Although once you resort to the windows CD boot process and enter Recovery Console... likely you will automatically revert to the XP boot-loader in the process. Not sure about that last part (automatically revert to XP boot-loader) but it seems logical...?

http://pcsupport.about.com/od/fixth...

http://www.wikihow.com/Fix-Boot.Ini

https://kb.wisc.edu/helpdesk/page.p... (The second section details more fully the RC approach)


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#20
March 30, 2015 at 15:54:47
juandiegovq
"Last known good configuration" is worth a shot (as per trvlr - last link #19).

trvlr
Any comments on my #18?
We overlapped.

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#21
March 30, 2015 at 16:03:31
I installed recovery console and then I did this
http://pcsupport.about.com/od/fixth...

Recovery console was added correctly to the boot menu, I was able to rebuild the boot but I'm still seeing "earlier verion of windows" and "windows setup"

So, right now I have 3 options in my boot menu

-Earlier Version of Windows (this launch WinXP)
- Windows Setup (this it the failed win7 installation
- Recovery Console WinXP

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#22
March 30, 2015 at 16:11:52
Recovery Console will have added a new line to boot.ini - see here how to remove it:
https://www.microsoft.com/resources...

On the main topic:-
Did you try fix mbr #15 or Last known good configuration?

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#23
March 30, 2015 at 16:26:50
Sorry I was overwhelmed by the tons of links :)
I'm trying that right now

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#24
March 30, 2015 at 16:41:35
In the past I've used EasyBCD to create a multi-boot environment. The tool can also be used to remove entries, although I have never used it to do this.

It can't hurt to give it a shot (Edit: making sure the correct entry is selected of course!) to see if it can sort the problem for you. Here's a link:

https://neosmart.net/wiki/easybcd/b...

Edit: I needed to check their offering was still free. It appears to still be free but now requires registration for personal use.

https://neosmart.net/EasyBCD/

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March 30, 2015 at 16:57:17
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"Derek" Hard to say for sure whether or not it's mbr effect; not knowing if the boot-loader is the XP one or still running on the (failed) win-7 installation one?

juandiegovq

Have you gone through the command line approach as in the second link I posted in #19?

Dun a wee bit more digging/trawling and clearly the situation you have is not unique...

This link outlines how to use a win-7 cd to reset/restore the mbr to the XP (ntldr) version:

http://tinyurl.com/pnc6fbq

This info may be of interest (covers all the flavours of windows...) and to restore the XP boot-loader again it uses the bootcfg /rebuild approach.

https://kb.acronis.com/content/1507

This info - and possible solution:

Even if you delete or format the partition containing Windows 7, it can still appear as an operating system option when you start your computer. You can remove Windows 7 from the multiboot screen.
1. Open System Configuration by clicking the Start button Picture of the Start button, clicking Control Panel, clicking System and Security, clicking Administrative Tools, and then double-clicking System Configuration.? Administrator permission required If you're prompted for an administrator password or confirmation, type the password or provide confirmation.
2. Click the Boot tab, and then click the listing for ?Windows 7???.
3. Click Delete, click OK, and then click Restart.

is from a response here:

http://tinyurl.com/qcer3dn

The last response here:

http://tinyurl.com/ovsz6ml

outlines the steps required to remove all traces of win-7 - using StartUp Repair using XP Recovery.

And this chappie clearly had similar problems... and relates where he found the solution:

http://tinyurl.com/nnn5dzd


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#26
March 30, 2015 at 16:59:04
I wondered about EasyBCD- but thought it was no longer a freebie... Possibly I is wrong there; and if so and it is free.. it may allow a way to resolve the current problem(s)...?

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#27
March 30, 2015 at 17:38:19
I thought they started charging for EasyBCD also trvlr. They must've at some point then decided to make it free with registration?

I see SnapFiles are hosting it and will probably let you download it without having to register:

http://www.snapfiles.com/get/easybc...

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#28
March 30, 2015 at 19:30:01
So latest thing I tried was the fixmbr, it ran with no errors but issue is still there. I will try the other solutions later on.

Thanks guys for all the help here


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#29
March 31, 2015 at 05:30:42
Some more light reading; although I suspect he last three references may be the most useful? But have a read of them all first as who knows what might be there that resolves it all for you. Also ensure that any tweaks you make (or attempt to make) are done with Admin privileges. Ensure that you have backed up anything critical in terms of registry etc.; and set a fresh Restore point before you “tweak”.

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum...

http://superuser.com/questions/4650...

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorial...

http://ask-leo.com/how_do_i_get_rid...

http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/2014...

You might also consider using the downloadable XP version of bcdedit

http://en.softonic.com/s/bcdedit/wi... as this may allow the necessary tweaks/cjanges..?

http://support.microsoft.com/en-us/... - from M$-land…

These two refer to a VB version (gui interface) of bcdedit. Worth a look-see at least?

http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/det...

http://download.cnet.com/Visual-BCD...

This link is specific to using bcd edit - and works with XP/win7/win8. There are other possibly useful references at the foot of the page.

http://tinyurl.com/oa3me94

My impression is that win-7 "hides" (buries) the actual file you need to tweak; and that tweaking" can only be done effectively with Admin privileges. Also most of the basic boot up tweaks are usually recommended via the My Computer/Properties Startup/Recovery routine - Advanced tab? Although unless you rewrite the mbr to XP you will still run on the Win-7 one; which is fine if the unwanted boot entries have gone... But I would be inclined to ensure I have rewritten the mbr to XP rather than leaving it on win-7.

Also an XP repair installation - an overwrote of the current installation) would do that rewrite of the mbr; and that Repair installation once completed may allow you to remove (successfully) the unwanted entries. This repair installation is NOT done via Recovery Console.

More details on this approach here (an excellent and well presented tutorial):

http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/X...


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#30
March 31, 2015 at 07:44:19
trvlr
First line in italics. Yes, that's a good point, thanks.

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#31
March 31, 2015 at 07:56:48
Fixboot command (recovery console) did the trick!!!
Thank you again guys!!

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#32
March 31, 2015 at 07:58:37
Brilliant - glad to hear it. Thanks for popping back to let us know.

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#33
March 31, 2015 at 09:31:18
wow... That was a long one and produced a lot of info for future use...
Good to hear it all works as desired. Tak for letting us know.

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